Angelina Jolie collapsed on Salt set

By Alexandra Heilbron on April 7, 2009 | 198 Comments


Angelina Jolie on Salt set in New York CityAngelina Jolie fainted on the set of her new movie Salt last month, but the film crew kept it secret, according to Britain’s Now magazine. A source told the publication, “It all got too much for Angelina. She collapsed between takes, complaining of shortness of breath and dizzy spells. To be fair, it was after she’d filmed a strenuous scene in which she ran around the set, but it was still shocking to see her crumble.” Angelina, who appears to be seriously underweight, was on a detoxification liquid diet at the time to get into shape to play the role of CIA agent Evelyn Salt, and it’s believed this may have contributed to her collapse. ~movi_alex.



Comments & Discussion

  1. Nancy • April 7, 2009 @ 10:54 AM

    The things these stars put themselves through and allow others to put them through, just to make a movie! Look at her hands, she’s obviously underweight, yet goes on a “liquid diet”…?? The only time I have ever heard of someone being on a liquid diet is either because they cannot chew or swallow solid foods, they are purposefully trying to lose weight in a very unhealthy way or they are an alcoholic. I don’t know what they consider to be “in shape” to play the role of a CIA agent but I wouldn’t think it would be for her to look anorexic.

  2. Cia • April 7, 2009 @ 1:11 PM

    …Angelina: you have 6 LITTLE LIVES that love you as THEIR MOM !!!…Stay at home and BE THEIR MOM !!!…I’m sure Brad will support all of you ! 🙂

  3. Jo-Anne • April 7, 2009 @ 4:23 PM

    agree with Nancy here…

    if she wanted to “get in shape” why not develop a fitness program, I mean “thin” is not always “fit” – but liquid detox???

  4. Nancy • April 7, 2009 @ 4:38 PM

    Pains……in my chest!!!! 😛

  5. ke • April 7, 2009 @ 10:42 PM

    with the greyish bluish hair and those hands…she looks like a skeleton. she’s gorgeous but yes i think she is too thin.

  6. mandee • April 7, 2009 @ 11:42 PM

    glad to see who the GROWN UP is in this article 😀

  7. Nancy • April 8, 2009 @ 8:15 AM

    Plain to see the moon is changing soon….schizophrenia is kicking in…every spring and fall.

  8. mandee • April 8, 2009 @ 1:55 PM

    hmm, youre actually talking about my sister again, not me. i dont hear voices. do you?

  9. Nancy • April 8, 2009 @ 4:27 PM

    Schizophrenia is not only hearing voices, mandee…you should know that. Oh, I’d also like to ask what makes you think other people are immature and childish…meanwhile you’re still at home “sponging” off mommy and daddy with no intentions of that ever changing? Seems hypocritical to me. Ah, don’t even bother explaining…I’m sure your sentence would start with “nancys an idiot”…what else is new.

  10. tributegirl • April 8, 2009 @ 4:40 PM

    Schizophrenia has a lot of different characteristics, I’ve met a lot of people with this condition through work, and so far I have not met two who are exactly alike in their symptoms. I’ve met some who are extremely violent, some who are extremely passive, some extremely nervous, etc.

  11. Jo-Anne • April 8, 2009 @ 4:58 PM

    another choice, t.g….

    how about,
    “Nancy, that’s really mean of you to constantly bring this shizo thing up – why not let it go?”

    works for me…

  12. Nancy • April 8, 2009 @ 5:12 PM

    Well, if it works for you Jo-Anne, then why not let it go?????????????????????????? Why not say “Jeeze mandee, maybe you shouldn’t call others names such as “idiot” and they might not call you names back!” It’s a choice.

  13. tributegirl • April 8, 2009 @ 7:05 PM

    Yes Jo, it is a choice, and I choose to make a comment about schizophrenia, because it seemed to me that there might be some confusion as to symptoms. “Hearing voices” is not the only symptom, and I wanted to point that out. I also wanted to point out that schizophrenia is not funny, it is a very serious issue, the people who suffer with this REALLY suffer, and so do their loved ones.

  14. mandee • April 8, 2009 @ 10:26 PM

    mandee on April 7, 2009 11:42 PM

    glad to see who the GROWN UP is in this article

    nancy, do you see me calling you an idiot here? or how about ANY names for that matter? oh thats right, i didnt. i merely stated what i observed. and, once again being in the city i am in and still living at home because you are unable to afford to move out, is actually nothing new. im not the only person in the world that lives at home. and “sponging” off my parents? how would that be? when i pay them 400 of my 500 dollars a month for rent, i put the gas in the truck they bought me so i can run my entire family all over the city so that they can stay home and not have to deal with it. thats the only help i get from them, is the truck that i pay for by being everyones taxi. so what part of that is me sponging? so, heres the comment youve been waiting for. youre an idiot nancy. and tributegirl, you just made it so now i dont even want to talk to you anymore. instead of ever defending me or trying to tell nancy its wrong to say things like that to me (when you know my family situation) you just tell ME what schizophrenia is. im surprised that any of you could think with a sister that has it, that i wouldnt know any of the symptoms. i also know im not the one with the 2 personalities here. nope, that would be nancy who is all nice to me when i agree with her, but is all of a sudden an immature “IDIOT” when i disagree, even when i WAS being nice, originally. i can see whos side youre on tribute girl, and it makes me wonder why youre so quick to always defend nancy “i can see plain as day jo was making a jab at her” and then simply ignore the rude comments she makes to me. take care of yourself and your family. i choose not to speak with you anymore 🙂

  15. Jo-Anne • April 8, 2009 @ 10:59 PM

    one thing only, t.g..
    you said,
    “I also wanted to point out that schizophrenia is not funny, it is a very serious issue, the people who suffer with this REALLY suffer, and so do their loved ones.”

    so, that being the case,and you obviously feel quite strongly about it, what did this remark do for you?

    “Plain to see the moon is changing soon��.schizophrenia is kicking in��every spring and fall.”

    I am not afraid to say, yes, I agree totally with you and Nancy’s remark was NOT at all funny and in very poor taste…there I will say it. You seem to want to say something, sure educate on the condition is good, but why stop there – since you beleive it’s not funny, why not remark “Hey, not funny!” TO THE PERSON POKING THE FUN AT THE SERIOUS CONDITION??

    that’s my thing with you…what kind of hold does this person have on you? Surely you can be friends and yet disagree at times?

  16. Jo-Anne • April 8, 2009 @ 11:08 PM

    mandee, I know you’re bothered by all this but really, the writing has been on the wall for months here with these two, I don’t think t.g. is a bad person, and I’ve even enjoyed many of our recent dialogues, but like you I feel she’s far too in sync with Nancy, no matter what is said, she’ll back it. That’s very clear to me and has been every since I came on this site.

    Yet, I still continue to enjoy the many others on here, do not get too worked up about the lack of concern shown to you, you seem to be working at making your life the best you can at this present time. But whatever you do, don’t ever ever ever feel you have to explain or defend your lifestyle choices to anyone on here. It’s simply none of their business.

    At least you are brave enough to admit to your lifestyle and the issues you are faced with, these two could be doing anything, or nothing, for all we know with regards to employment and could be involved in lifestyles they aren’t proud or comfortable with as well, who knows????

    It’s so easy to embellish and hide when on this type of site, I have a strong feeling your story is much more honest and heartelt than a lot of what has been posted on here…

  17. Nancy • April 8, 2009 @ 11:20 PM

    Yeah, she calls people a million and one names and degrades their “children” (by saying they will never succeed in life) who have said and done nothing to her at all, then cries the blues because I spoke the truth about her. I seem to recall (and yes, I know this is a repeat comment) that she even put your children down, Jo-Anne. Funny how you condemn Tributegirl and yet you piggyback mandee around…whassup with that? Mandee started with the name calling AGAIN….I just gave her another taste of her own medicine…AGAIN! Would somebody like to start from the top of this article and fill me in on what I said TO MANDEE to make her start with her BS comments? (Example of BS comment: “glad to see who the GROWN UP is in this article.”

  18. mandee • April 8, 2009 @ 11:20 PM

    thanks so much for the last comments jo. youre right, it isnt anyones business my situation. but i figure since shes making me look like in a 50 year old living at home and taking my parents for all their worth, i figured id simply explain my situation. and i am only 24, so its not like im too old to live at home. my brother lives at home and hes 26 and his gf also lives here and shes 27. my sister and her hubby and kid live upstairs and they are 39, 42 and 12. so, i dont see anything wrong with being here. yes at times i want to move out so badly i can barely breathe, but you cant change things when you dont have the money. also, youre right. i do believe that tributegirl has plenty she feels like saying to nancy sometimes, but it appears shes afraid that she will be the next one nancy jumps on if she disagrees with nancy or defends someone nancy is trying to bring down. i dont feel bad about myself. EVER. i am who i am supposed to be. bottom line. and im glad that the 2 of us arent fighting anymore, you do seem to be one of the few intelligent ones on this site.

  19. mandee • April 8, 2009 @ 11:22 PM

    oh and nancy its quite alright for you to drag my sisters mental illness and the fact that i live with my parents into a fight, but its not ok for me to bring your kids into it? talk about hypocrite. and like i said, i didnt start anything, i didnt even insult you. i clearly was just complimenting joanne on acting like an adult 🙂 and you once again decided everything is about you.

  20. Nancy • April 8, 2009 @ 11:35 PM

    Oh GIVE IT UP! You were more than “just complimenting joanne on acting like an adult”! Do you really believe everyone who has nothing better to do than read all this crap is that naive? Pfft!! Stop making excuses mandee…you know that I said nothing to you until you started with me!

  21. mandee • April 8, 2009 @ 11:38 PM

    i never said anything TO YOU. so therefore, YOU started it. and i dont personally care if the people that are here are naive or not. i dont know them, they dont mean anything to me. im sure if you wanted the fight to be over, you would have just stopped commenting. same with me. i dont really care what you say or do, im just amusing myself. 🙂

  22. Nancy • April 8, 2009 @ 11:42 PM

    Stop commenting…good idea! I have to work tomorrow so I’m off to bed. Feel free to keep arguing, I mean amusing yourself. 😀

  23. mandee • April 8, 2009 @ 11:44 PM

    sweet dreamzz, hope you have a good day. i worked today, off tomorrow. i had a great day. went by super fast for once! im glad to be home though. havent slept much these days sigh.

  24. Jo-Anne • April 9, 2009 @ 8:57 AM

    for the record Nancy, I am not “condemning” anyone, way too hard a word in my opinion. Simply disagreeing with her rationale.

    mandee, you try too hard, time to put this as amusement only, you got that right! and btw, you are so dead bang on with your comments on a couple of things here and the other site and expressed it very well.

    things will look up for you, you’re making a living, obviously have a family that cares for you and you care for in return. Enjoy your day off – looks to be sunny, yahoo no snow! I am off for 2 now, before I go back to 7 in a a row, but hey, that’s okay.

    I will have my eldest son and his girlfriend here at least for Easter dinner with us and my daughter, unfortunately the other son cannot be here yet, but will move back home for 4 months end April…and I cannot wait! I love to have them all home when they can be here.

    Have a Happy Easter!

  25. Juliana • April 9, 2009 @ 12:44 PM

    What’s all this yapping back and forth have to do with Angelina Jolie?

  26. Jo-Anne • April 9, 2009 @ 1:06 PM

    what does your comment have to do with Jolie besdies merely mentioning her name?????

  27. Jo-Anne • April 9, 2009 @ 1:06 PM

    oops…besides…

  28. mandee • April 9, 2009 @ 1:49 PM

    ha ha good call. 😛 and thanks again for the comments 🙂 im glad that you get to have your kids home sometimes. its always sad when they cant make it home for holidays. 🙁 my brother moved 4 hours away the october that just passed, so he hasnt been here for really any of the holidays. him, my niece, nephew and my sister in law. its hard for things to feel like a holiday when no one shows up. and yeah, im grateful NO SNOW !!!! 😀 i work again tomorrow, but then im off saturday and sunday. so i cant wait. do you buy your kids anything for easter? i got my niece a ton of stuff.

  29. Jo-Anne • April 9, 2009 @ 2:03 PM

    ha ha mandee my “kids” would love it if I bought them stuff but they are all adults now however I must admit I do “take care” of them and love to spoil them still, as well as spoiling all our pets, my hubby, my parents….my one son is 4 hours away, like your brother, yes, that’s hard…that’s thoughtful you take care of your niece so well.

    oh, before I forget, Angelina very thin in this pic (that one for Juliana ha ha!)

  30. mandee • April 9, 2009 @ 5:36 PM

    i forget that people dont treat their kids the same when they get older. because ive always bought for my niece, and i think i may always buy for her. but i think part of it is because shes autistic. this year i got her cooking mama for the wii, the frying pan and spatula that go with it, twilight book 2, a twilight book mark, a tinkerbell tin can, wayyyyy too much candy, and 2 shirts. i think there was some other stuff, but i dont remember what. since my sister is on a pension, i try to make sure my niece gets everything she wants even when my sister cant afford it. this year my sister got her guitar hero for the wii. im the same as you, i love to spoil people. when its mothers day and stuff, i take my niece out and give her money to buy my sister gifts so that my sister still gets things from her even though my niece has no money other than allowance and usually spends it on a cell phone card. and yes, angelina is very thin. its sad, shes such a beautiful woman. i dont know how she can do that to herself.

  31. tributegirl • April 9, 2009 @ 8:17 PM

    Wow. Ok, mandee, you want to know why I’m not defending you to Nancy? Because I believe that you are a big girl and can handle yourself. You said some pretty nasty stuff to Nancy, and did you see me defending her? Nope, she can handle herself as well. And my comment about schizophrenia wasn’t for YOU, although you seem to think that it was only intended for you. You jumped to conclusions. It appeared to me that there might be some confusion here, by several people, so I decided to put a little more info out there for the people who only have Hollywoods view on the situation, aka “hearing voices”. So if you don’t want to talk to me, that’s fine, I personally think you are going way overboard here with me, but whatever. Your choice.

    Jo, no I don’t think schizophrenia is a funny thing, but as I just said, Nancy is a big girl, she knows if she says something like that there will be consequences, she doesn’t need me to tell her that. I don’t believe in telling people what they should/should not say. I’ve never told anyone what they should or should not say. As you have said many times, and I have agreed every time, it is all about choices. Nancy choose to bring up mandee’s situations, mandee retaliated. Mandee said some nasty things to Nancy, Nancy retaliated. I put comments in, but don’t feel the need to “defend” anyone.

    By the way, Jo, we’ve recently had some really good discussions, as you pointed out. And I’ve really enjoyed that. I’ve always found it funny that there are times that we talk well, times that we are at each others throats, and times that we totally ignore each other. I’ve tried to figure out a pattern or something, and all I’ve figured out so far is that if you and I are discussing a situation or event or something, just the two of us, and we don’t talk about other people on this site, we seem to do quite well. I think it will probably stay that way, just because of our personalities, so what I’m thinking is, when we have a chance to really discuss something, how about we put all the rest aside and have really good conversations? There will still be all the crap between us, but I’m thinking maybe we can sometimes talk really well. I’m game if you’re game, what are your thoughts?

  32. Nancy • April 9, 2009 @ 8:31 PM

    Tributegirl…ok, how did that go when Jo-Anne said it to mandee? Oh, “whatever you do, don’t ever ever ever feel you have to explain or defend your lifestyle choices to anyone on here. It’s simply none of their business.” 😛

  33. mandee • April 9, 2009 @ 9:02 PM

    well, tributegirl, i do like you, but it doesnt make sense to me that you wont simply say hey that was a low blow nancy. or hey that was uncalled for. or i disagree with that comment. and also, the only thing ANYONE said about schizophrenia was when i said i dont hear voices, do you? which you also included in that comment up right there ^^. so then, yes your comment was directed at me. but, my sister DOES hear voices, therefore she is on meds that get rid of them, which is why i made that simple statement. it doesnt mean i dont know anything about it, i just chose to only include one symptom. anyways, meh. whatever. its all good. do what you want, say what you want. its not my problem or business. i just dont see the point in you stating your thoughts or opinions when they are clearly only pointed at me.

  34. tributegirl • April 9, 2009 @ 9:18 PM

    OmG, that was NOT directed to you! It was directed to ANYONE who only knows the Hollywood version of schizophrenia! Why do you think that was directed (a jab?) to you, yet you get all bent out of shape when there are comments that are REALLY directed (jabs) at other people!
    You sometimes tell me you don’t want me to defend you, now all of a sudden you want me to say “that was a low blow nancy. or hey that was uncalled for. or i disagree with that comment”? Do you want people to defend you, or not? Because I’m not going to defend anyone, we’re all supposed to be adults here, and I figure if people can’t defend themselves, they should probably find another site to hang out on.
    I’m sorry that your sister has this condition, I hope the meds work well for her, but I made NO negative comment about this at all.
    Nancy, I actually find that quite confusing, because she keeps asking me to explain my choices on here, yet says mandee doesn’t have to explain herself. That comment didn’t really bother me, but yes, I find it kind of contradictory.

  35. Moi • April 9, 2009 @ 9:25 PM

    Okay I am with Juliana on this! Jo-Anne your question “what does your comment have to do with Jolie besdies merely mentioning her name?????” Well this page is supposed to have comments on the article noted above. At least Juliana mentioned Angelina.

    While entertaining to read maybe all of you can exchange email addresses or phone numbers so we don’t have to read all about your personal lives. I just don’t think it is appropriate to divulge personal family dynamics or medical history to strangers. This is not what this sight is intended for. Sorry but it isn’t.

  36. Anon • April 9, 2009 @ 10:21 PM

    tributegirl on April 9, 2009 9:18 PM

    I can’t help but wonder what possible motive you had or what end result you were trying to accomplish by giving us your � professional � description of schizophrenia. I honestly wonder how one can work in the medical field when they have such low opinions and disregard of other people��s feelings. Frankly, I think your position in the �medical�� field lays somewhere between sanitation and at, best a health care aide overseeing bedpans.

  37. Anon • April 9, 2009 @ 10:39 PM

    mandee on April 9, 2009 9:02 PM

    For God’s sake….stop trying to make friends with people that are intent on stripping you of your dignity. They have years on you that have been filled with anger and bitterness. You are no match for them��.they will eat you up, spit you out and you will end up feeling worse about yourself. I say f-em and don��t respond to any personal attacks; respond only to the comments about your opinions, not your life. In the scope of things, there isn��t a person here that will make a morsel of a contribution to your life. Take only the positive offered to you here and let the rest go.

  38. Anon • April 9, 2009 @ 10:44 PM

    Oh, forgot to comment on the topic at hand….Angelina looks like she’s worn out though I don’t really care.

  39. Anon • April 9, 2009 @ 11:23 PM

    Since I am home tonight with nothing to do, I’ll let you all have my unasked for opinions…

    Nancy on April 8, 2009 4:27 PM

    Nancy, you seriously have problems. You are arguing with someone that is probably half your age. You know how upset you get when someone mentions your children, yet at every opportunity you insult Mandee’s family, which are no different to her than your offspring are to you. Your lack of wit and entertainment recently are starting to disappoint me. I thought you were a bigger person that that.

  40. mandee • April 9, 2009 @ 11:57 PM

    thanks again. im actually seeing who the people i SHOULD be talking to really are. and tribute girl, how do you think joanne feels when nancy and you are always accusing HER of “making a jab” at either you or nancy? to tell you the truth, i honestly didnt think anything of your comment. i just wanted to put you in joannes shoes by accusing you of the same exact thing. gets frustrating and annoying does it not? makes you feel you should defend yourself? i dont think you should defend me, i just dont think you should always agree with everything nancy says. anyway, i am the 24 year old here, and i AM going to take anons advice and be the ONLY adult in this situation. take care both of you. i hope you have a great night. there will be no more fighting from me. im too mature to continue this debate. 🙂

  41. lily • April 10, 2009 @ 9:58 AM

    OMG what is going on? I don’t get to the computer for a few days and come back to this… Okay, I read this posting cause I felt sad about Angelina looking so unhealthy and wondered how other people felt. As far as I can tell, the concern is shared. I hope she gets better soon.

    As far as the big fight here, no offense but I think some people are over reacting HUGE and, to be honest, I have often done the same thing with e-mails. Its just too easy to see attitude in words on the screen even when it’s TRULY not meant. Its also too easy to insult people when you can’t see (or even picture in your head) there faces. I like tributegirl’s comment (April 9 8:17) and the thing moi said. Is there more then one “anon” cause the 10:21 comment insulting tributegirl is childish but the rest of your words are very sensible.
    Jo-Anne said it best and I’ll copy her words to everyone whose getting so upset: “you try too hard, time to put this as amusement only”.

  42. tributegirl • April 10, 2009 @ 10:43 AM

    Gina/Anon/Whatever other names you are using, I had no motive, there appeared to be some confusion, at least that’s how it seemed to me. There was absolutely nothing wrong with me stating that schizophrenia is not ONLY about hearing voices. And you are wrong about my career, way wrong.

    mandee, “i dont think you should defend me, i just dont think you should always agree with everything nancy says.”
    First of all, you say I shouldn’t defend you, then you go off on a tantrum and say I SHOULD defend you. Make up your mind, what the h*ll do you want? Also, you sometimes say I shouldn’t defend you, and in the same sentence you are defending Jo-Anne. That’s pretty two-faced of you.
    Secondly, I don’t agree with everything Nancy says, and even if I did, what’s it to you, or to anyone else? I often agree with Jo-Anne too, and you don’t complain about that.
    And thanks for trying to put me in Jo-Anne’s shoes, but…that really doesn’t make any sense. How do I think Jo-Anne feels when Nancy and I accuse her of something? Well, I don’t have to “think” about how she feels, because I “know” how she feels, because it’s been done to me by her as well. You keep saying you’re the mature one, but you’ve got a lot of growing up to do.

    Jo-Anne, sorry to bring your name up so often in this comment, unfortunately the situation warranted it, as your name was brought up to me in mandee’s comments. I’m still hoping you and I can let the past go and maybe be able to have a decent relationship in the future, because I really enjoy it when we have good conversations.

  43. tributegirl • April 10, 2009 @ 10:44 AM

    lily, Anon is someone who used to go by the name Gina, and has also used multiple other names/personalities as well. I’m not sure if she is still doing it or not, but apparently she was banned for awhile for doing it.

  44. Anon • April 10, 2009 @ 11:26 AM

    I am or was both Gina and Anon. I am only posting as anon, those were my comments and I stand by what I said. Knowing that mandee’s sister and her condition is a sore spot, (or rather, thrown into her face during a losing argument) what was the purpose of your description right after Nancy’s comment to her. I still don’t get what you were trying to accomplish with your comment other to bring her down another notch. You may be able to fluff mandee off with your half a$$ explanation of educating the rest of us on the symptoms, but it is very clear to many of us just how mean spirited you are. I think I can speak for many of us here when I say that I don’t need you to educate me because you see it as an opportunity to insult someone you feel is beneath you. Oh, and by the way, I think I’ve hit nail on the head with the career. An educated college/university nurse doesn’t trivialize this condition or the family members that are suffering with them.

  45. Anon • April 10, 2009 @ 11:28 AM

    My comment above is for Tributegirl, forgot to direct it.

  46. Anon • April 10, 2009 @ 11:37 AM

    tributegirl on April 10, 2009 10:44 AM

    That right, I posted under whatever name came to mind and was banned after someone complained. But I never joined the ranks of those airing their laundry and spewing insults over mindless catfights that led no where and had absolutely no purpose whatsoever other than to feed their need to be above others. That my dear shows a complete lack of character. One should bow out gracefully from a conversation if one is not sure what to say or whether it is appropriate to contribute anything to an already pointless derogitory comment.

  47. tributegirl • April 10, 2009 @ 12:36 PM

    So you are bowing out? Good. I have explained why I posted that comment, and I don’t give a sh1t if you believe it or not, you’ve always said you love to stir the pot, and I believe that is exactly what you are trying to do here. I was not trivializing anything, was not trying to take anyone down a notch, anyone with half a clue could see that, obviously you can’t. I know the situation with mandees sister is a sore spot, of course it is, and I’ve never said anything negative about it.
    Way off about the career, but I’m wondering, do you consider people who work in sanitation, and health care aides, to be beneath you? I don’t work in those areas, but do not consider them to be “beneath” me, but it sounds like you think you are way above them.

  48. mandee • April 10, 2009 @ 1:36 PM

    wow anon. thanks again. im actually surprised to see that the 2 people that i have had many disagreements and fights with, are the only 2 that see things exactly from my point of view. im glad the 2 of you are around. (this being anon and joanne).

  49. Anon • April 10, 2009 @ 2:24 PM

    tributegirl on April 10, 2009 12:36 PM

    I do like to stir the pot, yes….about narrow-minded comments or when debating an OPINION, not by personally attacking someone for who they are or what they’re born into. Big difference there. Nor do I feel the need to be continuously creating alliances. Am I bowing out? No, there is no need to. I don��t support mindless attacks on other people to strengthen my �team�� and then ask for forgiveness from my opposition. I am consistent and reliable; I do not flip flop, stirring the pot all the while trying to come off as neutral. I mean what I say and visa versa. FYI I don��t look down on anyone be it occupation, choices they��ve made or for the hand they��ve been dealt in life. I am not above anyone and never have been. My comments about sanitation workers were not an insult to the occupation. My comment was that I believe your behaviour reflects someone who killing two birds with one stone – fluffing their own line of work to add an air of credibility when it was really for the purpose of adding insult to injury.

    As for me not having a clue about what you meant you must pardon my ignorance and realize that not everyone has your ��.high level of intelligence. That��s why I asked why you would find it appropriate to educate us all on the symptoms of schizophrenia immediately after Nancy hurled her insult to Mandee No big deal, you have cleared that up very nicely for me. I understand exactly where you��re coming from now. Thanks

  50. Anon • April 10, 2009 @ 2:36 PM

    mandee on April 10, 2009 1:36 PM

    Mandee, I am not coming to your rescue; you may end up hating me for commenting on something that you post��..like name calling which you really should stop. It makes you sound very immature.

    I am expressing my disgust with the lack of respect shown to you. I cannot fathom how anyone can take personal information that someone has shared (who obviously felt a need to share these tidbits for some reason) and throw it back in their face or use it to suppress and make them feel inferior in front of a group of people, be it in person or on line. Each is capable of lasting effects. So, it is not you personally that I am defending, it is really about respecting boundaries here.

  51. mandee • April 10, 2009 @ 2:52 PM

    i do get what youre saying, and i assumed it wasnt personally me you were rescuing, but it just so happens that you see it the way that i do. minus the insults. it is possible that you and i will end up disliking eachother. i really liked tributegirl and nancy until recently. and youre right, it is immature to insult people, but sometimes my irritation pushes me to say things i normally wouldnt do. and i dont understand either how people can pretend to be your (can i even call it friend when its online?) and then turn around and use things i said to them against me, when i clearly only told them because i assumed it wouldnt be thrown back in my face. i do believe that tributegirl said it best when she said “you have a lot of growing up to do”. shes right, i do. but then again, so does she and nancy. the difference is im still pretty young, i am capable of changing. im not so sure that adults with children are.

  52. mandee • April 10, 2009 @ 2:53 PM

    sorry, i normally wouldnt SAY not do.

  53. tributegirl • April 10, 2009 @ 3:03 PM

    Keep stirring, Gina, keep stirring. I took your comments about sanitation workers as an insult to those workers, it came across as you looking down your nose at them.
    I would like to know WHERE I put mandee down for the situation she is in. Hmmmm, yes, that’s right, NOWHERE did I put her down for it. Not once. And mandee, you yourself have to admit that’s true, in fact I have offered concern for you (remember my first e-mail?), suggestions, compliments (mainly for everything you’ve done for your niece), and support. THAT is what I would call a friend. I’m not sure what your definition of a friend is though, because as anon just mentioned, you flip-flop a lot.

  54. Anon • April 10, 2009 @ 3:12 PM

    mandee on April 10, 2009 2:52 PM

    mandee, there is nothing to dislike about you. 🙂 Sometimes things come out sounding different than what you intended to say and are taken wrong, but you should stop name calling. Only say what you would in person. It is very easy to hide behind a screen and say whatever comes to mind. And yes you are young…this is what infuriates me. I can’t imagine my niece or daughter revealing herself to a group of people that continuously use this information to discredit her whenever the opportunity arises. In all fairness you do the same to nancy. Keep your comments directed to her opinions, not her kids, looks etc.

    Try to remember a saying I taught my kids; never look down on someone unless you are helping them up. None of us know where someone is coming from and why they do or say the things they do. It’s really our experiences that define who we are, where we’re going in life and whether our outlook will be positive or negative.

  55. Anon • April 10, 2009 @ 3:19 PM

    tributegirl on April 10, 2009 3:03 PM

    My comment about flip flopping was for you, not mandee. Please re-read and do not try to convince her that it was meant for her. I don’t believe it was mandee (on this page at least) that was asking jo for forgiveness in the never-ending saga of alliances.

  56. Anon • April 10, 2009 @ 3:19 PM

    tributegirl on April 10, 2009 3:03 PM

    My comment about flip flopping was to you, not mandee. Please re-read and do not try to convince her that it was meant for her. I don’t believe it was mandee that was asking jo for forgiveness in the never-ending saga of alliances.

  57. tributegirl • April 10, 2009 @ 3:40 PM

    I wasn’t asking Jo for forgiveness. Please re-read my comments. I know your flip-flop comment was for me, but you like to twist things around, so I thought I’d do the same thing.

  58. Anon • April 10, 2009 @ 4:30 PM

    tributegirl on April 10, 2009 3:03 PM

    I would like to know WHERE I put mandee down for the situation she is in. Hmmmm, yes, that��s right, NOWHERE did I put her down for it. Not once.

    Did I say you put her down for her situation? Hmmmm no, I believe my comments referred to the re-enforcement of Nancy��s schizophrenia comments. You really didn��t need to do more, that was loud and clear. Your post on April 10 3:03 is just another way of skirting around the corner your backed into and trying to come out sounding neutral and innocent. You may be able to convince mandee with your fancy little footwork on the meaning of friendship, but it doesn��t wash with me. As for my comment on Jo��s forgiveness, that��s exactly what it is. You can��t even openly admit it because your afraid of what Nancy might think. There really is no need to continue this petty conversation; both your and my definition of what appropriate comments are is very clear and obviously we��re not on the same page.

  59. tributegirl • April 10, 2009 @ 4:55 PM

    Actually, no, I don’t give a sh1t what Nancy thinks about me & Jo having a conversation, and I wasn’t asking for Jo’s forgiveness, I don’t feel I’ve done anything that needs forgiving. And I wasn’t re-enforcing Nancy’s comments, as I said before, she is a big girl and can handle herself, she doesn’t need my help, you have taken my comment totally out of context, and I know you are too smart to just simply be getting it wrong. What you are doing is stirring the pot, and trying to get a big fight going between me and mandee. But mandee’s a big girl too, she’s not stupid, I know she’s mad at me right now, but I’m also pretty sure she can see how you’re twisting things and trying to get her to see things differently than how they are.
    You are right about one thing, we are not on the same page, you are sneaky, conniving, and manipulative.

  60. Anon • April 10, 2009 @ 5:37 PM

    Wow, you’ve pegged me wrong on this one, I am not stirring the pot. I’m calling you on your comments and what your motive was, which you still haven’t answered. You’ve gone on about what a wonderful friend you are and how much you’ve helped mandee and who your loyalty lies with, but the question remains: what was the point of re-enforcing Nancy’s comments?

    My motive is not to bring mandee down but to build her up. Getting you two to argue would just be defeating my intentions.

  61. Nancy • April 10, 2009 @ 5:46 PM

    Jeeze, The Mandee Chronicles, hahaha. Then has the nerve to say that I think “it’s all about nancy”!!

    Anon: I’m nowhere near “twice” mandee’s age! And you are a liar about not using other names on here since Tribute got your IP address! Man, you think everyone is stupid, or what? For example, how about the name ‘archive queen’? Don’t even try to deny it! Tributegirl and I DO disagree on articles on here. I, in no way, took her schizophrenia description as being anything to mandee. And to tell you the truth, she’s right about me defending myself. I’ve had a bunch of you all gang up on me for my opinions and I didn’t give a sh!t…Tributegirl never joined in and I never once said anything to her about taking sides. I would never do that to anyone…even someone I only “know” online! In fact, everyone wants to play “innocent” with me…go back up and read my comment about the full moon and the schizophrenia and tell me where I even referred TO MANDEE! I mean, she wasn’t referring to me in her “GROWN UP” comment, so how was I referring to her in my comment that followed that? Maybe you tight @$$es will sit around and let mandee come ripping through this website calling you names but I won’t put up with it and the likes of you are not going to tell me that I have to! Got it?

    Tributegirl: I want to THANK YOU, truly I do. For keeping back and letting me fight my own battles. Here’s the difference between me and these other ones that are b!tching, I am very independent…always have been. Love my parents and my kids more than anything, personally I would never move back home but I understand someone who does TEMPORARILY (and Anon, 10 years is sponging, FYI!!) to catch up on bills which have gotten the better of them, going back to school to better themselves…not as a lifestyle to be a lazy sh!t!! I can’t believe that you “parents” (being Jo, Anon, etc.) would ENCOURAGE mandee or anyone else to stay in a situation that keeps her down…even when people are trying to help her up! Jo-Anne said something similar to mandee a while back because mandee complained of getting no hours at work and having very little money. Tributegirl and I came to mandees defence saying that she could be in schooling or whatever, I didn’t realize when I defended her that this was her “lifestyle”. And the nay sayers can say it’s none of my business all they want but as lily once said “You made it eveyone’s business when you posted it on Tribute”. I also truly agree with your last comment, Tributegirl, to Gina/Anon about “stirring the pot” and being “sneaky, conniving and manipulative”. And I don’t care what anyone thinks of me agreeing with you!

  62. Jo-Anne • April 10, 2009 @ 6:37 PM

    actually, it appears to be all about Anon and T.G. here, really, Nancy – mandee has long fallen from the main theme…

    nancy…you obviously DO care about everything on here…who are you kidding? and for the record, you’re still nothing but a “tough” talking bully.

    I don’t see Anon nor myself encouraging Mandee to “keep herself down” rather the opposite. You Nancy have some real issues that go far beyond this website and for some reason get far more agressive when anyone disagrees with you or (I’ll steal a word here) forms any kind of web-alliance with anyone on this site. Hence, all your immature “ass kisser” remarks…are you really that friendless?

    t.g. yes, the recent conversations were definitely getting somewhere…

    mandee, you are getting the brunt of this and again, for the record, your lifestyle is your own, it’s not the real “situation” here, everything just kinda got sidetracked to that with all this “advice” coming your way…

    I kinda like your style, Anon, and find many of your comments extremely dead bang on, but question your sincerity, it kinda “tanked” when you admitted to posting under other names…I just cannot see ANY reason for that as a grown woman…

  63. Nancy • April 10, 2009 @ 7:43 PM

    I’m not a “tough” talking bully, Jo-Anne, and no, I DON’T care what ANY of you think of me.

    I said that you and Anon are encouraging mandee to stay down because you are both telling her that her situation is just fine. Mandee said that I’m talking as though she were 50 years old and still living at home and, well, she will be if SHE doesn’t change it. Anyways, that’s her situation and her choice but, you definately have encouraged her to stay in that situation. As for me being “friendless”, haha, no actually I have some really great friends. People disagree with me quite often on here Jo, I really don’t care as long as they can be mature about it. BUT when they start disrespecting me and name calling it’s game on. Call it “aggressive” all you want. You sound pretty angry that I called you an “@$$ kisser” but hey, a spade is a spade. I do not care if Tributegirl gets along with you, mandee, Anon or anyone else…you see, that is HER choice, not mine. She can do whatever and talk to whoever, defend whoever she wants…I respect that.

  64. tributegirl • April 10, 2009 @ 7:49 PM

    Anon on April 10, 2009 5:37 PM

    “I am not stirring the pot. I��m calling you on your comments and what your motive was, which you still haven��t answered.”
    -Yes, you are stirring the pot. Yes I have answered it, a few times actually, but I guess you were stirring so hard you didn’t notice.

    “what was the point of re-enforcing Nancy��s comments?”
    -Where exactly was I re-enforcing Nancy’s, or anybody’s, comments? Re-read the comments, your question doesn’t make any sense. And actually, even if I had been re-enforcing someone’s comments, what’s it to you? Why do you think I should have to explain myself to you?

    “You��ve gone on about what a wonderful friend you are and how much you��ve helped mandee”
    -Yes, actually I believed I did help mandee, I offered some suggestions that I thought would be beneficial to her, and let her know exactly what I think of the things she has told me, mostly I told her that I think she is an amazing aunt to that little girl, and I’ve said that on here different times.

    “My motive is not to bring mandee down but to build her up. Getting you two to argue would just be defeating my intentions.”
    -Know what I think of that comment? I think it’s bullsh1t. As Jo said, your sincerity is questionable.

  65. Jo-Anne • April 10, 2009 @ 7:55 PM

    correction Nancy, nothing you say makes me angry, in order for me to be angered by anyone, I’d have to like them…

    my emotions for you are non-existent

  66. tributegirl • April 10, 2009 @ 8:02 PM

    Nancy, to both your comments above,
    “Tributegirl never joined in and I never once said anything to her about taking sides.” That’s true, while other people were after me to go against you, you have never once even suggested that I go against anyone else. I do appreciate that, thank you.
    And you are right about something else, there have been other posters on here in recent weeks that I have felt quite sure were Gina, but I thought I could be wrong, no one else mentioned it so I thought maybe it was just my imagination. Apparently you’ve noticed it too then.
    I see what you are saying about people kind of keeping mandee down by saying her situation is fine, but I think other people are taking that the wrong way. What you are saying is if anything, people should be encouraging her to find more, or better, employment, or upgrade her education, take steps toward moving out on her own and being independant. And I totally agree with that, I don’t think their intention is to keep her “down”, but they do keep saying her situation is fine and don’t say anything about stepping forward. And that could come across as suggesting she not step forward with her life. If I’m reading what you are saying wrong, please correct me.
    I am hoping mandee does move forward with her life, I know there are employment issues in her city, she’s said that before, and I know it’s hard saving for an education, but I am hoping she will find a way to step forward. But again, that’s her choice.
    And thanks for not getting on my *ss about who I talk to on here, I appreciate that, I wish others would stay off my *ss for talking to you.

  67. tributegirl • April 10, 2009 @ 8:12 PM

    Jo-Anne on April 10, 2009 6:37 PM

    Sorry Jo, didn’t purposely leave you for last, I was trying to address each person here in the order of their last comments, then Nancy’s last one popped up right after I submitted my comment to Gina! Hmm, now I see you just posted a comment above my last one! Funny how this site works.

    “actually, it appears to be all about Anon and T.G. here, really”, yeah I noticed that, and I had been trying to stay out of it! I posted a comment because I thought there was some confusion, and now all h*ll’s broke loose! Anon is really dragging this through the mud, it’s pure foolishness, she’s beating a dead horse, but won’t stop. She seems to love all the drama.

    “t.g. yes, the recent conversations were definitely getting somewhere��” yes they were, and now all this silliness seemes to have put a stop to it, I’m hoping we can pick up again at some point, but I have a feeling it would be useless to try now. Your thoughts? I was really enjoying it, and was very pleased to discover that we can talk to each other that way. And I hope you understand that I will still be “friends” with Nancy on here, as I said before, I don’t come to peoples defence on here because we are all old enough to fight our own battles. I won’t defend you against her, or her against you, I think I can (hopefully!) be friends with both of you.

  68. Jo-Anne • April 10, 2009 @ 8:24 PM

    works for me…

  69. Nancy • April 10, 2009 @ 8:40 PM

    Jo-Anne: “my emotions for you are non-existent”

    YAY! Then stop bringing up and picking everything I say because it seems to me that you enjoy this.

  70. Nancy • April 10, 2009 @ 8:41 PM

    Tributegirl: No problem. I like you and your decisions are yours alone.

  71. mandee • April 10, 2009 @ 11:46 PM

    wow. everything is clearly getting out of hand. plenty of people have already stated how its more mature to NOT name call during a debate or disagreement. so im wondering why the names are still being thrown around? and i do believe the 2 of you are mistaking everyones comments to me about how its fine that i still live at home. it is fine. i know they arent trying to give me a reason or excuse to stay here, they dont need to tell me i should move on with my life or take steps to make it better, for me to know that i should. ive actually already started applying to schools, the only downfall is where i could get money from to go. also, i dont believe for one second that nancy sees it the way you do tributegirl. i think maybe i read a bit deeper into her messages, but it seems to me she feels i should also get my life moving, but i dont believe she MEANS that considering all the insults, rude comments and low blows. and i wasnt asking you to DEFEND me tributegirl, i was asking that if you disagree with nancy to at least have the balls to tell her. which you still havent admitted that you disagreed with the comments she said to me. but whatever. its a computer. i dont NEED friends online. i dont even need friends in real life actually. and i do not question anons sincerity just because she has posted under different names. at least she will say exactly what she thinks, and will admit when she disagrees with someone or something they have said. i never asked ANYONE to take my side. but i do believe if it was someone else saying those exact words to me, even if (sorry for this) it was joanne to say it, the 2 of you would be all over her you wouldnt even leave enough room for me or anyone else to get a word in. now, as far as im concerned you should all let this foolish fight go.

  72. hulahoop • April 10, 2009 @ 11:55 PM

    this whole thing is a such a shame since its good friday and all.

  73. Anon • April 11, 2009 @ 12:12 AM

    Nancy,

    Well since the cards are on the table, the names I��ve posted under are Gina, Blue Gina, Anon, and though you think I��m full of sh*t, my daughter posted under Ricky and Stan. Sorry disappoint you, but using �queen�� in my name is not really my style; you must have been fighting with someone else.

    As for mandee living at home��.you should tread lightly here. Your kids are much too young for you to even have an idea of what they will turn out like and those would be pretty bitter words to swallow. Have you ever thought that maybe mandee��s parents wouldn��t support her going back to school and that maybe the income she does bring in is needed in that household? Probably not.

    Jo

    My sincerest words reflected in all my comments and no posting under various aliases
    As I said to mandee earlier, it is very easy to sit behind a screen and lash out at people; various aliases made that easy for me. Strictly �blue�� Anon for me – my Apologies for the disappointment.

    As for me being �sneaky, conniving and manipulative�� I am sorry you all feel that way. I haven��t stabbed anyone in the back and have tried to approach you all with the same tone and respect I would appreciate.

  74. mandee • April 11, 2009 @ 12:24 AM

    i dont see how youre “sneaky, conniving and manipulative” when you are not the one insulting anyone. and i also dont see how you are any of those things when you read the exact same posts they did, and have yet to throw any of it back in my face. and youre absolutely right. my parents will not help me pay for school. they have even told me no one will be stupid enough to give me a loan to go back to school and that im wasting my time. also, when i give more than half the amount i make a month to them for rent, i can not afford to go to school 🙁 although i do want to.

  75. Anon • April 11, 2009 @ 12:51 AM

    mandee on April 11, 2009 12:24 AM

    I’m sure there are some social programs in your town/city that may be available for you to either go back to school or offer job placements. I believe you might even fall under the “youth” programs with Service Canada. There are also programs with the Y that offer employment with government agencies that build skills and pad your resume. They are called reach back programs and are available to anyone that has collected employment insurance or other forms of assistance during the last 3 years. Each province has a different program. You need to do a little research online and Service Canada would be a good start. Nothing comes easy to anyone, but if you are determined and do some research, you can find a program that is suitable for you. If you are refused through one agency, try another. And if you are told you don��t qualify, keep in mind that there is always an exception to the rule and be persistent.

  76. Anon • April 11, 2009 @ 12:54 AM

    mandee on April 11, 2009 12:24 AM

    I’m sure there are some social programs in your town/city that may be available to you so you can go back to school or offer job placement. I believe you might even fall under the “youth” programs with Service Canada. There are also programs with the Y that offer employment with government agencies that build skills and pad your resume. They are called reach back programs and are available to anyone that has collected employment insurance or other forms of assistance during the last 3 years. Each province has a different program. You need to do a little research online and Service Canada would be a good start. Nothing comes easy to anyone, but if you are determined and do some research, you can find a program that is suitable for you. If you are refused through one agency, try another. And if you are told you don��t qualify, keep in mind that there is always an exception to the rule and be persistent.

  77. Anon • April 11, 2009 @ 12:56 AM

    oooops something wrong with the site?

  78. tributegirl • April 11, 2009 @ 7:35 AM

    mandee, I can’t tell Nancy that I disagree with her because I think she was giving you a taste of your own medicine. What she said to you was pretty nasty, yes, but you were not on here for awhile, and when you did come back the first thing you did was throw a ton of nasty names at her right away, so what you said to her was pretty nasty as well, did I tell you I disagree with what you said to her? No. And if you are going to throw names like that around and insult people out of the blue, what do you expect them to do?
    And if Nancy sees your situation different than I do, and if you see her comments different than I do, that’s fine, being different people we are all going to see things differently, I remember you trying to explain how you saw other peoples comments before, and no one got on you for that.
    Anon has just given you some excellent advice, by the way. And I do think it wasn’t very nice of your parents to say those things to you, further education is NEVER a waste of time. I hope you don’t let their words get you down.

  79. Nancy • April 11, 2009 @ 1:52 PM

    That’s exactly what I meant, Tributegirl, that they should be encouraging mandee to better herself rather than stay in a rut but they all, including mandee, will just find any excuse to twist the hell out of what I’m saying.

    Anon: I will always be there for my kids, no doubt about it but I would never keep them in a rut. There comes a time when the umbilical cord has to be severed. Like I said before, it’s one thing to need some “temporary” help, it’s another to turn laziness into a lifestyle. I would NEVER EVER tell my kids that someone would be stupid to give them a loan to go back to school or that they would be wasting their time!! I taught my kids a long time ago that they can be anything they want to be as long as they set their minds to it and get off their butts and do it. I also told mandee this awhile back when she spoke of becoming a chef. She just takes everything I say the wrong way.

    As for the names Gina/Anon has used…well…I wonder how long of a post one can actually put on here…

    Gina; blue Gina; Anon; blue Anon; Anonymous; Stan; blue Stan; Ricky; ricky; blue ricky; blue $$ricky$$; You people are a WASTE of my time; Archive Queen (and I did not have any interaction with this person, they interacted with Jo-Anne on March 24 Zac Efron article); Biron (on the March 13 Joaquin Phoenix article)..and then you responded under the name Anon to this Biron on that same article. You admitted on the Jan 28 Jessica Simpson weight gain article to using the names Stan and ricky but that it was MOSTLY your daughter and her friend…funny though how, one of those names would post a comment and then a minute or so later Gina would post… Oh, and what about Trixie? I also know that you have used many more names than that and I totally don’t agree with that at all, it makes it all so fake and it makes you an instigator because you go around under all these different names causing problems for people and then you come in under another name agreeing or disagreeing with whatever just to cause more drama….and this is why “I” informed Tribute and had your IP address blocked for awhile, and I believe that they never should have unblocked it because you are definately still doing it! So, put that on your “table” and stop lying!! 😉

  80. Anon • April 11, 2009 @ 2:59 PM

    Ya yes trixxi, during the rosanne chronicles, I forgot about that one. lol I did explain the different names…. unfortunately or should I say fortunately, we have 2 computers and a laptop. If you check your explorer/opera or whatever you��re using, the cookies on your computer detect the name/website etc on tribute: you have to remember to change them before you post. As for the others, don’t flatter yourself, I am not as addicted to the bullsh*t as you are and only post under what interests me; I don’t need to beat everyone else to the punch. I honestly don’t care how “low” your opinion is of me, it means nothing in the scope of things and as far as my ip address being banned, do you honestly think that has somehow affected my life negatively? There are many other forms of mindless entertainment on line. I did have an idea that it was you that complained as you have proven yourself to be quite the leader with a very strong pack. lol If you feel so threatened by my presence here, you��re free to contact them again. That should put you right back on top leaving only jo to contend with. You seemed to be quite skilled with the archiving, could you really be the queen?

    As for your response to my comment about your kids, you still don’t get the picture. You’re still going on about helping mandee, but in reality, you’ve read her comments/posts/laundry but you have never really listened to what she was saying. It all fell on deaf ears.

    mandee on April 11, 2009 12:24 AM
    “and you��re absolutely right. My parents will not help me pay for school. they have even told me no one will be stupid enough to give me a loan to go back to school ”

    Were you able actually hear what she said or read through THAT comment? And you find it necessary to put her in her place? tsk tsk She may not be “half” your age, but believe me you have double her life experience. Personally, shooting her down would give me no pleasure whatsoever. But to each his own.

    As for me being a sponge by living with my parents for 10 WHOLE YEARS, they are getting to a point that they need someone there because they can��t keep tract of heart meds, taking each other��s pills because they can��t remember where they put their own etc. An option is to move them into my modest home or us back into their much more elaborate and spacious home. Who do you suggest sponge of who in this situation?

  81. Anon • April 11, 2009 @ 3:10 PM

    Oh and nancy, if you really want me to “lay the cards” on the table for you, I happen to be somewhat computer savvy and if I really wanted to back on during my “banned” time, resetting my ip address and coming back on as someone else would not have been problem for me lol 😉

  82. Anon • April 11, 2009 @ 3:54 PM

    wow, I’m still on! lol I can’t believe you would openly admit here (so all the bees that spend their time building up your hive can see what the queen has been busy doing) what you are capable of. If you can’t match someone intellectually, do you have them removed so you can maintain your position in the nest? What a disappointment you are. You bash everyone for every little flaw, and pride yourself as someone with character and strength? ha Personally, I think your upset that mandee was given some decent advice �� that didn��t come from your lips. You will never match me intellectually, So off with you to the tribute tribunal and do what you do best.

  83. Nancy • April 11, 2009 @ 3:58 PM

    Well, if you would even think of changing your IP address, you’re a little more “addicted” to this “mindless entertainment” than you let on! I could also care less (which is why I admitted to it) if you or anyone else knows that I am the one who contacted Tribute about your multiple personalities…and I am in no way feeling threatened of you in any way, shape or form. As for your over 10 years of soaking it up…you spoke of it as past tense. I’m sure your aging parents weren’t that bad off over 10 years ago…but whatever, you tell yourself whatever you have to ease your own consciense. I am all for people taking care of their parents in their golden years and more people should have the kindness and respect to do so WHEN THE PARENTS ARE AILING AND NEED THE HELP.

    Again, as far as the multiple names you’ve used, tell yourself whatever it is you need to…you’re not convincing me. You used the Stan and Ricky as well and had admitted to it…you had also admitted that you had known your daughter and her friend were commenting under those names INSTIGATING with people on here…people like Kaiya.

  84. Nancy • April 11, 2009 @ 4:01 PM

    Never match you intellectually?

    You’re a dumbass!! Don’t even go there!

    HAHAHAHA!!

  85. Nancy • April 11, 2009 @ 4:05 PM

    What makes you think that this website is about ranks? I don’t care who likes me and who doesn’t and where on this invisible totem pole you have each one of us situated!!

  86. Anon • April 11, 2009 @ 4:30 PM

    Nancy,
    “I am all for people taking care of their parents in their golden years and more people should have the kindness and respect to do so WHEN THE PARENTS ARE AILING AND NEED THE HELP”.

    There you go again assuming you know when, how and what goes on in other’s houses. Should I assume by your conversations here, that this is who you really are that you spew the same verbal garbage around and to your kids when they’re (what you perceive to be) out of line? hmmm Not a very good example. Maybe since you live with them, they get a sense that you��re about to take out the trash.

    lol as for my kid posting under ricky, they were for you. They were amazed that it didn’t matter what topic they looked at, yours was the first comment and made it a mission to beat you too it. Quite funny actually since some of their posts were only “1st” or “2nd”, but I guess you��re not as in tuned to reading between the lines as you think you are.

    No totem pole here, just a virtual hive with a nasty queen.

  87. Jo-Anne • April 11, 2009 @ 5:51 PM

    commenting on the “intellectual” part ONLY, you had Nancy beat way way way (heavy emphasis on the “way”, obvious) well before (gosh, I even hate typing it, it is so 3rd Grade)…”dumbass”…

  88. mandee • April 11, 2009 @ 9:21 PM

    tributegirl, the difference between my insults to nancy and hers to me are i wasnt dragging her family or any of her family illnesses into it. its one thing to say truths or whatnot about ME specifically but to drag up a family illness that i quite clearly do not even have is quite another. you have fingers, you know how to say to me that you disagree with me. funny you DID stick up for nancy during that conversation though. dont remember? how about “i see it PLAIN AS DAY that it was a jab at nancy” and then as soon as i say “i dont hear voices do you?” you spew out the crap about schizophrenia. (thank you, spell check) and you honestly really dont expect me to see a pattern of you constantly defending nancy? even when shes in the wrong? hmmm, maybe youd better reread the latest conversations between us then. you seem to be missing something. and that whole “thank you for letting me fight my own battles” comment nancy made was definitely as fake as her personality is. and nancy, im SURE that you honestly only threw my living situation in my face just simply because you wanted to be a nice person and try to help me move on with my life and become something better. funny how quickly you backpedal when someone puts you in your place for your very distasteful comments to a 24 year old.

  89. mandee • April 11, 2009 @ 9:22 PM

    sorry, maybe i meant were and not are? in the first sentence?

  90. mandee • April 11, 2009 @ 9:24 PM

    oops, ps all. HAPPY EASTER 🙂

  91. Anon • April 11, 2009 @ 9:56 PM

    Jo-Anne on April 11, 2009 5:51 PM

    I think we’re pretty much on the same page whereas with some others, I��m left wondering if I��m even reading the same book.

  92. Anon • April 11, 2009 @ 10:32 PM

    Nancy on April 11, 2009 3:58 PM

    I just couldn��t leave it at that����

    Well, if you would even think of changing your IP address, you��re a little more �addicted�� to this �mindless entertainment�� than you let on

    You still don’t “hear” what people are saying. Let me re-quote for you: �and IF I really wanted back on during my �banned�� time, resetting my ip address and coming back on as someone else would not have been a problem for me�� And since I am feeling somewhat bad for knocking you off your �virtual totem pole�� tonight, I’ll save you the time of scrolling through all my previous comments and tell you that I did say I loved the e-drama and have no problem admitting it. I don��t sit back finger pointing at others if I do the same. Why��.that would make me a real hypocrite wouldn��t you say?

  93. Nancy • April 11, 2009 @ 10:55 PM

    Anon: Yes it would. It does. You are. You seem pretty p!ssed that I called you out on all those names, Gina. Also, Ricky and stan weren’t trying to one-up me…they were picking on another poster on here named Kaiya.

    Jo-Anne: HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! In your dreams.

    Mandee: My “thank you” comment to Tributegirl was NOT fake. I also never said that I “only” threw your living situation in your face just simply because I wanted to be a nice person and try to help you move on with your life and become something better. I called you a sponge and I meant it. I’m not backpedaling anything and no one on here has “put me in my place”, hahaha. Especially for comments made to a 24 year old ADULT. You’re not a child, stop pretending you are. Hey, if you want to stay at home soaking it up, go right ahead…your choice. Just remember, it won’t get any better unless YOU make it better. No one is going to do it for you. And you know that I mean that, I said it to you before any of this went down and I would say it to anyone, not just a 24 year old. Life is what you make it.

  94. Anon • April 12, 2009 @ 12:11 AM

    Nancy on April 11, 2009 10:55 PM

    I’m not angry at all. I have no problems with you calling me on it. Nor do I have a problem with saying it. It makes no difference whatsoever. To be honest it wouldn��t bother me if you posted under a different name everyday of the week. I don��t know you and never will. Nancy could be Abdul for all I know and it wouldn��t make any difference. Now on the other hand, you care because you scan the posts looking for comments from the people you can��t stand so you can put them in their place. There��s no other reason for it to bother you as much as it does. Ohhh wait, I know why…it would make your endless task of �researching�� archives virtually impossible for you to do, stripping you of whatever ammunition you think you may be useful against your �rivals��.

  95. Nancy • April 12, 2009 @ 11:01 AM

    “Verbal abuse” hurled at you for contacting Tribute, Jo-Anne? “Verbal abuse”? You kept saying over and over again “contact Tribute, contact Tribute if you don’t believe me” and I “teased” you about bombarding Tribute with emails. I knew someone was using many names on here and I still know it but when I found out it was Gina, I apologized to you Jo-Anne…I also apologized to Tribute. Here’s the thing though…you Jo-Anne, accepted my apology (or so you said) and this is twice now that you have thrown it back or…how would you say? Oh, used it as “ammo”. Hmmm…hypocrite much? All I did was email Tribute telling them all the names that Gina had used and told them that it was just so fake because she says one thing under one name and another thing under another name just to stir up sh!t with SEVERAL people. Tribute took it from there, I didn’t say “Oh ban her. Pull her IP address!”, as if I or anyone else commenting on here has that kind of pull, get a grip! I don’t “scan the posts looking for comments” from the people I cannot stand so that I can put them in their place. You said so yourself, that usually I am the first one to comment on the articles here….my comments don’t refer to anyone only the article…then Jo-Anne, yourself and NOW mandee the 24 year old come on and pick the hell out of my comment and gets the ball rolling. Of course, you all know that I will respond (you have all said it over and over again in your posts) because I don’t take sh!t from ANYONE…online or otherwise. It’s one thing to use multiple names, I could care less about that…it’s using multiple names AND multiple opinions just to cause sh!t!!! 😉

  96. Jo-Anne • April 12, 2009 @ 11:58 AM

    after I finish shaking in my boots –
    I mean how many times are you gonna tell us you don’t take sh!t from anyone? broken record….

    who are you trying to convince?

    yes, we all know you will respond, Lord knows that’s a given!!! Sure as the sun will rise, Nancy’s prescence will rise on Tribute…

    drum roll please ha ha

  97. Anon • April 12, 2009 @ 12:02 PM

    Well, well, well, that is quite the little tidbit, thanks for sharing. I have no problem owning up to the immature, and though I shouldn’t admit it, somewhat pleasurable posting I did under the following aliases: Gina, Blue Gina, Anonymous, Anon Trixxi and blue anon. I may have accidentally posted under ricky?, but not sure. I��d have to spend too much time backtracking the posts to know; maybe you can take on that task for us Nancy and clarify who I was when and at what time��.as well as where you were lol

    Given Nancy��s perfected skill, the amount of time she spends researching the archives as well as the position she feels she holds here, Archive Queen was no doubt her, it��s actually quite fitting. I��m sure she��s added a few names to discredit me further. But it��s really no big deal for me. In fact, I think you used jo’s name as well, after all it is all about teams is it not. And you did have everyone believing that any argument on here was somehow was directly linked to me which no doubt, raised everyone��s opinion of you��for a short period. Each one of us has a different approach, some of us have the ability to use words to get our message across while others look for different prospects if they lack the communication skills, especially when they��ve challenge someone and are then backed into a corner.

  98. Nancy • April 12, 2009 @ 12:40 PM

    Hahaha, I am in no corner, but it sounds like you are, Anon/Gina/whoever you are (you’ve even “said”, although I don’t think anyone believes you, that Gina is a co-worker of yours). Anyways, I just have a good memory, it doesn’t take long for me to find “proof” to at least back up the things I say, where’s your proof of what you and Jo-Anne spew? Oh, and you flat out admitted to posting under ricky, saying you couldn’t allow someone to talk to your daughter like that. You’re not fooling anyone ‘Gina’…especially not me.’Archive Queen’ was/is not me and I don’t have to post under other names for any reason let alone to “discredit” you, Jo-Anne or anyone else! “If you don’t believe me…contact Tribute” haha. How did I “have everyone believing on here” that any argument was directly linked to you and making myself look better? WTF are you on? I am no better and never claimed to be any better, than ANYONE else on here and you know it! So why do you seem to have me up on some kind of imaginary pedestal that you feel you need to knock me down from? You’ve even said something before about “knocking Nancy off her pedestal”…really, what are you on ‘Gina’? Who “challenged you”? The little aliens you see in your drunken stupor?

    Now for you, Jo-Anne….”as sure as the sun will rise”…you’ll be there too…replying again and again and complaining how Nancy keeps replying…”broken record” yes.

    Anyways, I’m off to spend the rest of this beautiful day with my babies!!

  99. Jo-Anne • April 12, 2009 @ 12:50 PM

    set your watches, people…”the rest of this day”….5 minutes, 10? ha ha

    hopefully the “wtf” will not be your Mommy Phrase of the Day…remember, options, options…

  100. mandee • April 12, 2009 @ 3:53 PM

    Nancy on April 12, 2009 11:01 AM

    accusing joanne of throwing things back in your face after you have apologized. “Hmmm��hypocrite much?” i apologized to you about that abuse comment i made towards you, i also apologized about something i said about your kids, and meanwhile here you are, STILL throwing it back in my face. more than once actually, on more than one article. if that isnt the pot calling the kettle black? and about the “wtf are you on gina?” comment, im sure its pretty clear to just about everyone on this site today, or any other day, that youre now just grabbing at straws. youve run out of things to say or do to defend yourself or try to make people look bad, so instead of just “letting it go” (hmm, you have accused joanne of never letting things go, but still you throw things in MY face that happened in the past that i apologized for) you instead look as far back into every post as you can to use other things that happened months ago, maybe even years ago to try to add fuel to this fire. from what i can tell, youre not “spending the rest of this beautiful day” with your “babies” youre probably just reading through the archives looking for more insignificant things to bash the 3 of us about. seriously, i havent posted to you today and you still drag my name in it? talk about needing a life outside of tribute! 😀

  101. lily • April 12, 2009 @ 8:40 PM

    I have no interest in this bizarrely intense e-war except to say that Mandee is WAY out of line, even for a 24 year old, when she tells Nancy:
    youre not �spending the rest of this beautiful day�� with your �babies�� youre probably just reading through the archives looking for more insignificant things to bash the 3 of us about.
    When a mom makes a really sweet comment about her children, and you suggest she’s lying, YOU are the one “bashing” someone, Mandee, and not about anything insignificant, either.
    Again, I have no interest at all in this weird fight and no feelings about whose right or wrong. I just think that was a horrible thing to say.

  102. Anon • April 12, 2009 @ 8:50 PM

    lily on April 12, 2009 8:40 PM

    Have to agree with you there lily, uncalled for at this point

  103. Jo-Anne • April 12, 2009 @ 9:10 PM

    sorry, guys, but I’m with Mandee, if maybe not on this exact phrase, with understanding where she is coming from

    Nancy’s sincerity about everything has been questionable AT BEST all along, I can’t even begin to emphasize how out of line she has been on so many occasions, downright vulgar and not at all what I would expect any mother who wanted to set a good example for her children, to represent…

    I believe she threw that line in about her babies for “sympathy vote” and speaking for myself, there is none…

    she has taken repeated pot shots at mandee and I, for one, can look beyond mandee’s comment as one that surfaces when all limits have been exhausted and you’ve had just about enough!!!

    Nancy pushed her limits months ago and yet somehow, too much of her offensiveness is constantly overlooked and triviliazed or just plain ignored when it should be seen for what it is…wrong

  104. lily • April 12, 2009 @ 10:03 PM

    Really not getting where your comming from here, Jo-Anne. Don’t see what Nancy writes on this site has to do with “settng a good example for her children” unless there sitting on her lap reading her words. Aren’t we all adults so can’t people talk however they want? to say someone is using her kids for a “sympathy vote” is super below the belt, in my opinion. Again, most of what your all arguing about doesn’t make any sense to me but I really think these insults about a total stranger’s relationship with her kids are disgusting.
    btw thanks anon for trying to be fair.

  105. Nancy • April 12, 2009 @ 10:04 PM

    Well, I did spend a great day with my kids whether you believe it or not. I really could care less what you believe and I most certainly wasn’t looking for or expecting “sympathy” from anyone. It has only been mandee, Jo-Anne, Anon and myself commenting…so, expecting sympathy really makes no sense on my part, does it? So Jo-Anne, do you think “all limits have been exhausted” and that I’ve had just about enough of you and your attitude? (Please refer to Jo-Anne’s “I don’t instigate, I’m innocent and it’s all Nancy’s fault” behaviour on the ‘Candy Spelling’ article).So Jo-Anne should just keep quiet about how I raise my children because I do a really good job working and raising my kids alone. As for you mandee, you gave a very “fake” apology. I’m not going to go back and get the comment for you, I remember it.”I’m sorry I said this but you should have said this and you shouldn’t have said that and you you you…” That’s NOT an apology. Not by a long shot. And I had said to you that “it looks like schizophrenia runs in your family” for 1 reason…because I had no clue what the heck you were talking about me saying things about you on other articles (the Julia Roberts article, you said afterwards), referring to you in my comment. You were all mad saying that I said something about you when all I did was reply to Jim. That’s why I said it must run in your family.

    Lily: Thank you. My kids are great and they had a very nice Easter.

  106. Anon • April 13, 2009 @ 12:30 AM

    lily on April 12, 2009 8:40 PM

    I think I may have spoken too soon….. I didn��t realize that mandee might have been right in regards to nancy spending today scrolling through past comments.

    “(Please refer to Jo-Anne��s �I don��t instigate, I��m innocent and it��s all Nancy��s fault�� behaviour on the ��Candy Spelling�� article)

    Also lily, I agree that this site has nothing whatsoever to do with nancy’s children or her parenting skills. BUT, neither does it have anything to do with mandee��s lifestyle, family member��s health issues or whether she is lazy underachiever that is �sponging�� off her family. During the entire time (could be years) that they have been talking to her and putting her down, do either of the two tributonians that continuously insult her know that she has no support at home, is belittled by family members and turns over most of her earnings leaving very little for her own goals. But, as repeated many times on this page, they have been very good friends to her and have gone out of their way to help her whenever they could.

    As for Nancy��s comments sounding sweet …well … The’re almost like sweetarts. If you suck on them long enough, you realize the inside is sour – Infamouse quotes on Tribute:
    Sponge,- leech – bltch, – schizophrenic, – @$$ kisser��, – dumbass, – anyone �with half a brain��, – WOW! I wonder who you are. Go take night courses or something. – You are such an anacronistic b!tch! – Hypocrite, Mandee, go to your Dr. and get some meds��seriously! Who even said ANYTHING to YOU? Everything needs to be explained to mandee like a 2 year old. – And you think I have problems��.you need a mirror��and a Dr. appt. – which is WHY I commented that �I think schizophrenia runs in your family�� – Can��t you EVER just �shut up��, Jo-Anne? – Sorry, but it sounds like schizophrenia runs in your family because I wasn��t referring to you in ANY other articles. – At least I don��t still live at home sponging off mommy and daddy! – idiot, scum, b*%tch, F**cking mutt

    And last but not least �- I just happen to be a very spiteful person, that��s all.��

  107. mandee • April 13, 2009 @ 1:55 AM

    lily, funny how you dont comment on how nancy feels the need to include my living arrangements or my sisters mental illness in your “below the belt” comments. i think if someone can bash my sisters mental illness, AND my living arrangements and things that have nothing to do with them, i can say that they are lying about spending time with their kids. the thing you and anon are forgetting is, we dont even KNOW nancy. for all we know she could be a 16 year old boy just bored and looking for something to do. so i dont see how im being “out of line” at all for assuming shes not telling the truth. and nancy, no i actually sincerely apologized about the abuse and im sure the children remark. and once again, i told you i mistook your comment on the julia roberts post. funny you remembered to throw that in my face, when i actually had forgotten all about it until you went looking and brought it back up. and joanne, thanks for seeing things through my eyes. i do believe that while she continues to drag me into things that have stopped being about ME i should be able to throw a “jab” if you will in about her. also, like i said, i dont personally know nancy, i could say i have kids and im married and im this and im that and you wouldnt know that none of it was true. so why should i take her word for it when she has shown me plenty of times shes not who she pretends to be half the time?

  108. Jo-Anne • April 13, 2009 @ 8:37 AM

    I stand by what I said, completely, Lily…
    too much water under the bridge where this individual is concerned to even try to explain..

    suffice to say, I strongly believe when a person’s inappropriate agressive behaviour surfaces repeatedly anywhere, yes, EVEN on a seemingly “harmless” website, some, and maybe even a lot of that behaviour “spills” over into their “real life”, so in regards to your children on the lap theory, that is not at all what I was implying…that’s utterly ridiculous

    In my opinion (and I believe I can still state my opinion) the mom’s unacceptable behaviour will in some adverse way affect those impressionable kids…and that’s where the “disgusting” part comes in…

    mandee, your last line is a winner…

  109. Anon • April 13, 2009 @ 11:32 AM

    What the heck….I submitted my comment last night but it wasn’t posted until this morning.

  110. lily • April 13, 2009 @ 1:46 PM

    omg anon, that second last paragraph is very unpleasant!!! To you, Jo-Anne and Mandee, yes of course I think ALL the insults about people’s families and personal lives are aweful. Attacking Nancy’s mothering just hit me harder cause I have my own babies, I guess, and they are my whole world. Anyways I have to say this argument feels b!tchy to me from all sides, so I’m out of it. Sorry i interrupted! I come on here for a break and all this fighting (especially the constant talking about stuff people said in the past) feels like work.

  111. Anon • April 13, 2009 @ 2:11 PM

    lily on April 13, 2009 1:46 PM

    omg anon, that second last paragraph is very unpleasant!!!

    Yes those comments are VERY UNPLEASANT, but they are quotes taken from the “archives”. So while I agree with you on refraining from personal insults about a total stranger, it needs to go all ways.

  112. mandee • April 13, 2009 @ 2:33 PM

    well, i really liked all of your posts joanne and anon. anon, i wish your comment had of shown up before mine, but i was not being rude or angry or anything when i posted the other comment. also, i really liked your “sweetarts” comment. 🙂

  113. Nancy • April 13, 2009 @ 2:42 PM

    Wow! While the cats away, the mice will play! 😛

    Hahahahaha… you are all not worth me spending Easter away from my kids to archive all your crap. And no Anon, I didn’t have to “archive” Jo’s comment on the Candy Spelling article because it was at the top of the front page and it was a comment she made that same day….PROVING that she thinks the worst of people. And then today on that same article, mandee came in with her big nose and blah, blah, blah….next it will be “I’m only 24 and the big, mean adults are still out to get me and won’t leave me alone!” As for you mandee, I don’t care WHO you think I am. I didn’t archive it, I have a brain and a memory. You didn’t give the apology you speak of here and I never said anything bad about your sister or any of your family, I spoke of schizophrenia which many people have…not just your sister. I said “It looks like schizophrenia runs in your family”…meaning to you, only because you accused me of something I did not do or say. It seems now though, that Jo-Anne and yourself have taken it upon yourselves to put ‘Janet’ down on the Candy Spelling article. She’s not even a regular on here, and it would seem that that article hit hard for her and you ridiculed her and thought the worst of her.

    Anon/Gina……..I can’t believe you’re speaking like that of Tributegirl! I haven’t even seen any comments from her on here in a couple of days and she DID NOT put mandee down at all. It’s one thing to spew this sh!t about me but to FLAT OUT LIE about others…???

    Oh, and to all 3 of you stooges (mandee, Jo-Anne and Anon/Gina)…nice going, I hope you’re happy that you’ve “bullied” yet another on here, being lily. And Jo, bullying seems to be your new hobby…what with Janet on one article, and Angie on another, and your constantly trying to degrade me about how often I come on this site, meanwhile, it’s been how many times for you just today alone, hypocrite? And, I notice YOU haven’t come to the defence of Tributegirl who has obviously been trying with you…and hasn’t even been on here for what, 2 or 3 days?

  114. Jo-Anne • April 13, 2009 @ 3:00 PM

    WOAH for someone who so “doesn’t care about us”….WOW….

    everything else you comment on is all, as usual, twisted, untrue and pathetically attempting, as usual, to cause sh!t…

  115. Anon • April 13, 2009 @ 3:04 PM

    Nancy on April 13, 2009 2:42 PM

    Oh, and to all 3 of you stooges (mandee, Jo-Anne and Anon/Gina)��nice going, I hope you��re happy that you��ve �bullied�� yet another on here, being lily.

    Way off here Nancy. I agree completely with lily and enjoy reading her comments, just like (for the most part) I enjoy reading yours. This whole argument is about boundaries. The point of my ‘unpleasant” post was not to shoot lily down, but to emphasize that while your comment about spending the day with your kids was an “innocent�� one, there is a history of some pretty nasty abuse from you; During which may I add you proclaim your innocence and go on about the injustice of people talking down to you while it��s obvious that your words to them go beyond above everyones.

  116. Anon • April 13, 2009 @ 3:19 PM

    Anon on April 13, 2009 3:04 PM

    Anon/Gina����..I can��t believe you��re speaking like that of Tributegirl! I haven��t even seen any comments from her on here in a couple of days and she DID NOT put mandee down at all. It��s one thing to spew this sh!t about me but to FLAT OUT LIE about others��???

    Oh cut the crap….don’t start trying to drag her back into this garbage. She’s done with it. She’s moved on to the next chapter and I highly doubt she wants to jump back on to your side of the pile. Give her a little credit: she’s smart enough to realize it’s not worth it.

  117. Anon • April 13, 2009 @ 3:32 PM

    hahahaha

    I meant to post this for nancy, not myself. Thank goodness for us computer savvy people eh? hahaha

  118. mandee • April 13, 2009 @ 3:50 PM

    “She��s not even a regular on here, and it would seem that that article hit hard for her and you ridiculed her and thought the worst of her.” youre lying again nancy. like i said on the candy spelling article, i made it pretty clear when i said �and i never said that janet did anything wrong, or didnt do anything wrong.�� that i wasnt even talking about janet, i was talking about how you mistook joannes comment because you cant read her tone. i also was not rude to you on that page. 🙂

  119. Nancy • April 13, 2009 @ 3:55 PM

    Read your own comment Anon, on April 13 @ 12:30 am.

    “do either of the two tributonians that continuously insult her know that she has no support at home, is belittled by family members and turns over most of her earnings leaving very little for her own goals. But, as repeated many times on this page, they have been very good friends to her and have gone out of their way to help her whenever they could.”

    Who’s trying to bring Tributegirl back into this? Who? I never said a word to or about her until you brought her up in your pack of lies ONCE AGAIN, and I only defended her as someone who hasn’t even been commenting. It was said before that I’ve never asked her to come to my aid and also never expected her to. I don’t expect her to or want her to now either BUT…you’re lying about her.

  120. Nancy • April 13, 2009 @ 4:08 PM

    Nah, you’re never “rude”, eh mandee? Just a leech waiting to jump for blood!

    Oh and if I put one of these in, I can just turn this “unrude” comment into a joke: 😛

  121. Anon • April 13, 2009 @ 4:11 PM

    Nancy on April 13, 2009 3:55 PM

    Actually, just like youself, I am using an example of what was said earlier. Is that ok or would you prefer this to be another double standard?

  122. Nancy • April 13, 2009 @ 4:37 PM

    No double standard, Gina. You love the drama, and you’re trying to drag Tributegirl in because she hasn’t commented for awhile. Why else would you bring her up and LIE about her? You don’t hear me saying “Oh where’s Mike, that Mr. Psychologist guy? He could make himself a very good living off all these nutcases here!!” I mean, you know….just to try to bring him into all this!! Hahahaha!

  123. Anon • April 13, 2009 @ 5:32 PM

    Nancy on April 13, 2009 4:37 PM

    You think you��ve got me pegged, but your way off.. I do love “the stir the pot” to get some pretty hot conversations going….but try to do it by leaving the other person with their dignity intact. This can be done by discrediting their comments, biased opinions or as we have here, calling them on their complete lack of respect for others. (This is not directed to anyone in particular right now)

    I��m not about to start going through all that damn �research�� again to quote everything tributegirl said. It��s really you that is trying to start something and your not going to suck me into trying to drag her down; especially when the real purpose of your challenge to me is to re-establish an alliance with her. lol She has abandoned you in this arena. My remarks were used as an example / reference and as I said earlier, I think tributegirl is a little smarter than you are giving her credit for at the moment. I think I made my point earlier in our conversations and to continue baiting her would make me no better than people I��ve pointed my finger at. As a matter of fact, that would make me someone intent on stripping another of their dignity, would it not?

  124. Nancy • April 13, 2009 @ 6:27 PM

    Tributegirl is smarter than I give her credit for at the moment? Yes, Tributegirl is very smart…always has been in my opinion and I am IN NO WAY trying to bring her OR anyone else into this. As for her “abandoning” me in “this arena”…??? If you’re trying to say she doesn’t want to get involved, well…she said she never did want to now OR before, so…??? You lost me there!! But yeah, keep stirring!! Have fun! See, YOU…yup, YOU brought her up and tried to bring her back in…lying about her while she’s not even here to defend herself…hoping she’ll come in all pissed off and boil over whatever is in that damn pot you keep stirring…then say “It’s really you that is trying to start something and your not going to suck me into trying to drag her down; especially when the real purpose of your challenge to me is to re-establish an alliance with her. lol.” Sure..?? And WHY would I want to or care for or if you “re-establish an alliance with her”? Have you been drinking again, Aprilshowers? 😉

  125. Anon • April 13, 2009 @ 6:56 PM

    Nancy on April 13, 2009 6:27 PM

    Hahahhahahahha I have a drinking problem now? Ahhahahahhaha I just choked on my coffee I laughed so hard lol

    Well�� I guess I’m done with this chapter as well. Your grasping at straws at this point; and this page, not to mention your comments, are becoming a bore . . . . until you posted this comment . Hahahahahahah Though, I��ve got to hand it to you, I��ve never met anyone as persistent as you are. hahahhahha Well, maybe my kids when they wanted something bad enough. hahahahhahaha

  126. Nancy • April 13, 2009 @ 7:35 PM

    I don’t believe I am “grasping at straws”. Au contraire!! I believe I’m pulling some nice big weeds here. I also never said you “have a drinking problem”, did I? I just remembered your several posts referring to yourself relaxing and having a couple, that’s all.

    Oh, and nice to see you don’t deny the ‘Aprilshowers’ thing. 😛

    Hurry up! Think up a good one. I mean, you are more intelligent, right?

  127. Nancy • April 13, 2009 @ 7:36 PM

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

  128. Anon • April 13, 2009 @ 11:18 PM

    Nancy on April 13, 2009 7:35 PM

    Aprilshowers = not me, I just assumed it was one of your attempts at humour or jab associated with the drinking comment. You surely must know by now that I don’t have a problem with admitting to the aliases and which ones belonged to me. As for belting back a few, maybe just a figure of speech that I don’t remember? More than likely not as I don’t drink though I probably should have a few before I start reading some of your comments lol

  129. mandee • April 13, 2009 @ 11:22 PM

    wow. nancy, you have been grabbing at straws in this article and the candy spelling one from the start. so i dont know who youre trying to convince. and im sure anyone that reads the candy spelling article already knows that im not a leech. and i never said i wasnt rude. thanks though for once again putting words under my fingers 🙂 queen nancy has spoken, youd better all bow down and kiss her feet if you dont want her to try to bash you too. seriously, im only still commenting because i know its bothering you, princess 🙂

  130. Nancy • April 13, 2009 @ 11:56 PM

    Hahahaha…sounds like you’re the one who’s bothered, mandee. Not a leech? Hmmm….

    Mandee, “and i never said i wasn’t rude. thanks though for once again putting words under my fingers”.
    Do you READ your comments at all or just type in your sleep, mandee? Look up, to today at 3:50 pm…”i also was not rude to you on that page”.

    DUH! LMFAO!

  131. mandee • April 14, 2009 @ 1:28 AM

    i meant i didnt say i was NEVER in my LIFE rude. i still stand by my statement that i was not rude to you on the candy spelling article. i was just pointing out that i thought you mistook joannes comments tone towards you. im not sure how that is considered rude?

  132. lily • April 14, 2009 @ 6:40 AM

    I went back and read the Candy Spelling article and I’m sorry, mandee, but it does really look like your friend Joanne started the whole argument for no reason other then picking on Nancy’s comment. After all, she’s not telling us to question YOUR family situation on other sites…and why would we? I just want to say I thought it was heartbraking when you told us how your parents talked to you (re getting a loan for school). I don’t have to start a “debate” on possible motives for your parents for saying that, I’m just saying strait out I think its sad and I support you. I think thats all Nancy was doing for Janet and I think thats the way people should act: NICE!

  133. mandee • April 14, 2009 @ 2:54 PM

    youre right, people should be nice. but clearly, they rarely are. and im not sure, but i think maybe you mistook joannes comment too. she even reworded it so nancy would understand that she wasnt referring to janets case, she was just stating that she isnt going to feel bad for ALL grandmothers that cant see their grandchildren because some deserve it. i watched one movie based on true events about a grandmother who coached her grandson to say that his mother was abusing him, his mother found the tapes at the grandmothers house and used it as proof. the courts still made her let her mother see the grandson. a year or so later, the grandmother (with the help from a company that tries to save abused children, as well as her other daughter) kidnapped her grandson and the only reason she got her son back was when her sister was arrested she caved and told her where the company was taking him. so, i agree, SOME grandmothers do not deserve to be near these kids, but some are also not allowed to see them for no good reason.

  134. Nancy • April 14, 2009 @ 4:16 PM

    She picked the hell outta my comment, and you know it! She purposefully “picked” at something I said just because it had the name ‘Nancy’ on it, so stop trying to sugar-coat it, mandee. Jeeze, that’s what I meant on the Candy Spelling article, people including myself can read, we have eyes and brains and we know what’s going on.

  135. lily • April 14, 2009 @ 4:43 PM

    I don’t want to hurt your feelings mandee but I think your own good heart is making you misread Joanne’s comment. Heres a copy of the part I’m bothered by:

    how can anyone say �it��s not right�� not knowing the complete true circumstances??

    Nancy had just said “it’s not right”. Now right away Joanne put it in quotes and asked how anyone could say that(with two question marks witch seems to stress the point). Yes, she added shes not talking about Janet after that but to me that didn’t really make sense after she just pointed to Nancys kind words IN QUOTES and questioned them.

    Holy cow (and go ahead and make fun of the way I talk, anyone who wants) this isn’t how I ment to spend my day off, but I’m getting stuck on this site lol!

  136. Jo-Anne • April 14, 2009 @ 9:27 PM

    thanks mandee, for understanding, I see you get it…

    how was your day by the way? I hope things are looking up for you.

  137. mandee • April 14, 2009 @ 9:48 PM

    no problem. nancy does the same quotation marks when she comments lily and no one jumps to defend joanne when she does it to her. my day was alright joanne, how was your day? im getting sick i think 🙁 which is no good. when i get sick, i get SICK! because i get sick soo rarely, when i do its terrible. last time i was sick it started the end of august and lasted almost 2 months. severe throat infection with bronchitis. so not looking forward to this! lol. i have 4 days this week, and one of them is an 8 1/2 hour shift. so its getting a bit better. hes cutting everyone out of the schedule to give me their days 🙂

  138. mandee • April 14, 2009 @ 9:52 PM

    oops, i forgot to include. lily, i mistook one of nancys comments on a julia roberts site because she used quotations around “respecting people” after i told her on a different site when she starts respecting people they will respect her. well, when i brought it up and accused her of trying to start things, she told me she was not she was talking to someone else about respect. so it is possible that both of you mistook joanne, when i can so easily mistake someone because they used quotations.

  139. lily • April 14, 2009 @ 10:04 PM

    I get the points your trying to make, mandee, but I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree. Thanks for making your explanations in such a nice way.

  140. mandee • April 14, 2009 @ 10:30 PM

    no problem. as long as youre respectful to me then ill be just as respectful to you 🙂

  141. Nancy • April 15, 2009 @ 1:22 AM

    I’m amazed she hasn’t already told you what an “idiot” she thinks you are, lily. That seems to be her favourite word to everyone. Tread lightly. I have to admit though that I am glad you finally got to see Jo-Anne’s true colours….I hope you understand my “@$$ kisser” comment now and why I told you it was all so fake?

    Mandee: there is a big difference between the comment on the Julia Roberts article that you just referred to and the comment Jo-Anne made on the Candy Spelling one. BIG difference. First of all, on the Julia Roberts article, Jim commented telling me that I was being very respectful. I commented back saying, “Well I’m not trying to be “respectful” to or for anyone, Jim”. Clearly I was referring back to Jim, wouldn’t you say?

  142. Jo-Anne • April 15, 2009 @ 7:45 AM

    thanks mandee, again, and no worries re what’s “happening” here – there’s some extremely obvious trying to get it going between these two…no explanation necessary on my account…truth be told I’d rather not keep explaining anything to them because they are accidentally on purpose putting a spin on it all…they’re not worth it…

    I am sorry to hear you are not feeling well, not a nice time of year to be getting sick when the weather is finally beginning to look up. My daughter just went through strep – brutal – hang in there…

  143. Nancy • April 15, 2009 @ 9:42 AM

    Oh, so let me get this straight, Jo-Anne….because lily didn’t agree with your “pick Nancy apart” comment, not backing you up on it because it was wrong, now you’re blaming HER as well as me, for “trying to get it going” and “accidentally on purpose putting a spin on it all”?

    Sure, like I said before…whatever you have to tell yourself.

    Gotta love those “true colours”!!

  144. Jo-Anne • April 15, 2009 @ 11:14 AM

    actually…I’m still not finished telling myself how much you care…

    let me savour this at least for an hour or two…buddy….

  145. mandee • April 15, 2009 @ 11:30 AM

    nancy, i save the “idiot” comment for people that do, in fact, act like idiots. im sure if anyone had said the same thing to me (or to joanne) that joanne said to lily (whatever article it was on that you so clearly stated you would defend anyone that was spoken to that way) you would have said nothing at all, or you would have added your snide comments to it. so, i do believe that makes you a “liar”. sorry i am jumbling everything together today on this article, but im sick and heading to lay down. just got in from handing out resumes. have a great day all.

  146. Nancy • April 15, 2009 @ 12:50 PM

    Exactly mandee! You “jumble everything together” EVERYDAY and always jump (leech) into things you know nothing about, ie: “whatever article it was on that you so clearly stated you would defend anyone that was spoken to that way. you would have said nothing at all, or you would have added your snide comments to it. so, i do believe that makes you a “liar”.” This is what I’ve been trying to tell you and exactly what you have been constantly denying doing!!!!! Oh, and FYI, the “article” in question that you have no clue which one it is but are spouting off about YET AGAIN, is the Mel Gibson divorce article, where Mel’s religion is mentioned throughout the article but, Jo-Anne believes (and is causing sh!t about it, YET AGAIN) that because lily mentioned the word “religious” in her comment that she was referring to Jo-Anne’s comment, and yes, I would have backed anyone on it TO anyone else (not just Jo-Anne) because it was mentioned in the article. What is it you keep telling me? Hmmmm…”so get your facts straight”.

  147. Jo-Anne • April 15, 2009 @ 12:53 PM

    good luck with your resumes, Mandee, and hope you feel better…

    and don’t let the “small” things get to you…I am beginning to see you are a far better person than that…

  148. mandee • April 15, 2009 @ 4:20 PM

    first of all nancy, thats the first time ive gotten things jumbled. second of all, im not like you i dont spend every day and every single minute reading through every single page, taking notes on who said what on what article. that seems to me like you need to find yourself a life. third, you ARE a liar. you would NEVER defend me or joanne if someone was treating us poorly. youve already proven that.

  149. Nancy • April 15, 2009 @ 4:35 PM

    You jumble things ALL the time, mandee and as for me needing “to find a life”…hypocritical of you, once AGAIN! As if I sit here taking notes on who said what and on what article! You see, some of us use our heads for more than a hatrack. It’s called a memory. I don’t sit here memorizing it or writing it down, I just have a good memory and don’t take drugs and rarely ever drink. I’m just the type of person who basically never had to study in school and still made top grades. As for defending you or Jo-Anne if someone was treating either of you poorly….that is NOT what I am/was doing in lily’s case. I was “defending” the fact that religion was brought up in the Mel Gibson article. Now this is the third time I’ve had to explain that to you!!!!! (5 exclamation marks…for Jo-Anne, my buddy) LMAO.

  150. mandee • April 15, 2009 @ 5:53 PM

    thanks joanne. sorry i didnt respond sooner, i had to go get my brother and then get supper. i only handed out like 3 resumes, then i was too sick to continue so i came home.

  151. Jo-Anne • April 15, 2009 @ 5:53 PM

    “taking notes” – priceless!!!

    and, it bears repeating, not only are you getting it more and more every day, mandee, your wit is really surfacing…

    I sense you may be bothered by some of this this, mandee, and that is unfortunate. Even though I view it as harmless chat, I see many comments aimed at you are far from just sarcasm and quite cruel and unnecessary, with intent to provoke you mainly, that’s for certain.

    Throughout all of our past “banter” I sensed quite often you were earnest and really enjoyed the fun chats, and respectful disagreements. I do feel badly if you felt I ever put you down and would like to apologize for that. I believe at that time I misread you and only saw the words you posted then, and not through the words to the real person, which is coming out clearer now.

    Try to put the other “stuff” here behind you, and continue your chat with the balance of people on here who are fun, interesting and witty. Don’t let it get to you. Not worth it…

    feel better soon.

  152. mandee • April 15, 2009 @ 6:01 PM

    thanks joanne. and im sorry for any comments i may have uttered that were disgustingly rude to you. i have a tendency of getting very very defensive when people are rude to me. ive always been like that. i know that as adults, we call all agree without the name calling, but some people (nancy in particular) sometimes really deserve it when they throw things in your face that was really none of their business in the first place. nancy, i do not even wear hats, so that comment clearly couldnt have been made at me. like i said, repeatedly, i am sick so i do not remember exactly WHICH article you chose to rant on about what. by the way, thats not really MY fault, because you rant and are rude on EVERY article. and again nancy, i think this is the 4th time ive explained this to you? if i posted about mels religion on that article and anyone in the whole world disagreed with me, i KNOW for a FACT that you would not step in and say anything about it. youd actually probably join in on it, only instead of leaving it at commets based on the article, youd throw in the fact that i live with my parents so that must make me “use my head for a hatrack”. i totally understand that you truly believe you are more intelligent, insightful, witty, realistic, charming, considerate, fair etc, than i am. but from what im seeing, you are clearly wrong. although i may not have as much hatred or bitterness inside of me as you do, i will admit that sometimes i stoop just as low as you and act immature and insult people. but this debate IS getting old, so why dont we just let it go? theres more to life than this.

  153. mandee • April 15, 2009 @ 6:07 PM

    im sorry, i meant disagree, not agree.

  154. Nancy • April 15, 2009 @ 7:41 PM

    “nancy, i do not even wear hats, so that comment clearly couldn’t have been made at me”

    Yes, this IS getting old, mandee. The “hatrack” comment was not made TO anyone…it is a figure of speech. Man, not everything is directed at you mandee. Everything is not about you. Oh, and yes, I am “intelligent, insightful, witty, realistic, charming, considerate, fair”…but I NEVER said I was more of those than you or anyone else, did I? I get defensive when people are rude to me too…by the looks of things here, we all do, lol. But, you saying it’s none of my business….you put it on here to start with. As for people “(nancy in particular)” deserving to be called names, you came on here when nothing was even said to you, calling me a ton of names, saying that I’m living proof that people DON’T change, saying I deserved to be abused, lying about an apology to that, etc., etc., etc. So, maybe you deserved what I said to you? I also don’t rant and be rude on “EVERY” article. I mostly just state my opinion on the article until the instigators, aka: leeches, come along. Now, 4th time for me too, mandee….I’ll emphasize real good this time, hopefully for the last time..? NO MATTER WHO WOULD HAVE BROUGHT UP MEL’S RELIGION, I WOULD HAVE MADE THE SAME COMMENT…IT WAS IN THE ARTICLE, SO IT WASN’T BASED ON ANYONE’S COMMENT. And for the record mandee, I have defended you many, many times.

  155. mandee • April 15, 2009 @ 8:29 PM

    “Man, not everything is directed at you” perhaps you should take some of your own advice? in the candy spelling article, i pointed out how clearly joanne was NOT talking about YOU and you continued to go on and on and on about how she was to. i also wonder how you can make sure rude comments, clearly directed at someone specific and then say “it was not directed to anyone” but anyway, you defended me when i was on your “team” i doubt youd defend me now if anyone said anything to or about me. and if you did, id wonder why, considering all the stuff you said to me recently. and youre right, i did come on talking about you and saying how people “dont change” and you really ARE proof of that. you still havent left joanne alone. lol.

  156. Nancy • April 15, 2009 @ 8:56 PM

    Mandee:

    #1 – I didn’t defend lily because someone said something to or about her….what I’m saying is that it was IN THE ARTICLE, not any particular comment.

    #2 – Jo-Anne AND YOU, obviously don’t want to be left alone or you would both stop causing sh!t.

    #3 – It is VERY clear that Jo-Anne’s comment on the Candy Spelling article is directed right at me…and others have noticed it as well. You are just blinded by it because you have switched over to Jo-Anne’s “team”.

    #4 – Please tell me which “rude comments” I “clearly directed at someone specific” and then said “it was not directed to anyone”. You see, everyone on here knows how direct and blunt I am. If I have something to say, I say it and I have absolutely no problem putting the name of someone on/in a comment. I feel you’re still rambling on about my comment TO JIM on the Julia Roberts article which you feel was directed at you. That’s called paranoia.

    #5 – If someone said stuff about you on here mandee, the way you act, I’d probably just sit back and enjoy the show. Make some popcorn, mix a peach iced tea crystal light stick in my bottled water, kick back and enjoy the show. LMAO!

    Hey, I thought you wanted this to end? 😉

  157. Jo-Anne • April 15, 2009 @ 9:04 PM

    her obsession with me, albeit suffocating, is the ONLY way she can relate to me…I accept that Mandee – we are not dealing with your average web poster here, this one thrives on bitterness, agression and blames “the system” for everything that has happened to her…it’s classic not accepting responsibility for her own choices.

    Don’t worry about her or her “team” – (ha ha, like that) wearing me down. My regard for them is they are nothing more than…well, nothing.

    keep smiling! good weekend ahead.

  158. mandee • April 15, 2009 @ 9:55 PM

    “I feel you��re still rambling on about my comment TO JIM on the Julia Roberts article which you feel was directed at you. That��s called paranoia.” actually, i was still referring to the “hatrack” comment that was apparently directed at “no one” meanwhile it was in the same paragraph you were talking to me in. also, you really ARE an “idiot” i clearly know you were talking about religion which is why i said “if i posted about mels religion on that article and anyone in the whole world disagreed with me, i KNOW for a FACT that you would not step in and say anything about it. youd actually probably join in on it”. what part of that did you once again MISTAKE to mean that i assumed you were defending her for any other reason? and youre right, i said this is getting old, anytime you wanna walk away, feel free. i dont care about the other comments you said in that rant, they were all pretty petty.

  159. Nancy • April 15, 2009 @ 10:23 PM

    Think what you want mandee. “Using your head for more than a hatrack” is a very common phrase and if I had directed it to you I would have specifically said, BUT I DIDN’T…let’s get that straight before I even say what I would have said if I were directing it to you, okay. I “would have” said “Unlike you mandee, I use my head for more than a hatrack.” Like I said, when I have something to say to a person, I say it and you can be damn sure I’ll put their name in it! So, in all reality, there is only one “idiot” here, mandee. You know nothing “for a fact”, mandee. How many times do I have to write this for you? If you had made the comment that lily made, and what you wrote was in the article and someone, anyone, attacked you like Jo did to lily, I WOULD defend your comment. Jo did not just “disagree” with lily’s comment.

    As for you Jo-Anne, hahahahaha, I’ve never “blamed the system” for my choices in any part of my life, ever. So why don’t you back up your BIG mouth with some proof. LMAO. You can’t because I’ve always taken responsibility for my own choices and I am very independent and don’t need to rely on anyone for any reason and THAT and the fact that I work and raise my kids all by myself is what really gets you. You can’t admit that you’ve had me pegged all wrong all this time and that I am the last person who would ever back down from you. You’ve done nothing but put me down about what kind of parent you “think” I am when in all reality, you’re just jealous because you know that you could never do it alone. And that is what this is all about…you know it, I know it, anyone reading this knows it.

  160. mandee • April 15, 2009 @ 10:38 PM

    funny how you are dragging joannes family life into this situation. you dont know if shes married or if shes single and raised her kids on her own. what is it with you and dragging in families and things that are out of our control? does this make you feel like a “bigger” person? and you dont need to “explain” anything to me, like i said i DO know how to read between the lines. i am, pretty obviously not stupid. so you can keep saying “i will explain this to you again mandee” and it will make no difference. my opinion will stay the same, until you have given me a reason to think otherwise. and constantly insulting me and telling me how you have to “explain” everything is definitely not going to change my opinion of you for the better. and good for you, im glad you were strong enough to raise your kids on your own. youre right, a lot of single parents are unable to cope with or deal with that type of thing. i hope when i have kids, i can do it by myself as well because i cant stand anyone long enough to keep them around. (i mean, like partner wise)

  161. Nancy • April 15, 2009 @ 10:49 PM

    Read Jo-Anne’s comment at 9:04 pm before blaming ME for “dragging joannes family life into this situation”. It seems I do have to “explain” everything to you. BTW, Jo-Anne has stated on here several times that she is married. She has also attempted to criticize my parenting skills countless times…and you know that.

  162. Nancy • April 15, 2009 @ 10:59 PM

    Also, I absolutely love being single, mandee. Anyone can do it. It is hard, I mean, you can’t just leave and go for coffee or whatever to get away from it for awhile but, you get twice the love! I only wish for my kids sake that they had 2 loving parents but personally, I love my independence too much, lol. Anyways, bedtime for me. We should really get paid for this “soap opera for the hearing impaired”, shouldn’t we? 😀

  163. Anon • April 16, 2009 @ 9:44 AM

    Nancy on April 15, 2009 10:59 PM

    We should really get paid for this �soap opera for the hearing impaired��, shouldn��t we?

    A couple of free movie passes at the very least!

  164. Jo-Anne • April 16, 2009 @ 11:46 AM

    I am jealous of you for raising your kids on your own?? Wow. And because you have a job??
    Double Wow.

    For the record, I was out on my own, my choice at 16 years old, have never been without a job, still hold 2 jobs, have never had to rely on my folks for anything (even though they would willingly provide it), have alwyas chosen the independent route to take care of myself and my family, as does my partner, and would have absolutely no hardship at all should I ever have decided to raise my children by myself, due to hard work and planning ahead.

    My choice to stay with a partner prompts you to repeatedly accuse me of being jealous of your sole parenting? You really do have issues…

  165. mandee • April 16, 2009 @ 12:18 PM

    nancy, i meant to include in that last comment when i was talking about how you talk about other peoples families and situations, that you dont like it when we do it to you. lol, cant believe i got off track soo easily. and, thats true. when youre a single parent you CANT just leave. which must be hard sometimes. i know sometimes with my niece i have to make her go back to her mother lol. i dont think it would be any different if she wasnt autistic. sometimes kids are just too much 😛 and yes, i dont see why we dont get paid, we are basically celebrities ourselves these days! wheres our 12 million?

  166. Nancy • April 16, 2009 @ 12:31 PM

    No Jo-Anne, your accusations about my life and my parenting prompts me to accuse you of jealousy. I could care less about your choices and if you cared less about mine, which you keep insisting that you do, you wouldn’t keep writing about them. 😛

  167. Jo-Anne • April 16, 2009 @ 1:01 PM

    it’s wierd how you jump to “jealousy” rather than “concern” which is the word I used mre than once on here…you wear this single parenting thing like a medal and it’s worn really thin, in my opinion…no, your “conclusion” (as always, yawn) is twisted as you WANT to BELIEVE I have some form of envy for you….that’s really dillusional Nancy and actually, quite pitiful…

    what I said re your “parenting”…

    “suffice to say, I strongly believe when a person��s inappropriate agressive behaviour surfaces repeatedly anywhere, yes, EVEN on a seemingly �harmless�� website, some, and maybe even a lot of that behaviour �spills�� over into their �real life��…

    In my opinion (and I believe I can still state my opinion) the mom��s unacceptable behaviour will in some adverse way affect those impressionable kids��

    and, for the record, I feel that way with regards to ANYONE exhibiting overtly strong agressive inappropriate traits such as yourself on this website…

    you talk about having to repeat things over and over…shall I cut and paste this for future reference to you as I know you will bring the same thing up yet again…same acusations…same “blindness” to what I am actually writing…

    oh wait, I am sure your walls are wallpapered with my posts and you can pinpoint my remark’s in a heartbeat…

    you keep ridiculing everyone on here of responding to your accusations…here’s a tip, maybe stop “begging” for responses by twisting other’s comments, thereby provoking feedback….

  168. moondog • April 16, 2009 @ 3:15 PM

    �suffice to say, I strongly believe when a person��s inappropriate agressive behaviour surfaces repeatedly anywhere, yes, EVEN on a seemingly �harmless�� website, some, and maybe even a lot of that behaviour �spills�� over into their �real life����

    In my opinion (and I believe I can still state my opinion) the mom��s unacceptable behaviour will in some adverse way affect those impressionable kids��

    so mandee prolly calls her niece idiot all the time is that what ur saying?

  169. mandee • April 16, 2009 @ 3:28 PM

    first of all, joanne wasnt talking about ME, second of all, shut your mouth about my niece. she has nothing to do with your or anyone else on this site, i only bring her up because i dont have children of my own. that was completely uncalled for, and if you want to be a part of this conversation how about you leave young children you know nothing about out of it? this is one line you DO NOT want to cross with me. i can guarantee you i WILL say very mean, horrible things to and about you if you continue to venture down this road moondog. the conversation that jo and nancy are having has nothing to do with me or my family. and i dont call EVERYONE an “idiot” only those of you that act like one.

  170. Nancy • April 16, 2009 @ 4:48 PM

    I would have leaned more towards saying that I hope Jo-Anne’s children are nowhere near 6 feet tall….she might have called them “freaks” all their lives, LOL. That “concerns” me! She talks about me swearing….well in one of her posts above, she said “sh!t”. She basically told me the other day on the Harry Potter Marijuana Plant article, that I never did fun stuff with my kids that day, that I stole a page from Carol Brady’s book..?? When I always speak of good things about my kids she keeps INSISTING however, that I am a bad parent…then claims that I am the one who does the “twisting” of the comments, “thereby provoking feedback…” What a joke! To “provoke feedback” from you, wouldn’t you have to care?

  171. Nancy • April 16, 2009 @ 5:05 PM

    Mandee to moondog:

    “and if you want to be a part of this conversation how about you leave young children you know nothing about out of it?”

    That phrase should actually be directed to Jo-Anne as well.

  172. moondog • April 16, 2009 @ 8:10 PM

    oow,mean horrible things,im scared! bring it idiot

  173. mandee • April 16, 2009 @ 9:55 PM

    moondog, first of all, if youre going to insult someone try to be more unique instead of stealing THEIR word 😛 and second of all, shut up. and ok nancy, i agree that that comment is directed at EVERYONE. (i havent been on any harry potter articles in a while) seriously, lets leave the kids out of it from now on. i dont see the point in dragging in young kids, no one found it funny when jamie did it to miley. 😛

  174. Jo-Anne • April 16, 2009 @ 9:57 PM

    moondog, you’re like one of those fence sitters that finally decides to put in their two cents (in your case one cent) worth long after the curtain has come down…

    you shoulda stayed in your seat and just “enjoyed the show” or better yet, left the theatre with your cut and paste moment and cherished it on your bike ride home…with Nancy on the back reciting Jo’s entire posts for 2008/9 word for word…

    getting a visual here….ha ha extra ha

  175. Nancy • April 16, 2009 @ 10:23 PM

    Jo-Anne….again, you sound p’d that I have you figured out. You know, how you keep trying to turn your “fixation” into…what was it you called it, “concern”? I have better things to do than “recite” ALL your posts but, I do supply proof when need be. More than I can say for the pack of lies you keep telling! 😀

  176. Anon • April 16, 2009 @ 10:45 PM

    Jo-Anne on April 16, 2009 9:57 PM

    haha This has got to be the funniest comment that I’ve read in quite awhile. You are quite the sly one.

  177. Anon • April 16, 2009 @ 10:46 PM

    Nancy on April 16, 2009 10:23 PM

    She really nailed you both with that one hahaha

  178. Anon • April 16, 2009 @ 10:49 PM

    Jo-Anne on April 16, 2009 9:57 PM

    I’m at the office trying to get caught up and gave into the impulse….just can’t stay away. Glad I didn’t or I would have missed this one priceless!

  179. Nancy • April 17, 2009 @ 8:38 AM

    Well I can read between the lines, and I am not moondog and have no clue who is. So actually, she didn’t “nail” me at all now, did she Gina? You see, you are the queen of using multiple names, not me.

  180. Anon • April 17, 2009 @ 9:50 AM

    Nancy on April 17, 2009 8:38 AM

    Oh come on now. Had she directed that comment to anyone else, you would be “LYFAO”

  181. Jo-Anne • April 17, 2009 @ 10:39 AM

    Thanks Anon!
    with so much “material” here, it’s hard to resist…

  182. Nancy • April 17, 2009 @ 12:48 PM

    Yeah, and 90% of it is your “drivel”, Jo-Anne!!

    Anon, so now you think you “know” what I would do? Was I “LMFAO” to Moondog’s comment?

    Oh I almost forgot, “LMFAO”!! And, my kids and their granny would like to thank you for your “concern”, Jo-Anne….click my name. 😛

  183. mandee • April 18, 2009 @ 12:55 AM

    thats not very nice(the video), nancy. lol. but it was pretty funny none the less.

  184. Nancy • April 18, 2009 @ 3:53 PM

    Hahahaha…I thought it was very fitting considering Jo’s fixation on my family! 😀

  185. Nancy • April 18, 2009 @ 3:54 PM

    Gotta love Youtube, eh?

  186. mandee • April 18, 2009 @ 7:19 PM

    i do love youtube most of the time actually. 🙂 its surprising because when i first started going there, i hated it.

  187. mandee • April 18, 2009 @ 7:26 PM

    im going to see monsters vs aliens 3d tonight!!!! im so excited lol. its terrible. i have the WORST taste in movies. ANYTHING 3d, i love most kids movies, horror and romance. i dont really like comedy usually, or action. although i have a few exceptions to that. have any of you saw monsters vs aliens 3d?

  188. moondog • April 18, 2009 @ 7:40 PM

    only on here..

  189. Nancy • April 18, 2009 @ 8:24 PM

    I haven’t. I LOVE horror movies and comedies and will probably rent something on VOD tonight…was quite satisfied re-watching Jeepers Creepers 2 last night on the Scream channel. My kids might be able to convince me to buy the Monsters vs Aliens 3-D dvd in a couple months…I still have the Hannah Montana 3-D glasses that I bought at Walmart for The Best of Both Worlds that they forced me to endure. I bet I looked real cute wearing those! 😛

  190. mandee • April 19, 2009 @ 1:40 AM

    ohh no !!! lol!!! i have the 3d glasses from the hannah montana best of both worlds that my NIECE made me watch with her!!! ha ha ha!! it wasnt THAT 3d 😛 monsters vs aliens was cute. not as great as say, lilo and stitch, but still cute. i havent missed a 3d one yet. i love it in theatres in 3d!!! i didnt really like jeepers creepers 2, but i sure liked the first one. i also reallly reallly liked the scream trilogy. ha ha. some horror movies are great, even when they are lame.

  191. Nancy • April 19, 2009 @ 3:29 PM

    Well, we rented ‘Yes Man’ with Jim Carrey last night….my daughter picked it. It sucked! My kids can never agree on which movie to pick. It was narrowed down to Yes Man and Lakeview Terrace (which I really want to see). I always have to write down a number and let them guess at it until someone gets it right…my daughter won AGAIN, that’s twice in a row for her. Time to let someone else do the picking.

  192. mandee • April 19, 2009 @ 7:10 PM

    aww yes man sucked? thats no good. i really wanted to see that movie! 🙁 lakeview terrace was pretty good. i really liked it when i saw it. one of my newest favourite movies is nick and norahs infinite playlist. but its more of a teenager movie, or i would recommend it to you. have you saw what happens in vegas? im surprised ashton kutcher did that one and just married when they are sooo similar. i did like just married better than what happens in vegas, but both were really cute if you like any type of romance. have you saw any of the saw ones? i saw every single one of them in theatres, really unimpressed with saw5.

  193. Nancy • April 19, 2009 @ 8:20 PM

    I’ve only watched the first Saw, never saw Nick and Norah’s Infinite Playlist, did see What Happens in Vegas. My sister sent me that Saw 5 phonecall thing that freaked a bunch of people out…too bad it was my daughter who answered the phone, hahahaha. We were hoping that movie ‘Taken’ would have been on VOD but it wasn’t, maybe next time.

  194. mandee • April 19, 2009 @ 8:35 PM

    i havent saw taken yet, im waiting for it to come out on dvd. did it scare your daughter? lol thats actually pretty funny. i liked all of the saws until 5. i think when you over play something, it eventually hits a downward spiral. well number 5 is that downward spiral, no doubt.

  195. Nancy • April 19, 2009 @ 9:01 PM

    No way! She loved it! She’s just like me, loves horrors and comedies. Has watched all the Halloween’s, Scream’s, Friday the 13th’s, Nightmare on Elm Streets, etc., etc.

  196. mandee • April 19, 2009 @ 10:40 PM

    me too. i actually have movie-a-thons smetimes that are just scary movies that have more than one sequel. i really loved childs play when i was younger. nightmare on elm street is still one of my faves. i think they should make a haunted house at canadas wonderland for fearfest that is the house from elm street with freddy chasing you. that would be so much fun. lol. i dont get scared by anything though. so its kinda sad for me. i wish i could get that thrill. would make it all that much better. i loved signs with mel gibson. i love alien movies, but i get motion sick easily, so no shakey cameras 🙁

  197. Nancy • April 20, 2009 @ 12:32 AM

    LOL. My daughter LOVES Childs Play! She does get scared though but she just can’t resist watching them. I can’t blame her, my mom loves horror movies too and she and I used to sit up in the dark and watch them when I was a kid. I’d stay up after she went to bed and sit and watch alone. FUN! I don’t like watching the same movie over and over though.

  198. mandee • April 21, 2009 @ 1:18 PM

    i watched the big bang theory yesterday. it wasnt that bad, some parts were kind of funny. like “bromance” ive also recently began watching here and there gary unmarried. watched it yesterday because it was on right after the big bang theory. i really like the one guy from that show, the one that the motorcycle fell on. he used to play on roseanne. i love the old shows, roseanne, grace under fire, growing pains, etc. but, i do not watch tv enough to watch any of them. im trying to watch more tv and be online less, because the computer gets too obsessive sometimes.


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