Did Jackson accuser lie about molestation?
By Alexandra Heilbron on July 10, 2009 | 160 Comments
Reports are surfacing on the web that Jordan Chandler, 29, who in 1993 claimed Michael Jackson sexually abused him, now admits he lied because his father, Evan, wanted money. Evan called police only after Jackson refused to pay up when Evan threatened to tell police the singer had molested his son. In spite of the fact that no evidence was uncovered during a police raid of Jackson’s Neverland Ranch, that Chandler’s mother stated she didn’t believe Jackson had ever touched her son, and that of the hundreds of children who visited Neverland Ranch and were befriended by Jackson, not one said that the singer had ever touched them inappropriately, Jackson’s advisors insisted on settling the suit out of court for $15,332,250.
Jackson protested, but his health had deteriorated to such a degree it was believed that he could not endure a lengthy trial. The stress of being suspected as a pedophile forced Jackson to cancel his tour as he became dependent on painkillers and lost an alarming amount of weight. Two years later Evan again sued Jackson because the singer told Diane Sawyer during a televised interview that he was not a pedophile, and Evan insisted that in doing so, Jackson was breaking the confidentiality agreement tied to the 1993 settlement. However, an arbitration panel found that Evan’s case lacked substance and ordered him to pay Jackson’s legal fees and costs. Jordan Chandler is reported to have said following Jackson’s death, “I never meant to lie and destroy Michael Jackson but my father made me tell the lies. Now I can’t tell Michael how much I’m sorry and if he will forgive me.” It’s unclear if the quote is truly from Chandler — it’s unlikely, because if he does admit to lying, he’ll lose the settlement money he received from Jackson. Watch the accompanying video and give us your thoughts below.
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I have always thought it was about money. People are greedy and will do anything to get it even if it means ruining someones life. There isn’t enough money in the world to make me go away if someone molests my child. I hope that the accuser and his family can live with what they did for the rest of their lives. Losers!
I never believed MJ was guilty…he grew up so fast and had to be an adult in a little boys body and mind…I think, as an artist, he was just always in touch with his inner child and it is proven that is how creativity flourishes! He said he loved children and seemed like such a gentle soul! Its awful that bastard couldn’t come forward before MJ died so he could rest in peace!
MJ was innocent. And it was things like this that killed this poor man. RIP MJ. You deserve it
It is a disgrace that Tribute would run this garbage and suggest it has any credibility!
Since when is a youtube video mashup considered evidence of anything? The audiotape of the “father” in the news report is the boy’s stepfather – not his father, who was the person who pursued the case.
Michael Jackson made some good records but he was one seriously screwed up individual.
I, also, believe that MJ was innocent. I too hope that the accuser can live with his guilt. What a horrible thing to do to such a great person. R.I.P Michael.
Diogenes
That is what celeberty news is mostly about, there is not much credibility a lot of the time. It is up to you to choose to belieave it or not. MJ may have been screwed up, but everyone has something screwy about them self as well. I don’t think MJ ever did anything bad to a child. He was one him self at heart, and it’s sad that he was ever accused of it.
If Chandler doesn’t come forward and tell the truth, Karma will come back to bite him in the butt. What goes around, comes around.
I never believed he was guilty. It was all about some gold digger seeing an opportunity to get someone else’s money. MJ was trying to help other kids have fun while trying to have the childhood himself that he never had. As far as believing Jordan, did we believe him in 1993 or do we believe him in 2009. Evan should know that what goes around, comes around. It also goes to show you that money doesn’t buy everything.
“Reports surfacing on the web” — oh, that’s conclusive. Why are these reports surfacing only now, and why are you so ready to believe them?
I honestly don’t know whether MJ was innocent or guilty, but it scares me how so many people are willing to excuse someone _just_ _because_ _he’s_ _famous_. Yes, that’s what you’re doing, don’t pretend otherwise. If Michael Jackson was just a teacher or an ordinary person and accused of pedophilia, the “public” (that’s you) would be calling for his head.
It was so obvious that this was all about money. How awful that Chandler’s father would go to this extreme to destroy Jackson’s life, to make him ill, coming up with this horrible lie. Obviously no other children/parents made this complaint, it was obvious that all Chandler’s father wanted was money ~ and he got it. So sad for Michael Jackson.
I never believed for a second that M.J did anything wrong…It was all about the money and those ppl. should be ashamed of themselves. They at some point will answer to a higher power for what they’ve done….
The truth will come out! It always does! Michael is innocent!
I’ve never thought MJ was a pedophile. He was too open about sharing his bed. He admitted it freely, like a child would. No pedophile would come out and tell people they had sleepovers with children.
Second, the man was a child himself. He had a childlike nature, which was attested to by many people that knew him, and claimed to have known him. He wasn’t calculating enough to be a pedophile.
MJ was a true Benjamin Button. When he was a child, he was forced to be an adult. Once he became an adult, he regressed back to childhood, and almost as a defence mechanism.
God rest your soul, MJ, that you don’t have to deal with any of this crap anymore.
I too always believed MJ was innocent from day one. I had read the same type of article years ago in the GQ magazine, where the writer had a hidden microphone and the step father admited that he told his step son to lie because they would get lots of money. I hope someone from GQ, reads this and repeats that story again in GQ. Imagine being accused and lied about when you are 100 innocent. I really wish that man would speak out now, even if his face is hidden and tell the truth that MJ never touched or molested him in any manor. It’s the right thing to do.
CM
Michael Jackson was an icon and one of the greatest person who lived on the face of the earth. He had a firm belief in the Lord Almighty and a true and honest love for the children. I never doubted his sincerity and didn’t believe all those children who accused him of sexually molesting them. To the parents and/or guardians of those children, may God forgive you for what you’ve done to this poor innocent man. Repent, it’s never too late!
I never once believed that Michael was guilty and not because he was an artist either. People will try to get monet anyway they an. It is never to late to come forward. I`m sure his Mother & his children would love for you to tell the truth Jordan. It is to bad this ever happened , that is one of the reasons he left his country. At least now maybe Michael can rest in peace . It`s to bad that people start showing their support after he`s gone. R.I.P. Michael God Bless you and your family.
ok,let’s ask?If a single 40 yr old teacher moved into your neighbourhood.turned his back yard into a playground and his house filled with toys. and then,began inviting local kids over for sleepovers ? i assure you you and the rest of your neighbourhood would be in an uproar.And,if the man were accussed,his house would most likely be vandalised, and,his person threatened if not,attacked.SO,why are we so ready to completely exonnnerate MJ ,just because he sang soongs that we liked in our teen/childhood years. come on ,people,,i don’t know if he was innocent or guilty ..and thats it i did not KNOW him…for all of you declatring his innocence,i suppose you think OJ is still searching for Nicole’s killer as he vowed.
Only God will know what to do with that selfish and greedy family.
If they lied, they should have to pay the money back, and be prosecuted for it. You should not be allowed to profit from a crime.
YET AGAIN, the greed of one tragically harms the life of another and puts a tarnish on THOSE KIDS OR ADULTS who are sexually abused/molested in real life. It makes it harder for investigators to believe them first and makes them feel victimized all over again. Due to this fathers insatiable greed and lies a music legend is now gone. What might have been had these allegations been proven false earlier. Maybe he would not have turned to the drugs. I know I would not be sleeping well, not eaten , knowing that people thought I was a pedofile. Maybe some good will come out of this,I hope so. That dad should be forced to pay ALL THE MONEY back to Jackson’s kids as they are the victims of this. Along with it a long jail sentence for blackmail.
I NEVER believed that Michael molested anyone, I was always on his side. It was always about the money. They need to be forced to return the money. I am hoping that Michael’s family will use the money to open up Neverland, kind of like Graceland. Put all of Michael’s memorabilia there so his fans can see it & enjoy him. That is also where he should be buried with an eternal flame. I loved him & the music he gave to us. RIP Michael you are a soul that forever light up this earth!!!
I always knew the truth would come out when ever MJ died. If there was any truth to the allegations then the father of the son would have wanted MJ behind bars. Instead, he wanted easy hard cold cash. I really feel that all the raids and stress put on MJ from this case lead him to an earlier death
We may never know what happened between Michael Jackson and this boy or other boys. There have been several children who have alleged that Michael was inappropriate towards them. Are they all liars? If parents ask for money or their behaviour is questionable does that mean that the child’s disclosure is false? I don’t think so. Officials need a lot of evidence to bring a case to trial. There are many cases where it is obvious the child was sexually assaulted but without the physical evidence it is difficult to prove. Children do not make very good witnesses but that does not mean they are liars.
I truly hope that now Michael Jackson has been laid to rest the truth and the evidence comes out so that these children can heal.
Barb: There haven’t been several children. There was the one in 1993, and then one more, who tried to get money, but didn’t get a cent because the courts found MJ innocent on all counts. Pedophiles keep videos, photos (the police seized tons of evidence from Neverland and his Las Vegas apartment and found nothing), and touch tons of little kids. Not one kid besides those two, whose parents wanted money first and only after they didn’t get it, involved the police, said MJ ever touched them inappropriately. The kids and their parents killed Michael Jackson. Imagine being found innocent and still many people look at you in disgust, when you’ve done nothing wrong. I can see why he was on painkillers. He had a painful childhood, and thanks to the bloodsuckers, a painful adulthood as well.
skeptic and nicole: I totally agree with you
Regarding that “OJ” comment by Nicole, OJ behaved liked a guilty man. They had proof that he hit Nicole in previous incidents. Nothing, ok, NOTHING was ever prooven in court about Michael touching or molesting kids. Would you testify in court if you were lying about being molested, I think not. The best that came come out of this is that Jordon Chandler comes out and tells the truth, why wouldn’t any decent human being want that for MJ and his family.
Its too bad that the world (excluding MJs fans, family and a few friends) never spoke up for him when this happened. As for the question if this were an ordinary person, how can one even compare? Michael Jackson invited thousands of underprivleged youth, boys & girls, out to Neverland without incident. How can we judge a man whose life we have not lived or in whose shoes we have not walked? All I know is that despite the horrible and unfounded accusations against him, Michael never lashed out with anger, only love and asking for understanding. Perhaps in my next life God will make me so perfect as to be able to judge others, but unforunately I am human and make mistakes. MJs biggest mistake was being so trusting..May God forgive those who stand in judgment of him.
Jordan Chandler should be subpoenaed to
court..the only way the truth will come out.
He has nothing to lose by being honest; his
father collected all the money, not him…
The Jackson family would be grateful…and may
pay him!!…
When the kid ends up in thearpy not able to deal with his life I hope his father thinks the money was worth it. Neil Young said it best “Teach your parents well. Their children’s hell is slowly going by.”
Donna
Can they give back a life.
I have always believed that MJ was innocent and would never ever hurt a child.
I always said that this kids father put him up to lying. I hope this awful bastard pays for what he did to MJ. The pain that he had to go through when they subjected him to the humililation you could see the pain in his face during his speech after. My heart went out to him. He was never the same after. All he ever wanted was to help people and especially children. You should be ashamed of yourselves for doing this to such a loving human being. GOD BLESS you Michael and your children…..may you RIP now. You are with the angels now. I love you!! RIP
If the accuser did that for money me him burn in hell with the rest of the family. MJ was my idol and I always belived in him that he was innocent. How can you do a thing like this remember you and your family have blood in your hands and you are responsible for his death.
if anyone ever touched my child, i would be ripping off his balls and shoving them down his throat. if he didn’t choke to death on them and i was feeling generous, i MIGHT call the police to arrest him, or just beat him to death but i would NEVER want a penny from him! it would just be another reminder of what he did.
i also believed that MJ was always innocent. Any person who truly thinks their child was molested, would never agreed to be “paid out”. doesnt matter what the sum! i would fight til the end if my child was truly molested! I hope that Evan guy rots !!!! RIP MJ!
I have watched Michael grow up, from his first time on stage until his death. I have awlays admired his talent, his incredible mind and zest for life. I have despaired at his treatments from others. I have sometimes felt that his choices were a little off. But I NEVER believed he could in any way abuse a child. My heart aches for him and his family. When the truth is fully revealed, it will help, but it is too late for Michael. Rest in peace, MJ. Watch over your children and know the world lives you and misses you.
Michael wanted us all to be like children…to be forgiving, kind, non-judgemental, to see the wonder of the world with accepting eyes. Listen to his music…I’m not really a fan of his, but gee, clearly he wanted to make the world a better/brighter place, just you and me. And the amount of money he left for charity? Adults always seem to screw things up in the name of greed – the root of all evil. Let’s hope that the father (Evan) saved enough for the amount it will cost for his son’s therapy over the next few years. Wonder if Evan is still involved with his son’s life.
I have watched Michael grow up, from his first time on stage until his death. I have awlays admired his talent, his incredible mind and zest for life. I have despaired at his treatments from others. I have sometimes felt that his choices were a little off. But I NEVER believed he could in any way abuse a child. My heart aches for him and his family. When the truth is fully revealed, it will help, but it is too late for Michael. Rest in peace, MJ. Watch over your children and know the world loves you and misses you.
Carole. I totally agree with you. Michael is innocent. Bastard of a father to do that to Michael Jackson. Eventually they will get their’s. We are not responsible for vindication, God is out vindicator.
God is our vindicator!!
molester or not, why did parents let their kids stay with a grown man? I would never let my daughter sleep at another house with a man.
Usually Nancy has between 2-3 posts on every topic on tribute.ca. She has widely made her opinion clear on the ‘fact’ that MJ is a pedophile, regardless of the blatant lack of evidence. She just ‘knows’.
Weird, isn’t it, that on a post where MJ is on his way to being vindicated, she, for once, has nothing to say.
Evan is going to face Karma for what he did to MJ. Nancy, you are going to face Karma for judging a man and proclaiming that he is a pedophile, even after his death.
Love ya Nance!
nicole. in response to your question…if there was a 40 year old with the mentality of michael, i dont think he would be a teacher or anyone else in authority. when you have the mind of a child, i dont think you grow up and say to yourself huh lets go to school for x number of years to become a teacher. you wouldnt think about things like that. so, i dont think its possible to have an “ordinary” person with the same mentality as michael.
m, unless the kid actually comes forward, nothing will happen. and he wont because he knows that he will lose his money. and to think that this was the reason he died seems a bit off, dont you think? its been like what, 16 years? dont you think that he would have kill himself years ago (if he did) if the reason he did it was based only on someone blaming him for being a child molester? we never know what goes through someones head before they end their life, im sure he had worse scars from the way his own father treated him, then he did from some money hungry family.
kathryn, tracy and Allison Denomme i really enjoyed and agreed with your posts. very well said.
if everyone tried to be as loving or caring as michael (may have appeared to be?) was, then we would have no reason for lawyers, police, judges etc. we would have no murderers, no one that abuses women and children…the list could go on. although i didnt pay much attention to his life, ive paid some attention now, in his passing. and ive concluded that yes, he was young at heart and in his mind…but it doesnt seem WRONG. he helped a lot of sick children, and he has done more for the world then about 99.9% of the rest of the celebs, or ordinary people. i feel bad that he had to go through this, but he KNOWS whether or not he was guilty so i dont think he would have let this all effect him enough to cause him to OD. i admire all of you that stood by him throughout everything. the more i hear and read, the more i see his innocence.
Well, let’s analyze this article a little, shall we?
First of all it says that any of the other children MJ befriended have never accused him of molestation or things of that nature, except Chandler. That’s one kid against I dunno how many 100’s. I mean, look at the odds, it’s clearly cause of the money, whether those statements from Chandler are real or written up by someone defending MJ.
Chandler’s father clearly had the balls to use his son as a scapegoat to earn money, and he succeeded, but Jackson never went to jail either. This is human nature people. We fail at being rational unless it affects us directly, which didn’t happen to Chandler’s father. It’s a good plan to get money, but what if the truth bites you back in the ass later on? Will the boy confess or will his father shut him up before doing so in a violent way? Interesting how the tides can turn.
Mandee, he didn’t “OD”. He got hooked on painkillers in 1993 to escape the pain he felt from so many people accusing him of something he thought was disgusting – of being a pedophile. He did get better – he went out of the country to rehab, got some rest, and got married to Lisa Marie who wholeheartedly supported him (and who advised him to settle the first one out of court because she saw how much damage it was doing to his health).
But 10 years later when another kid’s family thought they’d cash in and make the same accusation. Michael barely made it through it the second time – because this time he knew he had to go to trial, no matter what the cost to his health, he had to clear his name. Unfortunately, he became extremely frail, and as anyone who followed the trial knows, he was once carried in to court still wearing pyjama bottoms because he was so sick and frail that he couldn’t get out of bed by himself. After being declared innocent on every count, he left the country for several years to recuperate with his children. It was only this summer that he felt he was finally feeling well enough to return to performing, but obviously he was wrong. He was being given drugs to sleep, and it appears that someone gave him too much, or he took too many, and he died. It was an accidental death, not an overdose.
Detox: the father has already been violent to his son. According an August 19, 2006 new story on Foxnews.com, Jordan filed for a restraining order against his father, saying his father had hit him over the head from behind with a twelve and a half pound weight, sprayed him in the face with mace and tried to choke him.
Ethan: You’re right, I have widely made MY “opinion clear”…clear that I think he did it…I never said anything was “fact” or that I “know”. I never posted a comment on this article because I said what I had to say about it on the day that he died…and the other 50 articles on here about MJ. As for me facing “Karma” for judging him…whatever. I don’t believe in karma anyways but to each his own…no big deal, this is a gossip website…I guess we’ll all be facing our fair share of karma, won’t we Ethan? LMFAO!!
micheal was a growm up since he started singing never had the opportunity to be a child and have some fun. he loved children wanted to help them anyway he can.now we have chandler in the picture this person will never tell the truth would lose alot.if he lied he help micheal jackson spiral dowm. Micheal was in bad shape could never recover taking to many drugs.
Oh, and to Kim: Michael did “OD”, it has just been reported as an “accidental overdose”.
This guy should go to jail for lying , no one should suffer for incorrectly being accuse. Hope you go to hell man and suffer more than Michael, but now that he is gone, what els he want ?
Sorry Nancy, I meant he didn’t OD on purpose, in other words, he did not commit suicide. And hopefully it was an accidental OD, and not foul play as some family members are saying. In any case, 50 is too young to die, especially when you have three young children and since both of his parents are 30 years older than he is and still look in good health, he could very likely have had a very long life if he hadn’t gotten hooked on painkillers thanks to people accusing him of crimes so they could get their hands on his millions. That kid’s father threatened to take Michael’s career away from him and he succeeded, but not exactly in the way he’d hoped. He took away Michael’s health, which in turn led to Michael being incapable of performing, it wasn’t that his fans didn’t want to see him in concert, and that was clear the moment the new series of concerts were announced and the first show quickly sold out. At least he died knowing his fans still loved him and believed in him.
What people need to understand is, child molestation is a sickness and the person inflicted with this disease is ALWAYS unable to control themselves! EVEN jails say there is NO CURE!
If in fact Micheal did do any of what so many have said. HE would have molested ALL THE CHILDREN not picked just certain ones! There is no picking and choosing, with all the children that were from underprivledged homes and what not. There would have been MANY MANY young boys, NOT just one here or one there.
The ultimate performer has passed. I think in his passing, we should show him the respect, he so rightfully deserves.
Not ever did i think he was guilty.
People are greedy bastards and lots will do anything to get money, even if that means destroying another human being.
Now will all of you just give it up and let this man rest in peace and his family grief their loss over their loved one.
Shame on all of you that are negative towards a dead person!!!!!
Michael Jackson was always innocent.
In my opinion Evan Chandler is/was not happy within his ownself or with his life and more n likely was jealous of the little happiness he bestowed upon his child Jordan, who is now 26.
I totally agree that Evan and Jordan Chandler both need to make restitution to Michael Jackson’s estate.
Michael did not deserve to be put through what Mr. Evan and Mr. Jordan Chandler put him through, whatsoever.
I have always known that MJ could not have done this, he was too much of a pure gentle soul. No one can write such beautiful songs and love humanity and children so much, gave of himself to the degree he did, and be guilty of this act. I a so upset of what the did to MJ.But I know MJ is resting in Peace, you see he knew what the truth was and so he is at peace with himself, You see Christ was acused of a greater crime was not found with any fault, and yet they crucified him. Let the acusers come out and absolve themselves of this dastardly act, to save teir souls or be damned forever.
a video, Reports are surfacing on the web, it has to be true ! (note the sarcasam)
I haven’t seen this story on any major news or even celeb news sites so I don’t think it has a lot of credibility but if it has
I don’t pretend to know what happened but I always thought he did and this hasn’t changed my mind unless it at least gets on something like msn.com (if it has I haven’t seen it)
Basil Eastman I don’t see what religion has to do with this
I always Believed MJ was innocent. All these news media have no honor or integrity…they just show what will sell never stand for truth. Karma will come back to that Jordan and all the media people that TRIED to ruin his reputation. My prayers and condolences go to MJ and his family….RIP…Your message did not go on deaf ears…We will Heal the World…by changing the…Man in the Mirror
No good deed goes unpunished.
Rest in peace, Michael Jackson.
My own son is a victim of a male adults sexual
abuse, and it was easy to see, long before MJ trials and the tabloid headlines,that the alagations could never have been true. As the mother of a true victim,I can honestly say, Why now is the truth only coming out. Why. Mike might be alive now, if not for the tourture of unfair prosacution. The road that likely started him on the path of self distruction.
Poor, poor MJ. Perhaps now you may have your true justice. Honestly, true friends, will never believe nor read the new lies, still coming from tabloids and news around the world. For this is no fair way to lay a king to rest.
Where there is smoke there is fire, you hear about one case then another and how many did we not hear from. Fine MJ was talented singer/performer and did some good things, but anyone who’s been abused knows the things they say and do; i only hit you because you make me but i love you, and this is how i show my love but don’t tell anyone they wouldn’t understand, give you things then touch you. hand around kids so much unsupervised and sleep with them in your private bed, security cameras and alarms to you bedroom?? come on All Trademarks of a habitual pedophile. As for people say send him to jail sure money equals power and that can buy anything. and can intimidate adults let alone a kid. a king after all he was just a man not a god.
This is a very sad time for the world. We will not evolve until we show real Compassion.
I am so immpressed with the Jackson family and their dignity. Have you ever seen any other Celeb’s family have a Memorial for their loved one and inviting nearly 9000 fans as personal guests of the family.As for the charges against Micheal by Chandler, I was very sad to hear that the man who started this is not even his real father, I did not know that.If he was the boys father, he would do anything to protect his child. There will be no admissions of guilt from him. This boy is a victim and should not be judged.We are all heartbroken by the death of Micheal Jackon. We number in the millions. We owe it to Micheals Family to speak out. They so, deserve the closure. Let us be a part of the solution and not part of the problem. Let us start a petiton and get a million names to give the district attorney to question these people again. It would be a gift to the Jackson family. If I go on this site in the next few days and see 20 people in agreement, then I will set it up. It will really help in channeling your grief. We must help Chandler. Micheal would want us to.
Blessings all
Donna
nancy, thats exactly what i meant, so thanks. kim, it is possible that he committed suicide, no one is really going to know for sure because hes not around to tell anyone, nor did he leave a note. if it was an OD i would only think it was accidental if he took more then(than?) one medication without realizing that it could in fact be fatal. not everyone knows the dangers of mixing (for instance sleeping pills and cold medication). thats the only way i would see this as an accident. i wonder how it could be foul play? because im assuming if someone hands you a handful of pills and tells you to swallow them, youre probably smart enough to say no.
the more i read about mj the more i think that this really was a terrible loss. there are soo many people that respected, supported and loved this man. but, im just curious. what if the only reason there was only ever a few kids to come forward was because at that time he finally DECIDED to act on impulse? finally decided it was time to try to live out his fantasies? if you are a pedophile/child molester, you have to start with ONE kid right? so whos to say that he didnt START with the kids that came forward, and then quickly stop himself (by walking away from neverland and never going back) because he knew he couldnt control it anymore and he didnt want anyone else to be hurt? or to blame him or make him look like a terrible person? it would make him sick if he regretted what he did, and if he thought that he just ruined his entire life by acting out one of his sick fantasies… which would still explain why he was too sick to enter the courtroom etc. theres always going to be speculation now that hes gone and the only people that know for CERTAIN are the kids and mj.
also, i know that comment seems to contradict the original comment i made, but i was just thinking out loud. im still on the fence about this whole did he or didnt he molest these kids situation. on one hand, i can totally see his innocence, on the other, i can totally see his guilt. i have no idea what to believe, so im trying to keep an open mind. (just wanted to clear that up so no one can try to start anything)
I did think that it was true, and even during the trial I thought it was true, but since then I have thought long and hard and actually believe it was all bull! We know he had those kids in his bed he admitted that but none of them ever said he touched them inappropriately. Having been abused by his own father those are the kids he befriended, abused, ill and on drugs or on the verge those the kids he took under his wing, he championed their causes and I now believe that was all he did was befriend them and yes it was wrong to have them in his bed but he believed he was protecting them from the demons that were haunting them and his own demons.
I used to believe that he did what he was accused of doing. I now believe that he was just a 40 yr old guy who had been abused by his own father and the kids he befriended were also abused or kids who had no childhood due to working at a very young age as himself.
He should never have had them in his bed and by admitting that he cooked his own goose, but I no longer believe he touched any of those kids.
I also believe that he likely died a virgin, I don’t believe those children are his by blood. He was their dad due to the fact that Debbie Roe had married him so he didn’t have to adopt them later so as to expose himself to the world. He was a bit of a weird duck, I don’t really think he was gay, I just think do to whatever happened to him in his childhood he didn’t want that kind of relationship with anyone. None the less he was a good father to those children and he will be missed the rest of their lives. It seems clear to anyone watching that he undoubtedly loved those kids and the masks were to keep them from being seen by the paparrazzi and the world so they could have some semblance of a normal life.
If there was any truth to this that the kid’s father made him say that MJ molested him, then why didn’t he come forward when he was older and not in care of his father. If it was about the money, I’m sure MJ would have taken care of the boy after telling the truth and the father would have paid for what he was trying to do. I really don’t think this boy is telling the truth now or did then.
I believe we are all humans trying to do the best we can with what we have got. Just because someone writes their opinion here, doesnt mean it is fact. It means it is an opinion. The truth may not be something that anyone wants us to know right now. I believe it is certainly possible that Michael did touch the boy inappropriately, but I don’t feel I should judge him. But Michael did not seem to be in his right mind with the self mutalations and stuff like that. But again that doesnt prove anything. Whatever the truth is, whether he did it or not, is not something we should concern ourselves with right now. I know when someone dies, the feeling is to try to make them look as good as possible and be as respectful as possible to the deceased. All we can do is go on with our lives and do the best we can with them.
Enjoy his music and admire his skill.
But these things dont onerate him from possible errors of ways. They do show part of who he is and a reason to like him.
In this type of situation it can be difficult because you may have two different emotions toward him. It is easy to wipe them all away and ignore the bad when he is no longer here.
I cannot pick a side. I know both sides hold validity. He was a great singer and he possibly did something he shouldn’t have.
What I can say is I wish he rests in peace now. Obviously it had bothered him, by him taking all those painkillers. I pray there is an angel looking out for him. Stacey.
If Michael was prescribed painkillers, he was in physical pain. I’ve been prescibed narcotics for pain and I could easily see, how under the influence of severe pain and narcotics, it would be easy to accidentally overdose. I think this is a very unfortunate ending for a stressed out man who’d worked hard for years and healed enough to plan his next tour. I hope he was giddy with excitement, just like his fans were.
As to alleged bad acts, I have no idea. I’m also not going to let it bother me now because if I’d ever had the delight of meeting the man, if I were so rude to ask him about personal matters, wouldn’t he have every right to say to me “It’s none of your business?” I’ll respect that.
MJ SUCKS…. I THINK HE DID MOLEST THOSE CHILDREN FOOL!!
No one mentioned anything here about the fact that LaToya Jackson came forward and said that she could not stand by any longer and had to say something… comments please.
If MJ is innocent why did he pay $ to the father? Why not get his (MJ)lawyers to fight for him? I just don’t understand why you would pay someone. Can someone explain?
This is for “want to know”. LaToya married an abusive, controlling man named Jack Gordon in 1989. He forced her to pose for Playboy and kept her from her family. After Michael was accused, she made a statement saying she believed the rumours. She later retracted the statement, and said she was forced to say what she did under threat of violence from her then husband. She left him in 1996 after he tried to force her to become a stripper.
i dont know what you mean about latoya. he paid them because its easier to make it go away, would you want to stand trial for something you didnt do when you have the chance of losing way more then if you just paid them off?
Barb, it’s in the story above, but basically, his health, both physically and emotionally, due to the strain of being accused of such a horrible act when he was innocent, had deteriorated to the point where his girlfriend at the time, Lisa Marie Presley, as well as his family and the other people in his life (legal advisors, doctors, insurance company) didn’t think he would be able to get through the stress of a trial. Lisa Marie has said she was the one who begged him to settle it out of court so he could put it behind him. BTW, to the person who says he was a virgin, Lisa Marie says they had a normal sex life while they were married. She left him after two years of marriage because she couldn’t watch his destructive ways (i.e., taking/mixing prescription drugs to cope with life) and the kind of people who seemed drawn to him, whom he allowed in his life (doctors who were only too willing to give him whatever drugs he wanted).
Its just sad to see people suporting MJ only after he has passed away. where were all of his fans when he needed them the most. if people showed him some more support with his later albums, i think he might still have been alive! The only up side, he deosnt have to put up with anymore tabloids/people trying to exploit him. he will always be in our hearts and minds and his music will ALWAYS be on all my playlists! Rest In Peace Michael.
Ok, Let’s go back and re-read the article, It is not clear if this is the boy confessing. It is not clear this is coming from him at all, and what would he have to gain from this? If he’s proven to have lied, the money is to be paid back. Who has the money, the boy or his father? There is a possibility this boy definitely gained from the wealth, but who controlled the wealth, it might not have been him, and it could be possible there is no money, or minimal funds left (yes, people can make $15 million disappear pretty easy). Is he feeling guilty? So before we jump the gun, believe what you will about Micheal’s innocence or guilt, but honestly, do you think this is an honest to goodness confession?
I hope it is a real confession, then I’d know for sure.
frank, how did you know I was not an outspoken MJ supporter until now? His fans were ALL over him ALL the time! MJ fans rock.
barb: exactly. Why the pay offs? Innocent people do not cough up millions to keep other people from telling everyone what they did…
If Jordan was put up to it by his father (which I personally believed happened), it wasn’t Jordan’s fault at all…just want him to know I’m sure Michael had already forgiven him as Jordan was just an innocent child. Michael and Jordan were both just innocent victims… it’s the father that needs to ask for forgiveness for…since Michael’s not here, the father can still ask for it from his son…I feel sorry for that father who has to look at the man in the mirror everyday! Shameful!!
I will always love MJ’s music and I will always believe in is innocent. I hope that all his fans will support his children through this hard time. God bless all of MJ’s children and the fans that believed in him. I wished that he didn’t have to go through all this. He was finally trying to get back to what he loved best, “PERFORMING”. MJ was innocent of everything. I also feel that tabloids and any reporters only report the negative situation about celebrity because it sells stories.
God Rest In Peace Michael Jackson. I will always love your music.
Michael Jackson was and is innocent of all allegations made against him. I believed in him from the beginning. The media and the obsession for money led to MJ’s death. No wonder he took drugs to try to cope with such continuous destructive lies, spurred by lawsuit after lawsuit. I believe it was because he was black that some was out to take all he had. He was the greatest entertainer that ever lived. He will live on in our hearts, and he will no doubt live forever in eternal peace.
What a surprise, it was about money!!! In the United States of America, you say? How unlike them. When you pay up, no matter what “excuses” or “reasons” you give, you admit to fault. When you’re innocent, you stand staunchly and deny, deny, deny (look at GW Bush). This person had some strange effect on male children. Just look at Macauley Culkin & Alfonso Ribero. Hang around MJ, you become somewhat effeminent. Now why is that?
come on, Yawnie, billions of people in the U.S. and you hang this on them? Money is knwn to have been and can be the �root of all evil�� anywhere, it is not country defined.
further, I��ve �hung around�� men and not developed huge testosterone overload��
p.s. effeminate
I`ve said it all along that MJ did`nt molest anybody.. it was all to get money from him. Why only now all of this come up again! let MJ rest in peace.
lily, wouldnt you think that maybe the reason he paid up was to spare the child from going to trial and perhaps being completely humiliated once he couldnt keep up the lie and came out and admitted it in front of (im sure would be) millions of people? or maybe (if he is innocent) the reason behind him claiming mj molested him was because his own father was abusing him in some way and he was terrified of him so he just said what he was told in hopes of not getting hit again? i think there are soo many possibilities, so many “could haves” that speculation is pointless for the simple reason, none of us will EVER know what REALLY happened between mj and that kid. its like the witches that were burned at the stake, just because someone accused them of being a witch…is it right to accuse someone without the proper proof?
i think instead of that last accuse what i should have said was, is it right to ruin someones life and reputation without the proper proof? yes…i like this version better.
Rich people can cough up money to make someone or something go away. They can be innocent or guilty, either way they think that money can make everything better.
Sorry mandee but I really don’t buy that argument. Innocent people just don’t pay others to keep their mouths shut–innocent people want the truth blasted loud and clear. There is absolutely no reason an innocent person would pay millions ON CONDITION THE FACTS ARE NEVER MADE PUBLIC. If he had nothing to hide, he would’ve had nothing to pay. Plain and simple.
Money usually comes with strings attached and confidentiality works both ways. A confidentiality agreement is not proof of anything.
Whatever the truth is, it is too late to help Michael Jackson. If this man got his step-son to lie to obtain money from MJ, then he has to live with this for the rest of his life. Also, the child who is now an adult should come forward and tell the truth for his own peace of mind and because it’s the right thing to do. There isn’t any amount of money that would make me keep quiet if someone molested my child. The one thing that makes me believe Michael was a child molester is the fact there has been more than one family come forward with accusations. The whole truth will never be known, so let’s put this whole thing to rest, along with MJ and concentrate on real problems in the world( ie: hunger,war,terrorism).
Fraud is a crime. That man should return the money or face jail time.
I agree with you totally Ethan!! NANCY is always on these blogs and always NEGATIVE, ALWAYS, that’s why I stop reading most of the posts where she would have anything to say as it is always TOO MUCH AND WRONG!! I’ve had it with people like her who think that they know everything when in fact, they don’t know their butt from their elbow!! She thinks her opinion is THE right opinion everytime she posts one and I, like most of you as well, am sick of her!!
God bless Michael and hopefully now his family will be able to get some closure from this HORRIBLE lie that probably started his “pill popping” to begin with. It will also help his children to know as well, so in the future when they are older and read about it, they will know that their Dad was an innocent man who just LOVED children, as he never had a childhood, so when he had enough money, he finally enjoyed one with the loves of his lives, children (who he always helped anyway he could) and PLEASE do not answer by saying what I think you will, as he was NEVER found guilty of it, and there is an expression, INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!!
For those of you who ask why he did not go to court if he was innocent, read the other posts explaining why, as it is easy enough to understand why this fragile man would NOT want to go to court and embarrass himself and the young man when he knew the truth himself. He, again was being selfless!!
Rest on peace now Michael!!
To all the MJ guilty believers..chill 🙂
According to the accusations, I seriously doubt the alleged victims were emotionally scarred for life. They probably had nothing but fond memories.
actually Tina, mandee was totally right. Her reference to beating kids comes from a debate we’re having on another site, where some of us think people who hit their kids just don’t have the will/skills to resolve problems by talking them through. aprilshowers brought that heavyhanded comment on just like a spanking–harsh, impulsive and totally unfair.
aprilshowers was the inflammatory one, clearly picking a fight with nancy.
What come around goes around. I bet something will happen to The Chandler family because their greed will come back to haunt them.
JMHO…I do not believe MJ was capable/guilty of molesting or harming any child. Further, I agree it was a money issue. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, why oh why must it always get personal and ugly???
“I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.”
Voltaire
Rest in peace MJ. Enough.
I have always believed in Michael Jackson’s innocence. I have also always believed that this family was very untoward. In the end, they will get their just reward – which will not be very favourable. I also believe that most of the world is on the same page as I am. Michael Jackson will be loved forever by trillions – these aweful people – well I guess their mothers will love them anyways maybe. Elvis, The Beatles, Lady Diana & Michael Jackson – these are the Tops we will Remember Forever!
Deborah
Aprilshowers: “Nancy is always on these blogs”. THESE BLOGS? Tribute is the ONLY gossip website I go on, not that it’s any of your business.
“and always NEGATIVE, ALWAYS”. Yeah right!
“that’s why I stop reading most of the posts where she would have anything to say as it is always TOO MUCH AND WRONG!!” HA! My opinion is no more “WRONG” than yours!
“I’ve had it with people like her who think that they know everything when in fact, they don’t know their butt from their elbow!!” Why don’t you bring us some proof…go find a comment where I say that “I am right or I know everything”…as for me not knowing my butt from my elbow…of course I do! My elbow is a little more pointy, hahaha.
“I, like most of you as well, am sick of her!!” Oh, so 1 person (Ethan) makes a comment to me and you decide in your whacko mind that “most” are sick of me. I’m not here to be liked…especially not by the likes of YOU!!
“this HORRIBLE lie”. “They will know that their Dad was an innocent man who just LOVED children”. So….who is the one that thinks they “KNOW” everything? I didn’t realize YOU knew him personally! We’re not worthy of your presence.
(GAG!!)
People are stupid!
lily on July 13, 2009 6:37 AM
i really loved this comment, very well done. i wish i had of saw the reply to what i said, and its pretty clear nancy didnt see what i said either 🙁 they deleted it and i cant even repaste it. i wonder why they would have deleted MY comment but not aprils? heres was just as bad as mine.
this whole deleting stuff really takes away from the context of a lot of these posts….totally understandable if WAY WAY over the top but the usual jabs, come on…
btw I did post this kinda response on a few sites, but guess what??? it was deleted ha ha
p.s. agree with aprilshowers, you’re not a new poster, been on here in the past, knows the score, ditto…
No, I didn’t see any other comments than what are here now. My kids and I had a nice quiet weekend at the cottage (had to put some mileage on my new suv, hahaha). No tv, no video games, no computers…a very nice change. I suspected when I read lily’s comment that some things were deleted. So, thank you lily and mandee (LOL, I’m assuming what you said was good).
Actually…aprilshowers followed Ethan and YOU followed aprilshowers….so yes, followers NOT leaders. And you think that because I think of myself as a leader, that I am self-obsessed? Jeeze, you really should get a dictionary, Jo-Anne. Hahaha.
nancy, youre right what i said was good. i think its pretty rude of a new poster on here to think that her opinion matters more than yours or that yours could be conceived as wrong just because she disagrees with it. (when you didnt even comment! no less!) i had a pretty good post, and it had just the right level of rudeness towards april. i hate it when i word something so perfectly and then its deleted. i know we have had our share of fights etc, but youre still entitled to your own opinion. glad you had a good time, wish i could get away. still waiting on my check 🙁
Thanks, mandee. Although Jo-Anne thinks that my opinions are wrong as well (obvious from her comments) and she also thinks that her opinions matter more as well. It’s right there in black and white:
“p.s. agree with aprilshowers, you’re not a new poster, been on here in the past, knows the score, ditto…” What a hypocrite!
and you’re obviously not happy, Nance, unless you post one, two, three comments to me in desperate hopes to get any response from me…
tone it down…I always try to deliver…
screw evan chandler for literally ruining michael’s life
i think all women are more happy when they ar causing shit nancy lol. its very rare to find a woman that doesnt cause shit 😛 anyway, im going away for the night i hope you all have a great night. take care and be safe.
i tried to post that comment yesterday but it didnt post until now??
I know plenty of women who don’t cause it. Some do…some men do too. 😀
TOLD u all mj didnt do it all about the $$$ and $$$ i cant understand why he would lie about that its just not right and u no whats really F—ed up he now tells the truth when hes dead 🙁
Keysha: The article says “It’s unclear if the quote is truly from Chandler – it’s unlikely”. So, I guess it’s not “really F-ed up” at all because no one has told “the truth when hes dead”.
OMG, Nancy,
Why don’t you get a life!! For all of you haters out there, I really don’t care as I referred to Nancy (in the first paragraph)a.k.a. Miss “Know it All”. THe last 2 paragraphs were about the topic at hand, MICHAEL!! I’m NOT a follower BTW, as I would have written the exact same thing whether or not Ethan had or not, I just agreed with him, like a few people have with you and a few people have with me, so GET OVER YOUR HUGE EGO and stop being so DARN negative all the time!! You are a REAL downer!! I would highly suggest an anti depressant as I heard they help people that are deeply angered, like you and your blog at 7/26 at 1:26 p.m. is SO full of baloney it’s SICK!! Then I guess lily and mandee are followers too, what is SO wrong with that?? Not everyone is STRONG enough to be a leader (and not trying to be either!!) Obviously you did not read my blog, perhaps you thought you did, but all I said was every blog of yours I’ve ever read has been a negative one, I can’t help it if you are the one that has a very VOLATILE personality!!
The rest of it was MY thoughts of Michael’s life and his kids, which is what the blog is supposed to be about, NO? I made one comment on how every comment I’ve ever read of yours has been negative and SOME people get mad? And then they wonder why their posts were deleted (and not mine)? Hm……I wonder why folks? Nancy, you really should try not to use childish remarks like “GAG” as I thought only children used such words?? Perhaps you are a child, and pretending to be an adult, guess we’ll never know, but it’s pretty easy to tell when reading your posts!!
P.S. Thanks Jo-Anne, nice to know I’m NOT the only one who feels the same about Nancy, and you are right Jo-Anne (re: your comment about me being on this blog before), good memory!!
Let’s just leave Michael alone and let him rest in peace!!
AMEN!!
april, next time you talk about me in a “blog” “And then they wonder why their posts were deleted (and not mine)? Hm����I wonder why folks?” USE MY NAME. coward. and i have NEVER been a follower, sure nancy has accused me of it a few times (lol nancy) but, we have our disagreements, and we have our agreements as well. YOU and ethan are the ones that are on here trying to cause a fight on an article where every single one of the rest of us were acting mature and grown up and having a debate. you want to talk childish? hows this for maturity? the very first post any of us have EVER saw you make, was degrading and insulting towards one of the regulars on here. try to have some respect for the people that have been here since before you came, and perhaps no one would feel the need to be soo “angry” or “childish” back. when you act immature and start fights, you have to EXPECT there to be some response and some consequences. or are you just a spoiled little girl that perhaps IS one of the few that deserves a “spanking”?
oh, and fyi april, check out the joe jackson thinks michaels kids may become performers to know what im talking about. we are all very well aware of the fact that you dont read all the articles or else you would have made “blogs” with your “opinions” before.
Thank you again, mandee.
Aprilshowers: You are one to call me “Miss Know it All”….read your first comment on here. You’re going on like you know everything and saying that my opinion is “WRONG”. Where the hell do you get off? So go “get a life” yourself, Miss “Wishes She Knew it All”. LMAO. Btw, “a few people” have NOT agreed with you…….Jo-Wanne agreed with you and that’s it. I don’t have a “HUGE EGO” and I’m not “negative all the time” either. Seems to me that the only comments you read ARE the negative ones so, if my comments bother you so much b!tch, why don’t you just skip over them when you see my name on it instead of being a whiny c@*!, huh? 😛
Oh, Mandee: She needs more than a spanking! I’d wash her mouth out with soap!!
If she were a child, I would. If she’s an adult and in my face, she’d get a slap in the lips. 😀
lmao, i forgot about washing their mouths out with soap !!!!!!! yep, i agree. id do that too 😛 lol
“Nancy, this is what I like about debating with you, you don��t downplay, you state your opinion. I think you take a more mature approach than a lot of people do on Tribute.”
hahahahaha
Have you been drinking again, Jo-Wanne? Because that sure sounds exactly like the comment that Carol made to Lily on the article where “spanking” is being debated, LOL. Except, Carol meant it….you’re just being a b!tch.
Nancy,
Too funny, I had to check back JUST TO SEE IF YOU WOULD BE SO CHILDISH TO POST SOMETHING ELSE, but once was not enough for your BIG MOUTH, you had to go on and on and on…….Couldn’t think of it all in one post? I guess your brain doesn’t think that far ahead, LOL!!
If all you do is swear, YOUR MOUTH IS WORSE THAN A TRUCKDRIVERS, so why don’t you take your own advice and wash your own mouth out with soap!! BTW, I have been on this blog for ages, but under anonymous (as a lot of others do,) so I do know what you, mandee and Nancy have been posting all along, that’s why I wrote what I wrote about you as you are the most childish person I have ever encountered on a blog in my life!! I pity the people in your life, OMG, what they have to put up with!! At least I have more class than you in a HEARTBEAT!!
Hey Jo-Anne,
Funny girl, at least you know this creature as well as I do!!
ENOUGH SAID, you all are sickening!! I don’t blog with children, only adults!!
i find nancy coments staight forward.aprilshoqwers has made most childish coments here.an blames mandy an nancy by comenting should pitty yourself.dont need to attack me i dont care i read here for months an see coments to i know what i see.im belive michal jackson did this to childredn why he pays if he didnt?
you know, above poster, your words would carry more weight (maybe a pebble) if you took the time (30 seconds) to clean it up a bit (every single line…)
Aprilshowers: Thanks
the truth in the “truckdrivers” comment just keeps getting clearer…and clearer…ssme old same old
and even same old…
otherS
Wow, I cannot believe the stuff I’m reading here!! I’ve been reading these blogs for a long time and once in awhile I’ll post, but REALLY Nancy, you sure do like to cause a war don’t you? This girl “aprilshowers” obviously has you pegged as you did come back on the website and HAD to write something. You sound like a very angry and sad person and I feel sorry for you. The only one that seems to know what she is talking about is “aprilshowers”, “Jo-Anne”, “Ethan” (to name a few) at least they do not swear and talk childish (using “GAG” etc.) Really Nancy, if you want to be a better person than them (as you claim you are) do not respond or be so childish!!
april honey, youre no better than the rest of us, clearly. or else YOU wouldnt have made the comment : aprilshowers on July 16, 2009 1:47 AM. thats the pot calling the kettle black. i have had my fair share of fights with nancy, but when people come onto an article that she hasnt even commented on and try to cause a fight and she defends herself doug, why on earth would that make HER “childish” and “causing a war” ??? wouldnt that mean that APRIL was childish and the one trying to cause a war? i have no problems with you april, as you dont seem to be trying to fight with me, so sorry i was being soo rude, but i just find it odd ive never saw you post and now BAM lets make fun of nancy.
Exactly, mandee! And I’m not supposed to respond to any of it because it makes me “childish” in their eyes (like who actually gives a crap what THEY think anyways) meanwhile, they just keep going on and on and on. Aprilshowers comes on saying how childish I am for posting to her/him/it again, but yet, she/he/it keeps replying to me. Total hypocrite. I say if they don’t like my opinions ON THE TOPICS here, to hell with them, they can either choose to skip over the comment and ignore it or open their “BIG MOUTH” and be even more childish than they accuse me of. As for “Doug”, nice try! How many different names are you actually going to use here anyways?
No corner here either, Jo-WAnne. I accuse “Doug” of not being Doug because it is SO obvious that it is Aprilshowers using another name. How do I know? Because no one else calls these articles “blogs” except Aprilshowers…oh, and “Doug”, hahaha. Also, because “Doug” said the exact same thing Aprilshowers did.
whatd jo say? 🙁 wheres her comment?
Dear Mandee,
I’m confused??? Your post at 6:25 p.m. makes no sense?? First you are blaming me and accusing me of this and that and then you are say ” i have no problems with you april, as you dont seem to be trying to fight with me, so sorry i was being soo rude, but i just find it odd ive never saw you post and now BAM lets make fun of nancy.” First off, are you referring to me, as my name is not April, but I assume since it’s in my “aprilshowers” that you are? If so, I do not like to fight with anyone, but everytime I read Nancy’s stuff she’s always the same, negative, rude and calling me a word I will not even write down as it is SO disgusting (check her post on July 15, 2009 5:58 PM!!) Since you were agreeing with her, I addressed you to, but I have no problems in saying you and I are fine at least you are showing class and saying you do not want to be rude which is a lot more than Nancy is, she just keeps coming and coming like a RABID DOG!! And as I explained before I used to just go under “anonymous” so that is why I knew of her previous rantings etc. and even the two of you arguing, but you are a much better person that she is mandee!!
As for Doug, sorry to disappoint you NANCY, but I do NOT know this person and I hate to point it out to you, but a lot of people know that these are called blogs, anyone with a brain that is!! Also I only post late at night (or early in the a.m.), I guess it’s just bothering you that someone else agrees with me, Jo-Anne and Ethan, sorry but I DID NOT WRITE IT, so pick on someone else, REALLY, you just don’t give up do you!! A filthy mouth and a CLASSLESS person to boot!! WOW, is your family a UNlucky bunch to call you their ?????
I’ve had enough of your mouth and have MUCH better things to do than to respond to your GROSS speech and DISGUSTING vocabulary! I can’t believe YOU HAVE KIDS??? They should be taken away from you as you are a very caustic person and a HORRIBLE ROLE model for children. At least Michael Jackson didn’t speak like you do and was an angel to his children!! Just look at the way you speek, your diction is disgusting (and that is only one of many things I could BUT won’t point out that you seriously need help for)!! I won’t come down to your level, that’s for sure, but just remember one thing, KARMA is a funny thing and you are right in it’s path!!
you again? i see you strted with her first.if you dont like waht she say to you why make coment to her?now try to smoothe talk mandy so she take your side.only one who mention blog here is you sowhere your brain?if you have better to do than do it an keep quite no one kids should have take away.michal jackson spend no time for his kids he do to much drug takeing so how he be an angel?you talk karma better watch out youself.
They should make bobble-head dolls out of her and sell them online. All proceeds should go to Child Services.
aprilshowers, yes i WAS referring to you because in your name it says april and i didnt feel like typing the whole thing out.
yer i will NEVER be “smoothe talked” into taking ANYONES side. i have my own views and opinions on things, and i made it pretty clear i disagree with someone starting fights for no apparent reason, especially when they are new to the site and picking on the regulars.
demigod, who are we talking about? aprilshowers? lol…
Who do you think Mandee? 🙂 Nancypants!
That is right, she/he/it is the one who started this. And my family and kids are doing great, Aprilshowers. Thanks for your concern. LMAO! Now, if you have “had enough” of my mouth, then do something about it! BAHAHAHAHA!!
Yerraynus: Thanks…you have this one figured out. You too, Mandee.
Demigod: I bet you would be the #1 buyer of my “bobble-head dolls”. Such a fixation you have on me for some reason. I’m not into sexist p!gs though. 😉
aynus person – your stuff is painful to even read…best just to skip over…how do you expect anyone (except above who’s just happy to have any kinda “support”) to take what you say seriously? is it that difficult for you to take 30 seconds to write something as brief as you do with some (any?) sort of semblance of even barely passable English grammar?
if you are taking the time to post, why not post something that appears to show, at the very least, minimal effort at being readable?
yes, everyone makes mistakes, typos, etc. but this is so far beyond that…
Yea Jo.. but he/she/it does speak the same language as Nance – Gibberish.
The only one fixated with Nancy is Nancy. Everything about her is disposable.
BWAAAAAHAHA..and you’re the epitome of maturity!
You sure sound like you’re in a corner, and desperately calling for help.
You fight dirtier than anyone, so get over yourself!
Aprilshowers, just have to say, if you and Nance don’t see eye to eye, then that is fine. This is what it is about, we all have opinions and we share.
But I have to say, it is a pretty strong statement to say Nancy’s kids should be taken away from her just from the blogs you read here. And you know Nancy about as well as you know Michael Jackson. I just think that what people write here doesn’t mean they are good or bad parents. I don’t agree with everyone’s views on parenting (see the spanking discussion) but I know enough that what we say does not necessarily reflect who we are in the real world…
This is a blog, it is us saying what we feel with no restrictions, and no worry about what the opposition will say.
Mandee,
Make up your mind, one minute your saying your sorry for being so rude, and then you are on the attack again, even after I told you that I’m NOT knew to this website (blog) so that is why I know how Nancy is. WOW, obviously no one can win with either of you!!
Demigod,
LOL!!! Nice to know that you feel the same way that a few of us do about Nancy. What a nightmare, isn’t she? The bobblehead idea is great and giving the money to child services, right on!!
Hey Jo-Anne,
Is it just me or do you think that “Yerraynus on July 17, 2009 2:24 AM” is Nancy posing as an illiterate, (as she accused me of being Doug, NOT!!) to get more Brownie points for herself?? Espcially when she thanks the person. Funny thing is, she does not have to pose as one, because she is one, LOL!! Also, as you can see, I’m NOT the only one (and Doug) who calls this a blog, Carol did as well!! And even if I don’t agree with her, a mother should NOT curse, talk, and act the way she does, I’m allowed my opinion, right? Have a great weekend Jo-Anne and I’m sure we’ll talk again soon!!
If Tribute is thinking of getting rid of anyone, please note that there were NO swear words used by myself on this site, that medal for TRASH MOUTH goes to Nancy, she earned it all by herself (and her alter ego that pretends she can’t spell “Your Anus”, so instead, she posts as “Yerraynus”, as if we all did not catch that one, PLEASE, show some creativity, we all know how filthy your mouth is, so you gave that one away really easily!!)
P.S. Meant to say “not new” (not KNEW), oops, typo!!
demigod…agree, in particular key word “fixated” have echoed same sentiments all along….
aprilshowers…no need to explain to me re “blog” or anything that spews from t.t.’s lips…if you or I or almost anyone on this site wrote in the manner anyus did in favour of anyone save herself (again fixation reminder)…she’d be all over them again talking trash (above t.t. reference)…
so easy, and yes, repetitive, done before (ad nauseum) for her to label others with using multiple names on ALL posts which are unfavourable to her (yet again fixation, golly gee it’s unfathomable someone other than Jo-Anne doesn’t care for my posts – imagine that!) yet the fathomable reality is she can and most likely poses as the majority of posters rah-rahing her…
hey, if the shoe (hoof) fits?
First of all, Mandee and Carol both used the word “blog” because you did, Aprilshowers. So what if I thanked Yerraynus? I also thanked Mandee. I have also thanked lily and Carol and Tributegirl before too. I say please and thank you to many people throughout my daily routine off the internet, so what is your point?
“a mother should NOT curse, talk, and act the way she does,”
You know nothing about me AT ALL. Yet, you go on praising the “angel” of a parent, junkie-pill-popper Whacko Jacko. Let’s face it, you’re nothing but a mental patient who gets her/his/it’s hands on a computer everyday at 3 AM. Also, I never suggested that Tribute “get rid of” anyone, did I? If you were to actually GET OVER YOURSELVES Aprilshowers, Demigod and Jo-WAnne, and READ the comment I made, it specifically says,
“I think Tribute should post a comment telling everyone to shut the f@ck up…”
Keyword: EVERYONE (meaning all, and I’ll repeat ALL, myself included get that? “myself included”? comments personally attacking people for their opinions on the articles presented here).
Jo-WAnne: It doesn’t matter to me if people don’t “care for my posts” but, there is a BIG difference between not caring for ones posts and being a complete @$$ about it. A big difference.
‘a mother should NOT curse, talk, and act the way she does”
IT BEARS REPEATING…
um, remember that Little House on the Prairie comment that I think was yours, JA? Your 11:49 judgement is pretty old school and shallow, since swearing among adults, last time I checked, is totally a matter of personal choice. And btw there aren’t seperate rules for mothers and fathers, are there? Finally,to tag onto Nancy’s comment about people loving MJ as an angel of a parent, he dangled his own baby over a BALCONY… if you want to say ‘a parent should NOT insanely risk the life of a child the way HE does’ I won’t argue!
Maybe this is overkill but I gotta add, its pretty awful that people on this site are condemning the parenting skills of a total stranger, based on the language she uses on a website (ie nothing whatsoever to do with how she talks to her kids cause, of course, no one here has a flipping clue about that). Meanwhile, there are endless rants glorifying MJ who is on camera risking the life of his infant child… wtf?
and btw, some people think LMAO is cursing yet I’ve seen someone whose judging Nancy using this very same phrase…
carol 7:03 agree totally!
oklay, okay, lily, so MJ is not YOUR idea of a good father, nor Nancy My idea of a good mother…
something tells me you’ve run out of steam…and we’re left to choke on your rancid exhaust….
ok first of all aprilshowers, are you nuts? my LAST post was simply me explaining to you that yes when i said april, i WAS INDEED talking to YOU (because you ASKED me if i was talking to you, so i ANSWERED you) that was the only thing in my entire last post that was ABOUT YOU. so, how do i not make sense? also, how am i being rude? i told you i have no problems with you and i meant it. as for yeraynus, i actually think thats a guy that originally went by moondog, im sure its not nancy, and doug is just another poster. you are all friggen paranoid accusing everyone of using multiple names lol.
ok, now on the topic of kids come the hell on, dont you “ADULTS” think youre pushing things a little far? what you dont like something nancy says so BAM lets drag her kids into this? i thought that we all already drew the line at kids the last fight me and nancy had and decided they wouldnt be dragged into anything anymore because we all saw how defensive i got over my niece? have a little respect, you dont know what goes on in nancys house. aprilshowers, do you have kids? if you do, how would you feel if someone told you your kids should be taken away because you picked a fight with someone for no good reason? give your head a shake, its online who the hell REALLY cares whats being said to and about who on here? (waiting for someone to say that im contradicting myself because i said dont talk about someones kids like that BUT there should be a line when its about children and a few other things for the simple fact THEY arent the ones on here posting, are they?)
oh, and so everyone knows, im not going to fight with joanne about the kids comment because shes not the first one to bring it up, and because nancy also brought up her kids. although, i still think its uncool when youre a mother to drag someone elses kids into a fight.
choke…
Nancy on July 17, 2009 6:12 PM
What pomposity. Who is it you think you are here? You have ZERO credibility, and Tribute realizes it. And those who don’t will.
nancy, no need to thank me, id defend anyone if someone came in and started insulting someone that didnt even COMMENT before the insults began. (im sure youre well aware 😛 ) and hmm, never thought about it before, i guess you COULD be me…or i COULD be you…hehehehe
Mandee, you could never be her.
“ZERO credibility” for what, Demigod?
“Who is it you think you are here?” Well, this is just opinions on celebrity gossip (or it’s supposed to be anyways) but, some of you are taking it ALL way too seriously. I have to look at all this and laugh…SERIOUSLY! Because I’m reading a bunch of crap from people who are claiming that they are such “adults” and that I am so “childish” and when you go back and read it all, you just can’t believe it…it’s quite hilarious to read actually. I think (just my opinion though) that what Tribute realizes is that some people (and some have already commented on this site, that they normally do not comment but just read the comments) will not comment on these articles because they will be attacked for their opinions. And by them just reading the comments on Tribute, I’m sure they know exactly who their attackers will be.
Yes, Nancy they do know who their attackers will be…judging from a few who you and your cohorts “attacked” repeatedly on here for difference of opinion (from yours), they announced they wouldn’t be back in view of the “attacks”, and you all “triumphed” over their absence like a bunch of kids winning a three legged race….even went on about certain individuals jumping ship here long after they left with your petty references to being thrilled they were gone and taking pride that you drove them away…
childish? you bet?
hilarious? not a chance…