| B.L. Your work is absolutely
fantastic in The Two Towers, and even though we don’t
really see "you" I have to think that this must have been
the toughest role of your career.
A.S. Well, he’s an extreme character certainly, and in terms
of an acting challenge these kinds of roles don’t come along
very often and they are like gold dust. They are why you became
an actor really. So, in many ways they are easier because there
is so much there. Tolkien of course gives a lot in his descriptions
and the script writing was fantastic and Peter Jackson’s (director)
take on how he wanted to do it was very clear. It was very challenging.
Not only did I have to involve myself in how I was going to portray
this character psychologically, physically and vocally but how I
was going to marry that with the manifestation on screen. It was
a huge challenge, to answer your question.
B.L. You must have had a
huge responsibility to fans of the film and the books, was that
always in the back of your mind because Gollum is such an integral
part of the second and third films. Did that play into how you were
going to play him?
A.S. I tried not to be fazed by it but I realized that a lot of
people’s favorite character in the books is Gollum because
he’s so flawed. He is such a major point of contact for the
audience I suppose what I wanted to do was find that point of connection
so that he’s kind of like an every man character. The dark
and the light side of him reflect the dark and light sides of all
of us and therefore make him sympathetic as well. I didn’t
want him to be just an evil, snivelling wretch that nobody felt sorry
for or could relate to. I had an angle on it, but as I said, Tolkien
gives so much and kind of lovingly describes his way of speaking
and way of moving and so on. There’s a lot to go on, so that’s
why I think he’s such a memorable character.
B.L I am sure you have been
asked about Gollum’s voice. How did you come up with it?
A.S. It was rooted psychologically through trying to find where
Gollum’s pain was trapped. I thought that his pain was trapped
in his throat, that’s why he is called Gollum because of the
way he sounds. On a physical level I actually based it on my cats
at home. You know when cats get fur balls their whole bodies convulse
and they spew up these fur balls. That’s where the involuntary
action for me was rooted so that’s how it started.
B.L. Do you have people coming
up to you all the time asking you to do the voice?
A.S. I am constantly being asked to record for people’s answering
phone messages, parties and kid’s parties and I operate on
cheap suburban rates.
B.L. You have a family with
two young kids, what was it like to pick everyone up and move to
New Zealand for close to two years?
A.S. They came for principal photography because we of course shot
all three films together. They came down for a large chunk of that
which was great. They were very young then, Ruby was two and she’s
now four and Sonny was born during the filming and he’s now
two and a half. They’ve been part of the journey as well.
B.L. What was your first
reaction after you had done all of this incredible behind-the-scenes
work and then you finally saw what Gollum looked like up on screen?
A.S. Because I had been part of the process all the way along the
line I’d see him develop kind of inch by inch through shooting
on set originally. Through the motion capture phase and then working
with all of the animators who have done an absolutely incredible
job of manifesting him onto the screen. I feel like I know every
single frame of his journey. What was a thrill was seeing it in
front of an audience and seeing how they responded to him. I think
the success of the character is that you forget that he is a CG
(computer generated) character. You are really drawn in by him and
you can feel the audience literally warm up to him and feel sorry
for him. So that was the thrill for me, that it worked and all of
our work paid off.
B.L. I think that you had
the hardest job of anybody on this set. You had to shoot your scenes
twice from different angles plus it was very physically demanding.
There is a lot of buzz that you could get an Oscar nomination and
I hope you do. How does something like that make you feel?
A.S. It would be incredible. I’m just really delighted that
the acting part of it is being acknowledged because basically what
you see up on screen is this creature and it’s sometimes hard
for people to understand exactly what the acting process is going
to be. So the fact that people are generously acknowledging what
I have done has been thrilling for me. Hey, if it comes up in an
award then great. There’s been a lot of controversy about
how much the animation is responsible for who Gollum is and how
much the acting is and I think it’s an interesting debate.
B.L. So very quickly, what
is in store for Gollum in The Return of the King, the third
installment? We do know that he will have a very large role in it.
A.S. (using Gollum’s voice) Oh…It’s a secret,
precious! (laughs)
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