| B.L. Well Noah, I have
to tell you that you are absolutely brilliant in this movie.
N.T. Thank you.
B.L. I guess I have to ask
you first off, when you found out that you were going to play a
young Hitler, what was your immediate reaction to that?
N.T. It was very strange and there was a kind of selfish actor motivation
of this is the kind of a role that will come along maybe once in
your life. But, you don’t want it to be like, "Oh great,
I get to play Hitler!" I had to do a lot of soul searching
and I wouldn’t want to play Hitler just for the sake of playing
Hitler.
B.L. What intrigued you about
the story?
N.T. It was a fantastically intelligent script and I think it’s
sort of a worthwhile tale. I think that once you become afraid to
tell stories because they are taboo subjects or whatever, they become
more dangerous when they are buried away in a box. In a way you
can’t have enough cautionary tales about someone like Hitler
and it’s as relevant today as any time. There is always a
danger that a figure like Hitler does become a sort of dusty historical
footnote. I think to a generation of kids now he’s almost
become that in a way. So every 10 or 20 years I think that there
will be an exploration of Hitler and of the Holocaust by different
filmmakers and different writers and that’s a healthy thing.
B.L. Did you find that you
had to go to anybody to help you make the decision about taking
the role?
N.T. I talked about it with my girlfriend mainly, because ultimately
it was a decision that I was going to have to make and it’s
a sort of thing where you don’t want to discuss it with your
agent and your manager because they will have reasons for you doing
it or not doing it based on sensible career things and that could
go either way.
B.L. Did it take you a long
time to decide whether or not to take the part?
N.T. Not really… It had to be something I could do and live
with in terms of it being a risky topic and it was a risky approach
to it because it’s almost ambiguous, my portrayal of him at
a certain stage. You know how he ultimately ends up and I wanted
to confuse the audience a bit. I wanted to have him going to the
shops, very mundane things to show that great evil doesn’t
come announcing itself in a black cape and fangs. It would be a
lot simpler if it did, but I felt secure enough in that the script
was so well written and intelligent and thought provoking.
B.L. Was there anything that
was really difficult for you to do?
N.T. In a way, the final speeches at the end: he is the full-blown
vile maniacal embodiment of evil. That sort of allowed me to play
around with the lead-up or the arc of the character.
B.L. The scariest thing about
the whole film is that you do see him as a human being. It’s
frightening because we could be walking down the street today and
you don’t really know who is walking next to you and he/she
could be the next, whoever.
N.T. Well, absolutely they could. That’s sort of to me some
of the moral elements of the fable — don’t underestimate
the potential damage that some kind of obscure, ranting, inept character
can do. It’s quite extraordinary when you read early accounts
of him and just to look at him physically I’m sure if you
had met him at the time he would be the last person on your list
you would think would gain any power. You would think this guy couldn’t
get his shoes tied, let alone take over the world.
B.L. And it is something
that is unfortunately happening in every generation, right up to
today.
N.T These figures continue to pop up all over the world, whether
they are white power groups in America or Front Nationale in France
or the BNP in Britain and a lot of the figures in them are quite
similar characters, kind of inept people and you still get that
thing where the intelligentsia dismiss these people as, well you
know they send a bad message, but don’t worry about it. The
target group of the victim is whoever is most easily projected as
the enemy to the masses.
B.L. Take me back to when
you first saw yourself in full makeup dressed like Hitler. How did
you feel? Did it frighten you at all?
N.T. Not really. There was a strange thing where once or twice I
would see myself in the mirror in the makeup, or with the hairstyle
but unfortunately I seem to share some similar facial structure.
The scariest part was doing the speeches at the end of the film
and it's just a very simple thing of mass hysteria and there is an
energy generated much like the same way rock stars come onstage
and go, "Hey everybody" (claps hands) and a million people
do that. There’s an energy that goes backwards and forwards
and for a moment I sort of lost myself, thinking that’s scary
because I’m getting into it. Not what is being said, but the
feeling of exciting a crowd is a very intoxicating feeling. Like
having a room full of people just wrapped on your every word and
you’re manipulating them.
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