Terminator star busted for DUI
By Alexandra Heilbron on October 16, 2009 | 75 Comments
Thomas Dekker, 21, who played John Connor on the recently canceled Fox show Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, was arrested and booked for suspicion of DUI Wednesday night after hitting a bicyclist while driving in the San Fernando Valley outside Los Angeles. Dekker was also charged with causing bodily harm. His bail is set at $100,000. Dekker, who also played the role of Taylor Ambrose in the major motion picture My Sister’s Keeper opposite Cameron Diaz and Abigail Breslin, is shown at left with his Terminator co-star Lena Headey. Photo courtesy of FOX.
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Wow! Why? Sad.
Fricking people, I can’t be the only person that despises drunk drivers. I think the reins need to be tighter on people that drink and drive. When your drunk driving you may as well be playing Russian roulette with complete strangers.
Dirty-bag! Guess that cab is looking pretty cheap now.
I hope that he pays for all the medical bills and support for the person that he injured.
It is just despicable and apalling that people continue to drive under the influence without any thought to the possible outcome.
Now two families are suffering…the victim and family..and the perpetrator and his family.
When will people learn not to dui?!!!!
Can’t realy blame him, how would you feel knowing that you were born to lead the resistance, and that machines would rule the world. and your there last chance?
Signed Max powers
Although I don’t condone Drinking and Driving…EVER, your comments are friggin hilarious Max Powers…I am rolling out of my chair laughing.
Say it with me now… “for suspicion of DUI”. Man you guys are quick to point the finger. So he hit a bicyclist, mistakes happen, that’s what insurance is for. Until he’s actually convicted of drunk driving I’d keep your comments and opinions subjective, unless of course you like being prejudice.
Just my two cents.
what damm it they cancelled the show damm them… Oh and what a tool throw him in jail!
What do you guys expect, drinks are served to people who drove to the bar, what do you think will happen? lol
What do you think will happen when you sell guns at walmart or gun shops to anyone? Shootings happen, you humans are very strange.
Well, to me, when someone buys a gun at Walmart or wherever (and they don’t sell to just “anyone”. You have to have a FAC), they are buying it to use for hunting, which is legal. The majority of people who shoot other people, use guns which are stolen from law abiding citizens who hunt. Also, it is not against the law to drive your car to a bar or licensed restaurant and have a drink. It’s not the bar owner/bartenders fault. It’s not the car company’s fault. It’s not Walmart’s fault and it’s not the gun company’s fault. It is the fault of the person who abuses it. Put the blame where it belongs. When you burn your hand on the burner of the stove, do you blame the appliance company? Is it their fault that someone is stupid enough to stick their bare hand on a red hot burner? Hey, maybe they should quit making and selling stoves…
“It��s not Walmart��s fault and it��s not the gun company��s fault.”
I haven’t come across Anyone who says this: Any store that sells it Should be held accountable. I feel and it is my opinion that a generalized store should NOT sell guns. A gun is a weapon and Not general merchandise, that only belongs in stores. My point is up here in Canada you Cannot buy guns in Stores at all. Only special gun stores sell them. My point is: as I’ve said above is guns have to been taken out of stores and then Every gun Registered. Then people will Know who owns it.
I’ll comment when I know if he really was drinking while he was driving. Up here they have a breathalizer test and know almost immediately if the person went overboard on their liquor.
Walmart does sell guns, pellet guns, bb guns, paint guns, etc, they also sell knives. So do most “general” stores. Even if they didn’t, a person could go in and buy a metal nail file and use it as a weapon, who is responsible then? Walmart? The company that made the nail file? Or perhaps the person who purposely used it as a weapon? I personally prefer it when people take responsibility for their OWN actions. Blaming the store or the maker of the product is like blaming McDonalds when a person gains weight. McDonalds doesn’t force people to gorge themselves on garbage, people decide to do that for themselves.
The problem with taking guns out of stores “and then Every gun Registered” is our very long undefended border with the U.S. A lot of bad stuff crosses that border, in both directions, every day.
Nancy, we got a pellet gun at Walmart without an FAC, we use it for target shooting only, tin can’s, etc. It’s a LOT of fun!
I’m thinking if they arrested and booked him for “suspicion” of DUI, they must have been pretty sure, and I’ll bet they did do a breathalyzer test on him, just they have to say “alleged” or “suspicion” because it has to be proven in court, or they could be sued.
WOW…lots of opinions here…so now for my thoughts…
t33to – I would say that if he were arrested, chances are good he was DUI. They would check for that and not just put him in jail without the breathilizer (ok, no critics about my spelling). And not always, but generally speaking, the media does hold a lot of truth to their stories, they just beef them up with a lot of exageration. But you are correct, it does say “suspicion”, so time will tell.
Rita – I am against the Gun Registration. It has cost more than it is worth. The majority of guns used to commit crimes are not registered. And registering a gun does not deter a pycho from using it if he wanted to. I don’t agree that a bar should be held accountable for serving someone drinks if that person should go out and have an accident, and I think it is ludicrous that a homeowner can have a houseparty and be sued if a guest leaves the party drunk and hurts/kills somebody. People need to take responsibility.
I come from a family who worked their land. My father, who is getting up in age, still hunts. He has been a gun owner for the majority of his life. He had always kept his guns maintained in a safe manner as he had us children (and then the grandchildren) around and he would not put us in danger. He does not have a violent bone in his body. Should he register his gun? I don’t think so. It does not reduce crime because the criminal is not generally concerned with the law…if they were then they wouldn’t be criminals.
Tributegirl: Nope, you don’t need an FAC for a pellet gun, an air gun, a paintball gun. But, for a gun that was made with “killing” in mind, yes.
Rita: As the saying goes, ‘Guns don’t kill people. PEOPLE kill people’. As I said above, put the blame where it belongs. Is it your fault if your child went out and killed someone today? I mean, YOU made him/her so, it has to be YOUR fault, right? And for the record, your comment “I haven’t come across Anyone who says this” is totally absurd! Many, many, many people have said it! The gun registration is just another government money grab. The only ones who pay for it are the good law abiding gun owners such as those who hunt…like Carol’s dad and my dad too. My dad has no criminal history either but has to pay to register all of his rifles which he uses ONLY FOR HUNTING. I think that as long as the stores are following the laws and making sure that the buyers have an FAC, then there should be no problem with them selling them because deep down, I think most people KNOW that these criminals are not walking into Walmart, showing their FAC (which they cannot get if they have a criminal history of violence btw), filling out all the paperwork and then going and murdering someone with that gun. Instead, they are getting guns which have been stolen or imported (as Tributegirl said), taken from the law abiding gun owners who DID register them and pay for such registration. I really can’t stand people who believe that because there is one bad apple in the bushel, that the whole bushel has to be thrown away! The rest are fine…just get rid of the bad one! Common sense really. 😛
as long as you are happy that 1 out of say 1 million who drive or who buys guns ends up killing innocent people(s) then keep having it the way you have it. I prefer 0, all it takes is a few to ruin it for everyone and it has happen and will continue to happen.
It doesn’t matter who is to blame, the end result is loss of life. Alcohol, Cigarettes, Guns, all designed to end life, a little won’t hurt right? WRONG. Stop being naive, these are not natural inventions invented by mother earth, they are invented by evil humans.
they should ban cars cuz theres to many car accidents, people should live on the street cuz houses could burn, there should be no air planes cuz they crash, no popcorn cuz you choke, on an on, zero is just that zero an mother earth didnt invent them
cars function is to transport
houses function is to provide a dwelling
air planes function is provide faster transport
whereas function of alcohol is to create inhibition/loss of control/death
function of cigarettes is to create financial gain for corporations/death/tax on health care
function of guns is to end life.
I see no point in your argument.
Are there any positives in Alcohol/Cigarettes/Guns? Other than the financial gain of companies and to appease rich bored people?
fyi they should ban classical cars as the function is to destroy your precious ozone, increasing loss of life for not just humans but other inhabitants of your planet.
so you are partially correct in your spin.
they should ban stoopid people like annunaki
nice moondog, sorry your iq fits your name if you cannot come up with a better response.
ditto
I agree Shauna and moondog. The list is endless.
Shauna: Hahaha, love the popcorn comment!
annunaki: classical cars are more sturdy and reliable and because of such, save more lives than the tin cans they sell as cars nowadays! As for your comment “cars function is to transport”….then what is the function of their speedometer reaching (sometimes in excess) of 240 kms/hr?….to kill, perhaps? Horse and buggie could still be used to “transport”, could they not? Btw, alcohol was not “designed to end life”…it was and still is, actually used to clean wounds…LMFAO! You said “Are there any positives in Alcohol/Cigarettes/Guns?” Well, guns are used to kill animals for food – IN A QUICK WAY rather than using a knife or something else which would be slower and more inhumane; guns also are used as a tool of authority by the police and military…amazing what you can get someone to do or stop doing when there is a gun pointed at them, LOL. Cigarettes (and alcohol) for some, are a form of relaxation…they have calmed many a nerve! As for alcohol, well, I’m sure I’ll probably catch hell for this comment but I can’t resist! There is one BIG positive of guns and alcohol…..it’s called a TREATY and without the booze and the rifles, there wouldn’t be one! And life as we know it, well, you know…
Nancy, excellent work. I do agree and I never would have thought of it in the reverse like that. Everything depends on whose hand it is in, and I, nor anyone else, can be 100% responsible of knowing if the person who buys cigarettes it burning their kids with them…I am not to be responsible for selling them…ownership comes from the one doing the deed.
I totally agree with both of you, I feel people should be responsible for their OWN actions, not for the actions of others.
Unless you guys were there, you have no right to judge his actions…for all we know that bicyclist cut in front of him because he knew who he was and wanted to cash in or goodness gracious it was just an accident.
Isn’t America where people are innocent until proven guilty but here some of you guys are jumping the gun and convicting him of his DUI when it was only a suspicion at this point. If he had a drink or two but his alchohol level is below the legal limit…the officer may smell booze on him and booked him because he didn’t have a breathlizer on him.
If drinking and driving was so bad…you guys wouldn’t have a legal limit…it would be a nationwide zero tolerance.
Oh and just to note…i never drink and drive but I do not like telling people what they can or can’t do or push my moral values on someone else so long as they are doing it within the legal system.
Rita Oct. 17 2009 5:43 AM:
“My point is: As I’ve said above is guns have to be taken out of stores and then Every gun Registered. Then people will Know who owns it.”
The problem really isn’t with knowing who owns the firearms is it, Rita? Because the criminals are called criminals for a reason, right? Because they don’t obey the laws, right? Laws like….uh…..hmmmmmmmmmmmmm….oh! Registering guns! They are criminals. They can’t get an FAC. Which means they can’t legally go into ANY store, even “special gun stores”, and buy a firearm. So if they don’t “legally” own one, they can’t “legally” register one. So they get one illegally…stolen (or purchased stolen) from good law abiding citizens who did register them. Don’t forget, there are alot of people who don’t even use guns but still own them. Many have inherited them from their relatives, but yet, they still have to pay for registration under the gun laws. All I see with this gun registration, is the good people paying, yet again. The same with their “BIG idea” of putting mandatory child car seat restraints in every vehicle….some people don’t have/want kids. Some peoples children are grown up already. Why should they have to pay extra when they buy a vehicle? Another “BIG idea”, was the suggestion to put breathalyzers in EVERY vehicle. Why? Why should I, along with many others, have to pay extra for a vehicle equipped with a breathalyzer? I have zero tolerance for alcohol and driving. And we all know, that some dummy will still drive with their small child on their lap anyways and, drunk drivers will have a friend or passerby or some other way of getting past this ‘state-of-the-art’ factory installed breathalyzer. So really, who are the majority who keep on paying in the end? The innocent, that’s who.
A cop may have not had a breathalyzer on them? I highly doubt that, I don’t think they would have arrested and booked him without being sure that he was DUI, because they could face a major lawsuit if they were wrong.
“Stop being naive, these are not natural inventions invented by mother earth, they are invented by evil humans.”
Ok, what about rocks? Rocks were “invented by mother earth”, people can kill/injure other people with rocks. What about water? Also “invented by mother earth”, and people can drown other people.
Nancy, you’re right, it’s always the innocent who pay, in every way possible, because it wouldn’t be right to punish the bad guys, might hurt their self esteem or some crap like that.
Tributegirl, I would argue it is a lot tougher for sick/ill person to gather a napsack full of rocks and to go into a school/bank/public place to throw at some folks with the intent of killing versus a few semi automatics/guns would you not agree? The kill ratio would be quite higher with guns vs rocks no? The design of the gun is to end life quickly and in large numbers. With the advancement of agriculture, and farms do we really need guns to hunt? Other for the sheer joy to ease boredom by taking another animal/human life?
If you review history and statistics, guns and alcohol have killed more people then they have saved lives.
If you are comfortable with the few who can access items that can greatly increase the death ratio of someone you know, then that is something you will have to live with. I hope there are others out there who would prefer a better world, where these items are exposed for their true value in this world.
It is no wonder, advanced beings from other worlds are not ready to welcome you into the galactic UN of the Milky Way. Pleasure at the cost of others/destruction for humans is greater than the greater higher moral good.
Human Tracking, Drugs, Weapon sales to conflict regions, Exploitation, and the gathering of items/money is the humans ultimate downfall. There is good amongst you but the bad is greater than the good at this time.
What they say is true, money is the root of all evil, right? Vegas anyone? Lots of drugs, gambling, sex, disease, death, murder, suicide, all because the few want to make $$$ at the cost of the populations weakness, artificial PLEASURE.
Hopefully one day space exploration and true inner happiness will be found within the human race.
oh my.
“oh my.” for sure!!!!! It just goes to prove that it is a very good thing that there are some who cannot get their hands on a gun!
Anyways, I’m off searching for rocks to fill my napsack (sic), then it’s off to the bank! LMFAO!!!
PLEASE SPARE US ANNUNAKI… MONEY IS NOT THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL!!!!MAN BEHIND THE MONEY IS!!!YOU MUST BE ON SOME SUPER KICK-ASS DRUG,YA KNOW THE ONE MOTHER EARTH SUPPLIES, OH-NATURAL.TRIP ON BRO,CATCH YA ON THE DARK SIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s very simple.
Alcohol, when taken orally, slows down thought processes and coordination, release in self inhibitions, great for pleasure releasing chemical reactions in the brain/body, introverts to act as extroverts in social functions, nerds can be cool like the jocks and jocks be be bigger jocks when inhibited. Can lead to fatalities/regrets if mixed with handling of vehicles and/or promiscuity with willing or non willing sexual partner. Benefits to society=money/economics for govt/companies/individuals that manufacture said product.
Cigarettes, can cause house fires, terminal illnesses such as cancer to both the smoker and non smoker through second hand smoke. Burden on health-care workers/system. Benefits to society=money/economics for govt/companies that manufacture said product.
Guns, can cause fatalities by purpose or by accident. Benefits to society=money/economics for govt/companies that manufacture said product. Psychological power, said individual has a gun so his self worth increases and his self security increases. Note: in some regions of the world getting a gun is as easy as buying alcohol or cigarettes. Any idiot can smoke, drink or have a gun, my point is that is the problem.
Instead of creating band aid solutions with regulations and laws that will help 90% of the time, just get rid of it. 10% is too big of a number when you factor in a population of over 6.8 billion souls. Problem with getting rid of it, Govt/Companies lose Trillions of dollars in the process, affecting the bottom line of countless execs/shareholders/politicians and anyone looking to profit from death.
Although getting rid of said items is the best for planet Earth and all inhabitants, it is not possible due to the Govt/Companies dependencies on said income from population.
So then we should get rid of knives too? They kill. And vehicles, they kill. How about factories that employ thousands? They have toxic emmissions that cause cancer and other terrible things, how about we get rid of all factories? The “Govt/Companies dependencies” are not the only things benefiting, we all are.
Also, I thought the issue was who is responsible, the person committing the crime, or the maker of the weapon? That’s why I mentioned rocks (didn’t necessarily mean a “napsack” full of rocks to throw, could take a big one & bash someone’s head in), and water. If someone does that, who would you blame then, the person committing the crime, or mother nature for creating the rock?
And if someone shoots me, I’m sorry, but I will not be angry at the makers of the gun, or the place that sold the gun, I will be angry at the person who USED the gun.
It’s very simple.
I believe you will be angry at the person who used the gun to shoot you, the light penalty after the crime/fact, the ease in getting the gun and the high probability it will happen again to someone you may or may not know.
Solution(s): a) remove ability to acquire gun b) tougher laws and regulations c) execute all criminals d) do nothing
I am sure you have already decided which one you like best, and that is why nothing will ever change and you will find sad stories every morning online/newspaper awaiting for you to comment about online.
The same solution(s) and argument can be applied to cigarettes and alcohol. The only reason why these toxic products was ever legalized is because of the trillions of dollars govts receive from the makers of the evil products. Don’t be surprised if other drugs and forms of artificial pleasure will be legalized soon to balance the economy. Small packets of cocaine can be sold at your local variety store or can it be cannabis, maybe not to far off when you can get a gun also when you buy a burger combo. But hey it is the person’s actions fault and nobody else, it is not the product not the govt, it always is the person who committed the act.
Govt are elected to protect society and ensure the population thrives and flourishes under it’s leadership not to be taken advantage of with laws and regulations that is self serving.
If they “banned” everything that some idiot took upon himself/herself to use as a weapon to hurt others, there would be nothing left. I mean, people have been smashed over the head with lamps (we better ban lamps); tied to bedposts and raped (get rid of beds); been locked in bedrooms (ban doors); thrown through windows (yep, get rid of those too); stabbed with pens/pencils (oh no! we’ll never be able to write again!).
The government will NEVER EVER EVER EVER ban all the stuff you mention. As you said, it generates way too much money and employs hundreds of millions. There is no question that these products (as with ANY product) are about money but, they will never be banned and it is not right that EVERYONE has to pay because someone abused the system. What is next? Someone frauds welfare, so they cut all their clients off? One guy cheats on his taxes, so they better fine us all because surely he’s not the only one who did it! Believe me when I say that you all should be thankful that the government does NOT ban even ONE of the products annunaki mentioned (guns, alcohol, tobacco). Jeeze, our taxes would skyrocket! We would never be able to afford anything because there is no way that the government would take such a loss…not to mention all the people it would put out of work…hundreds of millions of people. To even suggest the government do such a thing is absolutely ludacris! All because someone abused these products, and if they were gone what, the criminals are just going to stop abusing? Alcoholics are just going to stop drinking? Smokers are going to quit? Like hell they will! If you wanted to kill someone, you would do it, with ANY weapon. If a gun was not available, you would use a knife; poison; perhaps a lamp smashed over the head.
Where the heck do you come up with your ideas, annunaki? LOL.
What about the Craigslist murderer? He used a computer and the internet to find his victims, maybe we should ban all computers? Just think, annunaki has been using this potentially lethal weapon! It would be insane to ban something like that, because what of the millions of good people who use it the way it was intended? Why should they be punished because there are a few a$$holes out there who think up bad ways of using something good?
“you humans are very strange.”
“they are invented by evil humans.”
“your precious ozone”
“It is no wonder, advanced beings from other worlds are not ready to welcome you into the galactic UN of the Milky Way. Pleasure at the cost of others/destruction for humans is greater than the greater higher moral good.”
“Hopefully one day space exploration and true inner happiness will be found within the human race.”
I think it’s these weird comments above that have me mostly confused, annunaki, you make it sound like you are from outer space. You wouldn’t happen to be a Scientologist, would you?
Btw, I am willing to bet there are more than your 4 listed “solutions”.
I totally agree with T.G and Nancy you both make excellent point’s,and T.G. I never even thought about the scientologist aspect.I just figured he was tripping on some good mother earth plant!I was actually gonna ask him if he’s been licking toad’s lately lmfao!!!
ROFLMFAO, gypsy I’m cracking up here!!!!!
annunaki..does this sound familiar…IRAQ,HADES divine nature!!!!Give me a f##ken break,dude go lick some-more toads.Light’s out behind them BAR’S/BRAIN? Your choice!!
I am not a scientologist, I have a open mind. I am sure all religions point to the same maker, all are quite similar in it’s value and moral teachings. The only things that are different are the language and the characters/dates of said events.
Your govt keeps much from you, which is good, to preserve culture and way of life. If you do have a open mind, you will accept there are other if not millions of planets filled with intelligent life that is far more advanced, due to national security these truths are hidden from you like lamb.
Perhaps one day you will realize humans are better off without the 3 item(s), alcohol, tobacco, and guns. Yes any item can be used to kill another human, but these 3 cause the greatest damage.
Have a great one.
give up while you’re ahead, annunaki…you present yourself very well, whether I disagree of not with some of your points I see you are attempting to convince a few here who clearly do not fall into the category of “millions of planets filled with intelligent life”…
you have a great day too.
The greatest damage is caused from people with warped mind’s,like your’s.We live in a free country,our choices are our own.Dare I suggest you go back to your namesake country,now known as Iraq.Try preaching to them on their evil usage of gun’s etc.They have been at war for hundreds of years over GOD only knows what.I believe your on the wrong side of the world.Have a safe trip back!!
you are so enraged, gypsy, you are past sense.
you’re telling me to go to Iraq???
my namesake country???
re evil usage of guns???
isn’t annunaki’s argument to stop use of guns, I agree he’s well spoken and you come back with this?
clearly your reading is just as poor as your writing…
OK JO.. Your really lonely this afternoon,if you want to go with annunaki back to IRAQ,I’m sure he/she will take you.Have a safe trip!!!
no help necessary on my behalf, Nance, thanks
you two are just further proof why our kids need to stay in school…
How did you conclude I was from Iraq? What does Iraq have to do with any of these points? You just shown how ignorant and bigoted you really are. FYI I am from Canada, eh?
You can disagree with anyone, these are merely opinions in a thread. You should not resort to bigotry or anger if someone has a different view or opinion than you.
Cheers.
First of all, Tribute Troll, I never said a word about Iraq….so drop your “they” BS!
Secondly, stop trying to play innocent victim here….no one said two f-ing words to you. YOU are the one who came on here and started with your insults to us. Just causing sh!t AGAIN, AS USUAL!
Third, annunaki, yes, you are very entitled to your opinion….as are we.
Fourth, The Tribute Troll is a narcissist. She thinks everything that is said, is said about her. Gypsy’s comment was CLEARLY not even about her but yet, she still jumps in and says, “you’re telling me to go to Iraq???”
Fifth, The Tribute Troll likes to think she’s so intelligent and educated…so much better than us paupers. Telling people to get a dictionary and to learn how to spell and pronounce things properly and that they are the “reason why kids should stay in school”. She has TOTALLY earned each and every name she’s been called…and then some!
BTW Tribute Troll, you’re right in there with the gun toting coppers so, what’s your f-ed up opinion on the topic of guns and drinking/driving? Because it seems to forgot to include that into your sh!t disturbing comments! LMAO!
Oh no! I better hurry and correct that! OMG!!!!!!!!! Hahahaha.
Because it seems YOU forgot to include that into your sh!t disturbing comments!
include that in…not into
cheers
totally
gypsy, gypsy, gypsy, Iraq is on planet Earth, and from the way she/he talks, I’d say she/he isn’t from planet Earth at all! LMAO!
“If you do have a open mind, you will accept…”
If YOU do have an open mind, YOU will accept that not everyone thinks the same way as YOU. Maybe you should go back where you came from, because here in Reality, Earth, the folks like to live by the “majority rules” way of life, meaning that banning everything that may cause harm is not what we want.
“Your govt keeps much from you”
You just said you were from Canada, so if that is true, that would be OUR govt, not “Your govt”.
Nah Tribute Troll, I said “into” and that’s what I mean and the way I want my comment kept. Go screw up your own comments with your BS.
Tributegirl, exactly! And only a looney-tune like The Tribute Troll would go along with such jibberish! If Hitler were still alive, she’d take his side on anything….only because we wouldn’t. Then she cries the blues to annunaki that I called her a “LEECH”. Hmmmmmmmmm…wonder why. Isn’t that what those things are called that only come around to suck blood?
She still hasn’t given an opinion on the topic. Just keeps ‘shooting’ off her mouth…AS USUAL!
ANNUNAKI…I was bored decided to google your name ,came back as Sumerian, former name of Iraq.Now if your canadian my ignorance would lead me to believe you are a Terrorist EH!!..Actually it comes back as Sumerian Underworld deities.forgive my ignorant a$$ for not being specific enough..EH!!
Definitely as usual! Notice how nice and peaceful it was while she was gone? And as soon as she comes back, the crap starts again?
Oh, sorry gypsy, your comment wasn’t there, I was replying to Nancy’s comment!
So gypsy, from now on, BE SPECIFIC!!! LMAO!!!!
annunaki, “I would argue it is a lot tougher for sick/ill person to gather a napsack full of rocks and to go into a school/bank/public place to throw at some folks with the intent of killing versus a few semi automatics/guns would you not agree?” The Taliban sure didn’t need guns to do the terrible things they did, I know that is outside of Canada, but certainly anything can be used as a weapon. Rocks can be quite dangerous if in the wrong hands. So if your kid threw a rock and hit the neighbor’s kid in the temple and did serious damage,should you be responsible? It was your rock?
Tributegirl..I am slapping my hands,am I FORGIVEN!!HAHAHA
wow….I can still generate the rubble to rebel….
victory
Jo-anne & Victory do not belong in the same sentence, you are one slow chick…or dude…not sure which
Carol,
I would be responsible if I sold the rock to the kid and was the creator of the rock. The primary and secondary blame would rest on a) parent of the kid and b) the kid.
As I sated earlier, Yes any item can be used to kill another human, but these 3 (Alcohol, tobacco, guns) cause the greatest damage. You can google the death rates associated with these 3 versus folks getting killed by rocks or anything else you wish you moronically argue.
A little common sense can go a long way…
“the rubble”….that, uh, wouldn’t happen to be some of that “grade school name calling” you mentioned on the other article to mandee, would it?
Yeah, yeah, I know….you think the rules don’t apply to YOU, right? You make this sh!t up as you go along? “Blame them. Blame them. Blame them. It’s never my fault, blame the 3 of them!”
Annunaki: “A little common sense can go a long way…”
Yes, it can! So use YOUR “common sense” and try to comprehend what will happen if our government took your advice and “banned” alcohol and tobacco. Think about it. Even if they only banned one of the two. Ottawa’s deficit has already made front page news this week.
fyi Carol, The Taliban was supplied with ammunition by the Americans a few years back to fight the Russians. They were trained by the CIA as a cheaper alternative in taking down Russian equipment. They were not supplied with rocks to throw at Russian war vehicles/soldiers.
The war in Afghanistan now is to take the fight to the terrorists who train in that region. People who are from Afghanistan/Iraq are not necessarily Terrorists, I believe the UN is trying to help by providing structure and a democratic system. Infrastructure is also being built. The war in Iraq is another matter.
Reading Gypsy’s ignorant comments make me want to puke.
My final post here, and it was fun sharing views and debating important issues that affect everyone.
Nancy,
Great comment and you are probably right. It comes down to what is more important, additional money for the govt for infrastructure/public spending vs saving the lives of love ones, the very people you know and love.
Humans(Guns+Alcohol+Tobacco)=Death/Money(Government+Corporations)-(Healthcare+Public Service Courts+Law Enforcement)
I believe Nancy based on this equation, it is still more expensive and taxing to the population if the 3 are not banned. The deficit will only grow, there needs to be introduced alternative population money making schemes that do not damage society.
Couldn’t help myself, final post.
Annunaki..Must of struck a nerve EH!!Glad to oblige!!!
“Reading Gypsy��s ignorant comments make me want to puke.”
definAtely…
fyi, annunaki, the terrorists hijacked American airplanes and flew them into American buildings, had nothing to do with the Russians. Hmmmm, maybe whoever build those buildings and those airplanes should be held responsible? Rather than the terrorists? That seems to be your logic.
Carol, annunaki would only be responsible in your scenario if it was a space rock!
Anyone watch the news today? Damn protesters over in Kabul were throwing rocks at people! Imagine that! Hahahahaha!
Annunaki: The guns/alcohol/tobacco in your equation are all by choice. No one forces someone to drink, to smoke or to pick up a gun so, your equation should only include the “expense” of those who did not make the choice. The indirect, innocent person. I still think you are waaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy off base with your equation and your thoughts. You might as well just say, “Okay, motorized vehicles should be banned because of the # of deaths every year and what they are doing to the environment. Lets just go back to the horse and buggy for transportation”. Can you just imagine what that would do to our economy? OMG! I would never want to see it! All automobile companies – CLOSED. All trains/airplanes/subways – CLOSED. All snowmobile/boat/atv/chainsaw/lawnmower/snowblower/heavy equipment dealerships and manufacturing plants – CLOSED. All gas and oil companies – CLOSED. All motorized vehicle parts/maintenance/repair shops/garages – CLOSED. I could keep going and going and going because I haven’t even gotten to what would happen to ALL retailers which rely on motorized vehicles to bring product into their businesses. You can’t just go around banning things. There are grave consequences….some are much higher and more valuable than a few human lives, sorry to say…but it’s true. Ever hear the saying “for the greater good”? Yes, it’s sad, it really is, that this is what it has come down to but to lose one life here and 10 lives there, is easier to live with than a worldwide crash! Now, I understand that guns are not too big but, when you start talking about banning tobacco and alcohol products, it’s time to give your head a shake.
Instead of thinking, these other items causes deaths also we should ban them and this is what will happen if we ban everything. Why not ask, “what will happen if we ban these 3(Alcohol, Tobacco and Guns).”
As I stated earlier, cars, planes, buildings all have a primary function that is beneficial to society. Whereas Alcohol, Tobacco and Guns only means is to fleece the population for money and at the same time, causing society/worldly damage. These 3 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Guns) do not have to be twisted to cause harm, their very existence causes harm, whereas anything else you throw at the wall and hope sticks was designed for a higher purpose such as transport or dwelling/make life easier.
Any sick twisted person can use any item/object to cause harm, yes, I agree. But the ones I argue (Alcohol, Tobacco and Guns) causes the highest residual death and harm by their very design and use.
But because YOU think they should be banned, doesn’t mean that they should be banned. The whole world doesn’t necessarily think the same way as you.
there’s no need to be so snotty ’cause you do not share their same opinion, t.g.
I am sure everyone on here is aware of the fact the whole world doesn’t think the same as any one person.
how rude
Damn Troll! Why don’t you give an opinion and quit being such a b!tch?
Annunaki: I have thought of “what will happen if we ban these 3(Alcohol, Tobacco and Guns).” I made a comment way up above, asking you if you really think that our government is going to take a loss of revenue..? You never did answer. I know FOR A FACT that they won’t. I just said in my last comment, “when you start talking about banning tobacco and alcohol products, it’s time to give your head a shake.” Have you ANY idea how much revenue these two products generate? How many people these two products employ? You can’t just BAN them! It also doesn’t just end at those products either. That is what I was meaning when I spoke of banning motorized vehicles. To ban tobacco, you would have to ban all products related to it in any way…cigarettes, cigars, tobacco, rolling papers, rolling machines, stop smoking aids (gums, inhalers, pills, patches, etc.). It doesn’t only stop at the initial product. Do you know how many bars there are out there? How many people they employ? How much money they generate into our society? Take a wild guess how much we, as taxpayers, would be paying for taxes on each dollar we spend in this country; on our property; our belongings, if even ONE of the two (alcohol or tobacco) were banned. We would never be able to afford it…and there would be no available jobs to even try because you just banned a massive product and put millions of people out of work. They would lose their homes and everything else because YOU just put them out of work and their taxes just quadrupled (at least) to make up for the tax loss the government just took on the banned product. Not a very smart move, I should say!