Britain’s Got Talent receives complaints

By Alexandra Heilbron on June 4, 2009 | 198 Comments


hollie_steelOfcom, the independent regulator and competition authority for the UK communications industries, has received hundreds of complaints about Britain’s Got Talent. After the semi-final, 331 viewers called to complain about 10-year-old singer Hollie Steel. More than half were annoyed that the little girl, who began crying when her voice cracked, then pleaded for a “do-over” and howled even louder when she was told there was no time, got a second chance to perform after judge Simon Cowell spoke up and said they’d make time. Ofcom said around 50 complaints were about the welfare of the young singer. The incident has sparked a debate in Britain about whether children should be allowed to compete in televised competitions — many feel the pressure is too much at a young age. Only about 20 were concerned that Susan Boyle was treated unfairly. However, Britain’s Got Talent judge Amanda Holden said it wasn’t the show that “stressed out” Susan Boyle, but rather the “falsehoods” written about her. America’s Got Talent kicks off with a two-hour season premiere on Tuesday, June 23, with judges Piers Morgan, David Hasselhoff and Sharon Osbourne.



Comments & Discussion

  1. tributegirl • June 4, 2009 @ 2:29 PM

    Well, I think 10 years old is too young to be able to handle the pressure, and I think it\’s the parents of the child who should realize that and wait until the child is older.

    This new security code is a little weird, it keeps going back to the first number it was at when I got on here today, and when I type it in, it says it was wrong. Plus, when I submit it, it puts a slash wherever I have an apostrophe, which is weird. I caught it this time, I think.

  2. tributegirl • June 4, 2009 @ 2:29 PM

    Apparently not.

  3. Carol • June 4, 2009 @ 8:47 PM

    I agree tributegirl. 10 is far too young, and if kids are going to be put in showbiz, then they don’t get do-overs. It’s a tough life, and may as well teach them early because if they can’t handle something small like that, then they won’t be able to handle the bigger stuff that may come. And at 10, how does a child be tough enough to handle that pressure? Generally they can’t, so their parents should let them sing or do what makes them happy, but have time to learn how to deal with harsh critisms away from millions of viewers.

  4. mandee • June 5, 2009 @ 12:05 AM

    that was really nice of simon. whats with him these days?

  5. Anon • June 5, 2009 @ 10:54 AM

    Who cares?? Who are these idiots that are complaining? She’s ten for crying out loud! I’d let her re-do as well. If all can make concessions for Boyles behaviour, why the intolerance for a 10 yr old kid? And for those commenting on how she should learn to deal with these disappointments, have you been watching American Idol or You Think You Can Dance? They are adults and break down on camera once eliminated. My kids cried if I left the grocery store without chocolate bars. But I imagine all yours would have handled themselves with the grace of woman. Such foolish comments – especially coming from those with kids!

  6. mandee • June 5, 2009 @ 12:43 PM

    i was only wondering why simons being nice because no one else was going to let her have a redo. yes, she should have been allowed in the first place, but i think its strange and backward that SIMON was the one to say we will find the time go ahead and try. normally, wouldnt it be simon that refused and someone else agree to a redo?

  7. tributegirl • June 5, 2009 @ 1:13 PM

    Agreed, mandee, Simon has really been acting out of character lately! Gina, what foolish comments are you talking about?

  8. Jo-Anne • June 5, 2009 @ 1:36 PM

    Anon, I couldn’t agree more….

  9. Nancy • June 5, 2009 @ 4:21 PM

    No shocker there…

  10. Carol • June 5, 2009 @ 8:31 PM

    Anon/Gina, I disagree. I think that if people are going to be in the public eye, they may break down. Kids do need to learn disappointments, that is how they learn to deal. But if everything is a do-over, what are we teaching them.
    The word “NO” has got to be taught to our children, and if they cry, too bad. Some day we won’t be here to cradle them when they hear that big bad word, then what will happen to them?

  11. Jo-Anne • June 5, 2009 @ 8:40 PM

    well, hopefully by the time they say become…older than ten…perhaps adults, cradling may be behind them…I say at ten, in circumstances such as these…cradle away…

  12. Anon • June 5, 2009 @ 11:37 PM

    Carol on June 5, 2009 8:31 PM

    Just want to make sure that we’re both talking about the same thing…. a 10 yr old that they made an exception for. How did Boyle manage to tug at your heart strings yet the kid can’t? I understand kids learning the word no, but tell me, if you request a raise, how far does the no go for you? Or how about an interview that starts off on a bad note, do you write it off, or do you explain your nervousness and try to restart? Nothing in life is black and white and there is always an exception. Honestly, I couldn��t imagine my kid��s lives if every no always meant no. I��ve taught my kids to never take no if you want something bad enough. A little example for you: My daughter recently auditioned for a role in a musical called Into the Woods. The role she wanted, she didn��t get. She didn��t walk off the stage when they said sorry. She asked to audition for other roles. She didn��t accept the �no��. She did eventually prove to be a perfect fit for Little Red and both she and the producers are all very happy with the result. So in my eyes, Hollie did exactly what she should have done. This was a great lesson for her and hopefully she will develop the appropriate skills and approach needed to accomplish what she wants. If your response to me is going to be an example of where you tell your kid no, she cant go to a friends yada yada yada ….don��t bother, it��s irrelevant to this situation.

  13. Nancy • June 5, 2009 @ 11:49 PM

    Hmmm…that’s a little hypocritical wouldn’t you say, Anon/Gina? I mean, you gave an example of how your child shouldn’t take no for an answer in your response to Carol…why should she not “bother” to speak of what she teaches her child? And for the record, I say “No” to my kids too…and they accept it for what it is. Oh sure, they try to convince me otherwise but when I say no, it’s no. I’ll use your “chocolate bar from the grocery store” example…if my kids “behave” in the grocery store, they might get a treat…if they don’t, “No”. Now, I am glad though and I do agree with this girl being given a second chance…this is something much bigger than being told no over a chocolate bar, LOL.

  14. Anon • June 6, 2009 @ 12:04 AM

    Nancy on June 5, 2009 11:49 PM

    Oh for god��s sake, read my last line!!

    If your response to me is going to be an example of where you tell your kid no, she cant go to a friends yada yada yada ��.don��t bother, it��s irrelevant to this situation.

    I thought we were talking about this kid, this situation and how she needs to take the bad with the good. Not about your kid or my kid at the grocery store, or going to a friends …… Carol didn’t tell us what she personally teaches her kid, just what kids need to be taught in general. All I’m saying is that the kid had an opportunity and she wasn’t about to let it go easily, and rightfully so. If she was older and wiser, she could have flirted her way into a second chance but at 10, she hasn’t developed a whole lot of communication skills, so crying and begging was her only way. And Simon was smart enough to see it.

  15. Nancy • June 6, 2009 @ 12:10 AM

    I DID read your last line and I do understand what you are saying, but if Carol wants to “bother” she can…as you did…also as I did. Go ahead Carol…let it out if you want to! LOL. 😀

  16. Anon • June 6, 2009 @ 12:15 AM

    Don’t you dare Carol, I just said NO!
    lol

  17. Anon • June 6, 2009 @ 12:17 AM

    FYI
    There have been many times over the years that I have said no because I was in a bad mood etc and have humbly taken many no’s back. And now years later with my kids on their way out into the world, I can honestly say they��ve turned out pretty damn good. So the no means no theory is bull. Your kids can learn values through explanations a lot better than the firm �no�� and always sticking to your guns.

  18. Anon • June 6, 2009 @ 12:45 AM

    tributegirl on June 5, 2009 1:13 PM
    Gina, what foolish comments are you talking about?

    Comments on how a 10 yr old should be conducting herself in this type of situation.

  19. tributegirl • June 6, 2009 @ 11:19 AM

    Ok, well, when you said that, I hadn’t seen many of these types of comments yet. My opinion was that parents shouldn’t be putting their young kids in these types of situations, or at least try to prepare them for disappointment. Example, my daughter got her first job a while ago, I helped prepare her for all the “jerks” out there who she would definitely end up waiting on at some point or other. Sure enough, it happened, and she was fully prepared. I know the child in this article is 10, and my daughter is 16, but I still think the parents should prepare their child no matter what age, if they are going to put them in these situations. If they don’t prepare them, then the child is not going to handle disappointment well, and that’s not fair.
    Man, it’s hard typing with a kitten on my lap playing with the keyboard!

  20. Carol • June 7, 2009 @ 9:54 AM

    They do have to learn no, and yes, tributegirl, if you are going to put them in this position, try to toughen them up first. What you did with your daughter is good. My first “negative” client 18 years ago put me in tears,I was not prepared, but it made me ready for the next one. (thankfully they are few and far between) If she is not good enough, or too nervous to do what she (and her guardians) appear to set her out to do, then maybe she is not cut out for it.
    Anon, go buy your kids a chocolate bar, say no and give in, that is nothing major in and by itself, but if you say no and give in all the time, what are you teaching your kids? And if it is a major life event like this, then they have to be prepared for the worst. Life sucks sometimes, as parents we need to do our best to try to teach them, and when our words fall on deaf ears, all we can do is be there and console, but not everything in life is a do-over if it doesn’t go your way.
    Susan Boyle didn’t get a do-over. The two situations were totally different, so if you are going to compare to make a point, Anon, lets compare apples to apples, please.
    Anon/Gina, not trying to convince you, but this is my opinion. You can do with your kids whatever you like. I’m with Nancy, if I go into a store and my daughter wants a treat, sure, but if she acts up or I don’t have the money, then the answer is a firm NO! I didn’t grow up rich, but I grew up in a family that loved me, and I did hear no a lot, but I worked hard, I have things I wanted, there are things I can’t have that I want…I’d love to be a dancer, but it I got out there, didn’t do well and Simon told me (which I know he would tell me my dancing stinks), then I wouldn’t ask for a do-over. I’d probably go home, cry, sulk for awhile, and move on, hopefully stronger from the experience.

  21. Anon • June 7, 2009 @ 3:02 PM

    Carol on June 7, 2009 9:54 AM

    The two situations were totally different, so if you are going to compare to make a point, Anon, lets compare apples to apples, please.

    hahha that was too funny!! You’re comparing apples to apples??? Please, why don’t you re-read your comments. You are comparing disciplining your kids to this situation…like comparing your husband saying no, we can’t afford the new vehicle to no, you can’t have a raise! hahaha For the record, nowhere did I say that I bought my kids the chocolate bar after I said no. So, re-read my comments as well. And by the way, you’re not with Nancy on THIS situation as she shares my sentiments on whether she should have been allowed to start over. And, if you feel you should teach your kid to limit herself and not go for the carrot dangling in front of her, it��s your business. But seriously, I really don��t need or care for the parenting lesson, especially when you��re reading completely different book. By the way, your comparisons are laughable lol And your little sentimental comments about the wonderful childhood and the virtuous person you have become and how quickly you gave up on your �dance�� career, quite frankly don��t impress me much. If that was my daughter��s passion, she would be back the next day, that��s how you get what you want in life, like you said, you work for it. Yours is a weakness I hope I never see in my kids. It could be that you lacked the passion, commitment, drive and persistence to reach out to the opportunities that presented themselves to you. Or maybe you seriously sucked at dancing and didn��t merit the second chance that Simon obviously felt this young lady deserved.

  22. Nancy • June 7, 2009 @ 3:53 PM

    My words were “I am glad though and I do agree with this girl being given a second chance…this is something much bigger than being told no over a chocolate bar, LOL.”

    I have a soft spot for kids, I’m sure I’m not alone there BUT in all fairness, what Carol and Tributegirl are saying is correct too…she does need to learn and get a thicker skin and if Susan Boyle or any of the other contestants on Britain’s Got Talent had asked for a “do-over”….well, fairs fair, right?

    Personally, I’m the type of person who goes after what I want but when rejected or given a firm “No” I don’t cry about it either, I just open another door. I don’t call others “weak” because they don’t open the same doors as me.

  23. Anon • June 7, 2009 @ 4:33 PM

    Nancy on June 7, 2009 3:53 PM

    Spare me the bull. When the nutcase Boyle went on a foul ugly-mouthed rampage (it’s been stated in the news by her brother) because she came second, everyone jumped on the poor old girl, bullied all her life excuse. She’s a grown woman that doesn’t have enough grace to step back when things are beyond her control, yet these same people are going on about the drama of a 10 yr old. Carol hasn��t shown to have a consistent opinion and outlook on any of these pages. With Boyle it was oh poor her, all this attention and gossip. Where was the opinion that if you want to be in this industry, you��ve got to learn to take the good with the bad? Maybe if the kid��s skin was a little thicker and her attitude a bitter one and she started swearing and carrying on, Carol might have a little more compassion for the kid. Then she jumps all over this to let us know what a consistently firm parent she is and raising her kids with all her worldly knowledge and virtues. Based on her inability to post consistent opinions, I highly doubt her offline skills are any better. As for the parenting advise, I am years past her in that department. Maybe if mine were toddlers her words may have some merit, but she has yet to enter the teen years and beyond. When her kids have reached mine, then she can tell me how effective her no��s have been. As it stands, she could stand to take a few lessons from me, just as I could from someone with accomplished kids in their twenties.

    And for the record, I don��t believe you or your kids are weak and I hope you wouldn��t CRY about it for God sakes, you��re not ten!

  24. demigod • June 7, 2009 @ 5:01 PM

    As a non-parent..what are the RULES of this competition?-If any. Or is this just a ‘show’?
    Ofcom – the regulators and competition authority suggests it’s a competition subject to rules.
    If she’s deemed old enough and qualified to compete at this level (I imagine she passed some trials) than she’s subject to the rules.
    At the same time, understanding the sensitivities of a child, and being under such pressure, I say let her have her do-over, but judge her on her first attempt. She’s got her whole life to work on it.

  25. Anon • June 7, 2009 @ 5:12 PM

    demigod on June 7, 2009 5:01 PM

    I agree, compassion and respect for the age and lack of experience but there was no first try to judge….she stopped when her voice cracked so they obviously considered the second performance.

  26. demigod • June 7, 2009 @ 5:18 PM

    Then she should be deducted points 🙂

  27. Nancy • June 7, 2009 @ 5:57 PM

    Anon/Gina, “the bull”??? As for Susan Boyle…the one YOU refer to as “the nutcase” who, went on a “foul, ugly-mouthed rampage because she came in second”…..uh, didn’t she do that at a bar BEFORE the final? So, it wasn’t “because she came in second”. And to anyone reading this, for the record I DO NOT consider Miss Boyle to be a “nutcase”. As for your “Carol hasn’t shown to have a consistent opinion and outlook on any of these pages”…shame on you Carol, you should use 10 different names if you want to do that! ROFLMFAO!!!!!

  28. Anon • June 7, 2009 @ 6:12 PM

    Nancy on June 7, 2009 5:57 PM

    Sorry, you’re right about that. She was �admitted�� because she came in second place. The meltdowns and swearing were from the bullying she suffered 30 yrs ago

    As for your second comment re consistency…..hahahahaha

  29. Jo-Anne • June 7, 2009 @ 7:29 PM

    Anon, not only is Nancy incapable of sparing us any Bull she is obviously incapable of sparing us of the same un-funny comments over and over and over again….

    as for the crying….well….I almost needed a hanky on one of her recent posts…

  30. Anon • June 7, 2009 @ 7:56 PM

    Jo-Anne on June 7, 2009 7:29 PM

    ALMOST!!! And if it EVER happens, let me know when you pull one out, I’ll get the violin and join you.

    Completely off topic, and since Nancy was kind enough to “consistently” fill us all in on your affiliation with the police dept. I’m wondering if you can find out what their take is on smart locks. I’ve been thinking of changing all the locks in the house and these cool little things allow you to program them to accept any key you want. The kids could then use one key for front, back, basement, shed and garage doors! I love the idea of one key. I’m so impressed with these that I almost picked them up this weekend but thought I better check on the vulnerabilities of a “programable” lock.

  31. Nancy • June 7, 2009 @ 8:14 PM

    Hahaha…”old” wanna-be wise one is back with her “know-f@ck-all-about-Nancy” comments. 😛

    And something else she knows f@ck all about is what goes on in a police department….at least what goes on beyond the secretary desk, bahahaha! You’re so “un-educated” Jo-Anne….and then hypocritically condemn lily for her spelling errors.

    Oh, I almost forgot…what do you think about your good pal Anon/Gina calling Susan Boyle a “nutcase”?

  32. tributegirl • June 7, 2009 @ 8:23 PM

    Susan also wasn’t admitted because she came in second, she was admitted because of exhaustion. Also, wondering how you know how old Carol’s kids are? I didn’t notice any ages in any of her past posts.

    Another off topic discussion, since the Spider-Man article is closed for comments, Gina, I’m wondering if you have been able to find any info for mandee?

  33. Nancy • June 7, 2009 @ 8:29 PM

    Oh, and Jo-Anne is “incapable” of shutting her big mouth…”over and over and over again”.

    And Anon/Gina is “incapable” of kissing Jo-Anne’s @$$….”over and over and over again”. As well as being “incapable” of using 10 different names and differing opinions on here and then accusing Carol of being “inconsistent” with her opinions on different articles.

    LMFAO!

  34. Anon • June 7, 2009 @ 8:41 PM

    tributegirl on June 7, 2009 8:23 PM

    1. Her brother gave a statement that the breaking point was that she came in second but has calmed downs since Simon agreed to help her with a career. I believe it was an article on cbc? I guess if challenged, I��ll look it up

    2. Carol spends a lot of time volunteering at her kids school; you usually pull back somewhat in high school as the kids want a little space…so her kid (I believe one) is in grade school.

    3. Actually, I haven’t searched in depth, but have managed to find a few things which I’ll post tomorrow; spent the time at work looking for any links she might be able to use and saved them in the favourites at work. I was off sick on Thursday and Friday and hopefully plan on going back in tomorrow. We��ll see if I can get some sleep tonight from all the damn coughing!!! Thanks to my princess lol

  35. Anon • June 7, 2009 @ 8:42 PM

    Nancy on June 7, 2009 8:29 PM

    lol
    “capable” of using 10 different names and differing opinions

  36. Anon • June 7, 2009 @ 8:44 PM

    Nancy on June 7, 2009 8:29 PM

    As far as that goes, I have been giving your a$$ a few pecks here and there!

  37. Nancy • June 7, 2009 @ 8:49 PM

    Sorry, meant for it to be “incapable” of NOT using…

    As for giving my “a$$ a few pecks here and there!”….that’s funny! And please don’t kiss my @$$ after having kissed Jo-Anne’s…I don’t want to catch anything, hahaha.

  38. Nancy • June 7, 2009 @ 8:51 PM

    Oh, also supposed to be “incapable” of NOT kissing Jo-Anne’s @$$, too.

  39. Anon • June 7, 2009 @ 8:56 PM

    Nancy on June 7, 2009 8:49 PM

    Thanks for the apology, you’ve been forgiven

  40. demigod • June 7, 2009 @ 11:35 PM

    Anon, I did read a decent article on ctv.ca on the chemicals in wastewater having feminizing effects. Apparently common household products leaching into the environment are feminizing male wildlife. Predominantly fish, amphibians,birds, and reptiles(giggeddy)..including otters, seals, bears, with potential harm to human males..no doubt..
    All good news to Nancy!

  41. Nancy • June 7, 2009 @ 11:50 PM

    Why would that be “good news” to me? You’re the one who is SEXIST. No need to worry about all that water stuff though, the world will end before it really has time to have that much of an impact on us. 😛

  42. Carol • June 8, 2009 @ 7:15 PM

    Anon/Gina, didn’t know we were trying to get Nancy to pick sides…PLEASE…Nancy can think and speak for herself, so get off your high horse. Bleeding hearts are what is wrong with this country, stop whining, they gave her a do-over, just because I disagree doesn’t mean you need to start trying to recruit our peeps on Tribute.
    At least if Nancy doesn’t agree with me, she makes her point and lets it go.
    I think your daughter’s video needs a do-over!

  43. Jo-Anne • June 8, 2009 @ 8:47 PM

    Nancy “makes her point and LETS IT GO”???????

    hahahahahahahaha

    on which planet are you living, Carol?

  44. mandee • June 8, 2009 @ 9:46 PM

    Anon on June 7, 2009 8:56 PM

    L
    O
    L

  45. Nancy • June 8, 2009 @ 11:18 PM

    Jo-Anne….aren’t YOU a fine example to be talking?! See here’s the thing…Carol doesn’t cause BS with me, as “most” on here do not. You and a few others…well, that’s a different story. Maybe you should learn how to read. Carol’s last comment in particular, did not say “Nancy makes her point and LETS IT GO”. She SPECIFICALLY said “AT LEAST IF NANCY DOESN’T AGREE WITH ME, she makes her point and lets it go.”

    There are alot of opinions on here that I do not agree with it’s just that some of us are adult enough to accept others opinions…unlike yourself. So, “which planet are you living”, Jo-Anne?

  46. Nancy • June 8, 2009 @ 11:21 PM

    Oh, and mandee…maybe you wouldn’t be “L O L” -ing so much if Anon/Gina called your sister or niece the same name she called Miss Susan Boyle. You think? 😛

  47. Anon • June 8, 2009 @ 11:44 PM

    Carol on June 8, 2009 7:15 PM

    lol Sorry to burst your bubble, but I don’t recruit. Never have, never will. You on the other hand, do mention frequently �you��re with Nancy on this one���� should I take that as you TRYING to form an alliance? As for Nancy letting it go, ha. She��s no different that myself in that department! You��ve only been able to pacify her with your ass kissing agreeing. As for the comment on the video, is that the best shot you��ve got? Do you really think I care about what you think or say of either me or my kid(s). Sorry sweetie, but you haven��t got what it takes to hit a nerve with me. Oh, and FYI the video is about the editing, nothing more. So as smug as you might feel right now, your dagger fell short by miles. lol

    Nancy on June 8, 2009 11:21 PM

    Oh Nancy, cut the bullshlt! �Would you be lol if anon called your sister those names�� Are you for real? ?? You want me to copy/paste the shlt you��ve said to her and everyone else here? Or is the name calling reserved for you exclusively? Big deal, I called Boyle a nutcase. Just because she can sing, does not mean she isn��t a little touched up there. I��ve got to hand it to you, after all the name calling and insulting that you��ve done here, I��m amazed that you��ve got the gall to even mention that my opinion of the person in the article. THE PERSON IN THE ARTICLE, not the people here. You are such a disappointment.

  48. Anon • June 9, 2009 @ 12:04 AM

    Demigod

    Okay, I just tried to give you a link to a documentary on CBC on the feminizing of male species but it’s under moderation. Click my name and it will take you to the site. You can watch the full version; there��s a link on the page��since you��re at work, I��m assuming you��ve got the whole night to catch a flick or two lol I was going to watch it tonight, but my son burned the video so we can all watch together on Wednesday.

  49. Nancy • June 9, 2009 @ 12:28 AM

    Awe, coming from you…that’s really touching, NOT. My parents don’t think I’m a “disappointment”, neither do my babies, so why don’t you “cut the bullshlt!” because you mean absolutely nothing. As for me not being any different than you in the “letting it go” department….I beg to differ. I ONLY use one name. Just because YOU comment under lord only knows how many different aliases, does not mean you have “let it go”. As for Carol passifying me with her “ass kissing agreeing” (sic), the reason for her making the “letting it go” comment was letting you know that she and I do sometimes DISAGREE…so your “ass kissing agreeing” (sic) comment doesn’t make a whole lot of sense, does it? About my name calling….I never called ANYONE on here a name who had not called me one as well, nor have I insulted anyone unless they insulted me. Nice try though! I really don’t care what you call people….I just felt the need to point out that your horns were showing. How’s that for a “disappointment”? Mwah-hahahaha!

    As for the daggers….bring it on! 😛

    Carol: Anon/Gina doesn’t have to recruit….she just comments under a sh!tload of names, pretending to be different people all agreeing with her.

  50. demigod • June 9, 2009 @ 3:01 AM

    That’s ‘sexiEst’..learn to spell.

  51. Jo-Anne • June 9, 2009 @ 8:19 AM

    fine example of Nancy “letting it go” this is like the 3,000th time (maybe 4,000th? ha ha) she makes reference to different name posting re Anon…way to “let it go” Nance, you forgiving tolerant soul, you !!

    ha ha ha

    “Carol doesn’t cause BS with me as most on here do not” ???? If I had a dime for every person who told you off/disagreed with you/slammed you, etc. etc., Nance….well, bring on the Porsche…and the Jag….and the…well, point made…

    what a vain thing to say – “doesn’t cause BS with me” – kind of sums up just how self obsessed you are…

    oh, and most important….

    L O L Anon!!!

  52. Jo-Anne • June 9, 2009 @ 8:22 AM

    p.s. low blow on the daughter’s video, Carol…kinda showing your true colours…totally unnecessary…

  53. Nancy • June 9, 2009 @ 8:49 AM

    Again dumb@$$, read Carol’s comment….she said when I don’t agree WITH HER…she never said f@ck all about you now did she? So…tell me again exactly WHO you are calling “self obsessed”? Now, in all reality Jo-Anne, you know….unlike where you are, there really haven’t been that many who have been rude on here…especially considering that “some” are multiple name users. You really have a problem with me keeping that little tidbit in the spotlight don’t you? Why is that, Jo Jo? Btw, fyi….I could care less if someone “disagrees” with me, that is the whole point of this comment section. You and a couple others though cannot be adult enough to accept that people have different opinions and like to look down your big noses at everyone else’s comments, with your “I’m intelligent and you’re not”; “You’re uneducated”; “Ooooooh! Spelling error, Tribute”, etc. comments. Meanwhile I’ve been “repeatedly” saying it on here to YOU, ANON/GINA (and her other aliases, LOL) and DEMIGOD that none of you are any better than the rest of us…so get your damn nose out of the air and watch where you are going! Oh, and I feel I have to set you straight Jo-Anne…yet AGAIN….what were your words to lily? “Who are you to judge”? Well, who are YOU to judge Carol with your last comment??????? You’re a freaking rainbow when it comes to “showing your true colours”!!! “Totally unnecessary” all the things that YOU say to people too…right from day 1 you labelled me as a “bad mom” on here meanwhile, what the hell do you know? Besides nothing?

  54. Anon • June 9, 2009 @ 11:44 AM

    It’s really too bad all my comments last night went into moderation then deleted. There was quite a bit of reading material for Nancy.

  55. Anon • June 9, 2009 @ 11:53 AM

    It��s pretty amusing that someone with a trucker��s mouth would be so offended by aliases
    As for the comments your name calling��would you like to pull a Nancy and copy/paste for all to see your maturity level and vocabulary, oops I mean name-calling. It��s really quite amusing that you of all people sit there preaching all your fictitious virtues and values, hypocrite.

    Nancy, the comment about the daggers was not directed at you….yours are nothing more than shrivelled claws.

  56. Anon • June 9, 2009 @ 11:58 AM

    DEMIGOD

    oops gave you the wrong link for the documentary on the male species. Well worth watching!

    http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/doczone/2008/disappearingmale/

  57. Nancy • June 9, 2009 @ 1:29 PM

    Well Anon/Gina, these people on here have already read the things I have written and you can be damn sure that they know and you do as well, that I haven’t just come through here calling people names. So while you are doing your “cut & paste” maybe you should cut & paste what they said to me as well. I’ve made it very clear on here that those who do not treat me with respect will NOT receive my respect either. There have been a few on here who don’t get that, including but not totally limited to you, Jo-Anne and demigod. A couple more would be “psychologist” Mike and that Nat character. So go right ahead, just make sure to cut & paste BOTH sides of the story, okay. You’re nothing but a b!tch who thinks she knows all anyways but again I will clarify THAT YOU ARE “NO BETTER” THAN ANYONE ELSE. I am also not “offended” by your need to play games on here with different names, I just think you are a total jack@$$ for it. Remember, “there is a name on sites like this for people like you….TROLL!” So what if I have a “trucker’s mouth”…and notice as well that it is only with disrespectful @$$es like yourself? I don’t talk to others on here like that but then again, they don’t treat me that way either. Just another example of how I don’t take sh!t from jack@$$es. Don’t like it? Move along then. 😛 LMFAO

  58. demigod • June 9, 2009 @ 3:30 PM

    Nancy on June 9, 2009 1:29 PM

    Please. Who was it calling me sexist for giving a male perspective on things (badly needed I might add), and then mounting a feeble attack, trying to prove to everyone here I’m sexist? Hypocrite.

  59. demigod • June 9, 2009 @ 3:32 PM

    Anon on June 9, 2009 11:58 AM

    Thanks..I’ll watch that 43 min clip online when I get the chance.

  60. Jo-Anne. • June 9, 2009 @ 3:34 PM

    So��tell me again exactly WHO you are calling �self obsessed��?

    Okay, Nance, I’ll tell you AGAIN….you

  61. Nancy • June 9, 2009 @ 3:44 PM

    Well demigod, first of all….did you not call me “square” on a Chris Brown article back in February?…You lost any respect I had for you right there. Secondly, yup I called you “sexist” and you are, and some of the other females on here agreed with that as well. Hey, maybe Anon/Gina can cut & paste your “woman-hater” comments for everyone to see once again…”hypocrite”!

  62. Nancy • June 9, 2009 @ 3:46 PM

    Oh, then of course demigod, you turn around…you and Anon/Gina, and try to make it look like I’m a man-hater. Bahahahaha.

  63. Jo-Anne. • June 9, 2009 @ 3:57 PM

    FEBRUARY??????????????????????????

    “square”??????????????????????????

    which is more pathetic?

  64. Anon • June 9, 2009 @ 4:06 PM

    Nancy on June 9, 2009 3:46 PM

    I don’t think you are a man hater per say, just a product of your experiences. And don’t start with the “you don’t know my life bit” because none of us picked the loser for you – you did. Just like the rest of us picked who we felt we deserved and best suited us. lol

    Good grief Nancy, someone called you �square��??? How insulting!! Should have used Bltch, mutt, jacka$$ etc; it��s better to communicate with people at their level. haha

  65. demigod • June 9, 2009 @ 4:18 PM

    Nancy on June 9, 2009 3:44 PM

    Accusing someone as ‘square’ and someone as ‘sexist'(and campaigning it) can hardly be compared.
    There are a number of us accusing you of being a man-hater too!
    And don’t pretend you ever respected me..a MALE with a mind of my own.

  66. demigod • June 9, 2009 @ 4:21 PM

    Jo-Anne. on June 9, 2009 3:57 PM

    I know..talk about grudges!

  67. mandee • June 9, 2009 @ 4:50 PM

    Nancy on June 8, 2009 11:18 PM

    i was laughing at her saying she accepts your apology, actually. my sister and niece have nothing to do with anon accepting your apology, do they nancy? thats specifically why i posted the exact time of the post i was commenting on, so no one would misunderstand what i thought was soo funny. anon actually does have a pretty good sense of humor most of the time, its a shame that you dont see that.

    anon, when did you put up your daughters play? i want to see it, is it still posted?

  68. Anon • June 9, 2009 @ 5:04 PM

    Well mandeekins 🙂 the play is still running so they haven’t transferred any of the films to dvd yet. Once they do, I will give you a link to the video.

  69. Carol • June 9, 2009 @ 6:05 PM

    Nancy, PICK ME! PICK ME!…LOL

    Jo-Anne, low blow, whatever…read your own comments before you criticize someone else’s. Why do you feel the need to drag yourself into everything? I’m sure I’ll get a long proper, professional answer to this one.

    Anon/Gina, whatever, editing, exploiting, call it what you want, but if you are going to link your kids on pretty much every response, you have to be able to take the criticism. Sounds to me like you were bothered. I was just giving a do-over, isn’t that what the topic is about?
    And DUH! I don’t ass kiss Nancy, but I do see her logic and point of view, and do tend to agree with her on many points. If I didn’t, I wouldn’t say so. What’s it to you if I agree with her point of view? NOTHING!

    My gosh, I think I’m all over the board on this one…what do you think Gina?

  70. Nancy • June 9, 2009 @ 6:40 PM

    OMG people! Do you actually think I frigging care that demigod called me “square”? I could care less about the name and it’s meaning. It’s the fact that he name-called period. Over my opinion. I hadn’t called him any names up until that point and still wouldn’t. And yes, up until that point, I did respect you demigod…that is why I hadn’t called you any names. I also never “campaigned” against you about you being sexist. I called you sexist, you denied it, I proved you wrong with your own comments. I never invited others in to side with me, did I? As for your “there are a number of us accusing you of being a man-hater too!” comment….nope, just the 3 stooges.

    Mandee: Yes I know what you were talking about in your comment, you really don’t have to explain that. I also don’t find Anon/Gina’s comments very funny at all and my “Sorry” to her was sarcasm…it’s a shame none of you “see that”.

    Anon/Gina: I never blamed ANY of you or any other man for my choices in life! How I choose to live my life is my business. Just because I like my freedom and choose to give my kids 100% doesn’t mean that I am a man-hater. As for the list of names you mentioned (“bltch, mutt,jack@$$, etc.”), yup…those are the names I’ve used on those who called me a “bad mom”; “freak”; “man-hater”, etc.; etc.; etc. Why don’t you come up with some “real proof” here. You know, when some random, innocent person, sweet as pie came on Tribute to leave an innocent comment and a big, mean, 6’1 freak named Nancy came on, totally disrespecting this nice person calling him/her a bunch of names that only a trucker would use. Oh….riiiight…you can’t get that kind of proof because there is none. So what, so I’m a spiteful person (I’ve stated that already on here before). What’s done is done…don’t expect me to EVER, I repeat….”EVER”, go back and just forgive and forget what has been said on here. That’s not going to happen. So go ahead, just keep ganging up on me here….jack@$$es! Hahaha.

    Jo-Anne….there’s still a spot on your nose that isn’t brown…better get it back in there! Bend over Gina! 😛

  71. Jo-Anne. • June 9, 2009 @ 6:40 PM

    well, excuse me, Carol, was there a new Tribute Rulebook distributed that I somehow neglected to read – could you copy/paste me on the section which outlines limitations as to when I should be posting? Must have missed that one…

    perhaps as “criticism” is your sore point, you should hold a mirror whilst posting to continuously remind self of same?

    and can you clarify, when you request “proper, professional” posts from myself, is your “DUH!” meant to reflect same standard?

    just wondering….

  72. Nancy • June 9, 2009 @ 6:48 PM

    Oh, and as for Anon/Gina speaking of me having a “trucker’s mouth”…and claiming her parenting skills are so perfect…click on her name and check out the following videos of her “trucker mouth” daughter:

    Videos by Tatt17:

    #*%&)

    Re:Hey There Delilah SUCKS

    You have a blessed day

    mr. abercrombie is nakey

    ….You should really clean your own home first, Gina.

  73. demigod • June 9, 2009 @ 7:07 PM

    Nancy on June 9, 2009 6:40 PM

    I never really flat-out called you ‘square’. I said ‘Don’t be so square’ re your opinion Rihanna shouldn’t get out of a friggin’ car.
    You proved I’m sexist? You maliciously attacked me personally based on random quotes taken out of context. I could go back and explain everything I said and prove there was nothing discriminatory. But you’re simply not worth the effort.

  74. Nancy • June 9, 2009 @ 8:29 PM

    I bet you can’t prove otherwise…;)

  75. Nancy • June 9, 2009 @ 8:29 PM

    😉

  76. Nancy • June 9, 2009 @ 8:30 PM

    If you could, you would have done so when it happened.

  77. Carol • June 9, 2009 @ 8:46 PM

    well, Joanne, you have the biggest tendacy to get involved over anyone else on this site. You are not happy unless you can get involved or start a dispute. Yes, I was looking for a proper rebuttal from you because you are the professional who has you degree in journalism from some cracker jack box. There is no rulebook, but you really are sad, the way you stick your nose into everything. If you noticed, when you and Nancy have your “disagreements” I stay out of it, I am adult enough to know it doesnt’ involve me. Maybe you should be holding the mirror and wipe the brown off your nose.
    Now, darlin, can we have a least ONE topic that you can discuss the matter at hand, and if you don’t agree with an opinion, or someone else starts a dispute, you can handle it maturely.
    I’ll give you a do-over too. Be nice in this one.

  78. Jo-Anne • June 9, 2009 @ 8:57 PM

    certainly, Carol, but I won’t hold my breath the “mature” discussion will be with you…you’ve demonstrated your absence of this trait over and over again…

  79. Anon • June 9, 2009 @ 9:03 PM

    Nancy on June 9, 2009 6:48 PM
    Videos by Tatt17:

    hahaha guess what, it’s not MY kid hahaha
    I’m flattered that you are interested enough to take the time to research us, but you once again fell short. I think you should keep looking, you might find her! lol EDITING is the word you missed. FOR MEDIA ARTS CLASS….E D I T I N G.

    Nice try though haha

  80. demigod • June 9, 2009 @ 9:17 PM

    Nancy on June 9, 2009 8:29 PM

    The onus is on YOU to prove it. YOU are the accuser. You have the burden of proof, that’s how things work in the free world Nancypants (thought you enjoyed ‘Nancycakes’ too much).

  81. mandee • June 9, 2009 @ 9:23 PM

    Anon on June 9, 2009 5:04 PM great, thank you. i thought i somehow missed it already being added.

    Nancy on June 9, 2009 6:40 PM it was CLEAR your apology to anon was purely sarcasm, which is why her accepting it was soo funny to me. together you both really make me laugh. i dont see why my family needed to be dragged into my sense of humor?

    also, whats going on? i have read everything and im still confused as to how so many of you have ended up in a fight? all i simply said was

    L
    O
    L

    and now my niece and sister and me are all being dragged into it? what exactly did i miss? i was unaware i wasnt allowed to have my own sense of humor.

    demigod on June 9, 2009 7:07 PM i can totally see where youre coming from, i once said (simply to prove a point) that we can ALL act like idiots (i included that nancy can act like an idiot too) and she freaked out. i didnt say she WAS an idiot, just that, at some point it was possible she could have ACTED LIKE one.

  82. Anon • June 9, 2009 @ 9:27 PM

    Great, I’m being moderated. You whinning to someone Nancy?

  83. lily • June 9, 2009 @ 9:42 PM

    I think tributegirls very first sentence about this article, 80 comments ago, is by far the best point. I had trouble following the wierd long fight and I think mandee got picked on for nothing but again, back to the kid who wanted a second try, she’s just a baby and children shouldn’t be exposed to this type of pressure. Simon was right to be kind to her.

  84. mandee • June 9, 2009 @ 10:12 PM

    agreed on all points lily

  85. Nancy • June 9, 2009 @ 11:30 PM

    Jeeze demigod, I DID “prove” it! Re-read your June 9, 7:07 PM comment…you said “I could go back and explain everything I said and PROVE there was nothing discriminatory. But you’re simply not worth the effort.” Thus meaning, “the onus is on YOU” to prove me wrong because I did prove you to be sexist. Everyone here knows you are…comment after comment after comment of woman bashing.

    Mandee…you really don’t want to start with me again, do you? What I meant by asking you how you would like it if Anon/Gina called your sister or niece a “nutcase” is that you and your clan like to jump all over everyone else for what they say about people…for example, what the 2 people said about poor Adam Lambert on his Rolling Stone/gay article…I noticed you never said a word to Gina…neither did you lily but yet, you guys jumped all over Steve-O and the lady who called his situation a “trap”…come on, Anon/Gina wants consistency here! So give her the consistency! LMAO. And for the record mandee, I do remember your “act like idiots” comment….but I also remember the fight you and I had the first time you came on here to comment…one of the first things you said to me was “You’re an idiot”. Remember that? Well remember this…I don’t forgive and I never forget.

  86. mandee • June 10, 2009 @ 12:39 AM

    ok, well first of all, i wasnt starting a fight. i was just telling demigod that sometimes you take things a different way then they are meant. what do you mean anons comments on adams page? i didnt and do not even NOW see any posts from anon? and no, i dont remember every fight i have with every person and what was said each time. i have called many people idiots, and the fact that you “dont forgive” is kind of dumb just in the sense that i didnt KNOW you when i first came here, so for me to call you an idiot when i clearly had no idea about you or your intentions or your thoughts was just me trying to get a rise out of someone that irritated me. how can you not forgive and forget something that you may have changed my personal views on? it just doesnt make sense to hold a grudge for that long (to me anyways). youve said some pretty terrible things to me, as im sure anon and i know joanne have, but i have no reason to continue to hold a grudge for longer than the 5 minutes it warrants. i just assumed you were trying to drag me into a fight that had nothing to do with me thats all.

  87. demigod • June 10, 2009 @ 1:00 AM

    Nancy on June 9, 2009 8:29 PM It’s incredible how you can take someone’s meaning and twist it to mean what you want it to. YOU are the accuser. YOU have the burden of proof. Cut/pasting random comments and taking them out of context is NOT proof! I can prove my innocence but I don’t HAVE TO! The burden is not on me! Get it?
    You talk in circles (the endless vortex), yet you remain sooo SQUARE. There, I’ve said it. It’s official.

  88. demigod • June 10, 2009 @ 1:05 AM

    mandee on June 10, 2009 12:39 AM

    Mandee lol I didn’t even see your post before, and we said the exact same thing about Nancy twisting meanings. I can see you’re just as perceptive 😉

  89. lily • June 10, 2009 @ 7:12 AM

    another comment on mandee 12:39

    Wow! I got the impression somewhere that you are really young but your discussion about forgiveness sounds super mature. If everyone could have that kind of commonsense perspective (and yes Nancy I mean me too!) this would be a beautiful world.

  90. lily • June 10, 2009 @ 7:14 AM

    btw I didn’t see a comment from anon bashing Adam either but im gonna go look…

  91. lily • June 10, 2009 @ 7:16 AM

    looked…still don’t see it

  92. Jo-Anne • June 10, 2009 @ 8:24 AM

    “Mandee��you really don��t want to start with me again, do you?”

    what the heck kind of comment is this, Nance, you are cementing your wannabe gangsta bully status brick by brick…

  93. Anon • June 10, 2009 @ 9:11 AM

    Nancy on June 9, 2009 11:30 PM
    I noticed you never said a word to Gina….It might have something to do with the fact that I never posted a comment! lol so calm down, you’re so hot under the collar and in such a frenzy you’re not making sense anymore lol

    Jo-Anne on June 10, 2009 8:24 AM

    Jo, want a visual, click the link.

  94. Jo-Anne • June 10, 2009 @ 9:51 AM

    man, do you have that right, Anon, priceless…ha ha !

  95. Nancy • June 10, 2009 @ 10:06 AM

    Man, Anon/Gina and Jo-Anne claim to be so “intelligent” and can’t even understand???? Lily and mandee, I was speaking of how you guys jumped all over the people who put Adam Lambert down about being gay but yet Anon/Gina on THIS article…”THIS article” ▲ called poor Susan Boyle a “nutcase” and then puts Carol down for “consistency” in her comments from article to article…and yet, I’m the only one who said anything. You two stepped up to the plate for Adam but not for Susan is what I’m saying. So Gina, I’m not “hot under the collar” at all nor am I “in a frenzy” and I am making perfect sense…you guys just need to “calm down” and learn how to read properly!

    Lily, about the “forgiveness” thing, I forgive my family and friends and that is it. I do not forgive strangers. And maybe if people would get some RESPECT for others they wouldn’t need to constantly be forgiven.

    Demigod, so what? So you think I’m “SQUARE”…I still say you are an @$$ too and I TOTALLY proved that you are a sexist pig…and you prove it constantly with your almost daily comments of woman bashing, hahaha.

    Anon/Gina, you shouldn’t post pictures of yourself…all covered in your awful “homemade” tattoos! Oh yeah, I guess you had to post something else so people wouldn’t click on your name and hear your “trucker mouth” daughter cursing in her youtube videos, right? LMAO! Just go to youtube people and type in Tatt17 😛

  96. Anon • June 10, 2009 @ 10:23 AM

    Nancy on June 9, 2009 6:48 PM

    FYI

    Nice try That’s not my daughter lol So while I’m flattered that you took the time to search the web for us, her pics / videos are not there. The video was an editing project for media arts in school haha But you can keep looking if you like. Lol But I will put the link in for her play, and you can all have a blast ripping her apart. Like I said to Carol, your opinions mean nothing in the scope of things.

  97. Nancy • June 10, 2009 @ 1:11 PM

    Whatever Gina…I don’t believe it. Before I brought up your daughters “trucker mouth”, you were claiming to everyone on here that this was your daughter and how “proud” you were of her. Heck, she even did a youtube video called ‘Gina gets her b!tch on’. Btw, I didn’t have to “search the web” for the videos, I clicked on your name and you said she was your daughter…so don’t flatter yourself! “took the time to search the web for us”….GAWD! I’m also not trying to rip your daughter apart. All I said was maybe you should clean your own house first…you’re the one who brought up the “trucker mouth”. 😛

  98. Anon • June 10, 2009 @ 2:22 PM

    Oh forgot to mention, my words were to check out my daughter’s video, which is a spoof of 2 girls and the ring. Nothing more Nancy. If I said my daughter was in the video, which one did I say she was? So off with you now to your favourite past time to see what exactly I said. Lol

  99. mandee • June 10, 2009 @ 2:55 PM

    ohh hey, i forgot to include…where are you on the “demi moore wants susan boyle at her party” article? where someone made quite the rude (yet funny) comment about demi moores and ashton kutchers acting abilities? wanna talk about how i didnt jump down anons throat for calling someone in a “hospital” a “nutcase” where are you to defend mr kutchers and mrs moores perfect reputation?

  100. Anon • June 10, 2009 @ 4:07 PM

    tributegirl on June 10, 2009 3:06 PM

    Speaking for myself, I haven’t asked her to prove a thing. And I don’t think you’ve involved yourself at all. Though I could go through my posts to see if I said it was my daughter in there, it’s really not worth the effort. Regardless, the videos she is talking about are not my kid, but I guess if she feels she has something over me, all the power to her; she can run with it as far as she wants.

    Frankly, my discussion was with Carol not Nancy who has involved herself. And that��s okay if she wants to, but she really has to be able to take if she dishes out. I was actually enjoying myself with Nancy until my comment Anon on June 7, 2009 4:33 PM (which by the way, was not an attack on her) and all went down hill from there. Then she got personal with the usual aliases, kid bashing and whatever else she feels is good ammunition.

  101. Jo-Anne. • June 10, 2009 @ 5:10 PM

    thanks mandee, and for the record, anything that happened ages ago between you and I has long been forgotten…I have come to see you as a caring person with many sides to her and I am quite enjoying your feisty side and humorous side as well!

    bang on with the “bigger person” comment – very insightful! ha ha mandee!

  102. mandee • June 10, 2009 @ 6:08 PM

    🙂

  103. mandee • June 10, 2009 @ 6:09 PM

    i hate how creepy that smile looks grrr. thanks joanne 😀 🙂 whatever one is less creepy, is for you

  104. Jo-Anne. • June 10, 2009 @ 6:57 PM

    haha mandee…the element of creepiness is in the eyebrows!!!! I’ll take option numero uno and thanks!!

  105. Nancy • June 10, 2009 @ 7:07 PM

    And someone who has “mentally challenged” family members should be a little more sensitive to that…that is why I brought up your sister and niece mandee. It wasn’t to be rude about them, it was because you run around here kissing Anon/Gina’s @$$, hanging onto every word she says, “L _ L” -ing “You’re so funny” meanwhile, she’s running people down for mental illness!

  106. Nancy • June 10, 2009 @ 7:08 PM

    L O L” -ing

  107. lily • June 10, 2009 @ 7:16 PM

    Well Nancy,not that you care I’m sure,but your last few lines (everything after “btw” are so incredibly hateful to me that I can’t talk to you again.
    mandee, keep being who you are: honest, open and kind-hearted. I hope your not dissappointed in me for not being able to forgive and forget but I think the best I can do is just remove her from my conversations.

  108. mandee • June 10, 2009 @ 7:21 PM

    im SURE nancy that all 3 of us that read your article are just “nutcases” that cant read. give your head a shake. and so what if i love gay people? i do. i think its great that they are soo liberated. whats wrong with that? and can you show me where i said i agreed with anon that susan was a nutcase? must have missed that comment i made. i never said i agreed or disagreed with her comments. and there you go calling me names again because i didnt agree with you. did i call you any names? no i didnt, theres that class i was talking about. and huh, i kiss anons @$$ do i? seems to me every time someone proves what an inconsiderate jerk you are, you accuse them of either kissing joannes or anons @$$. sure sounds like jealousy to me. and yes, you saying how would i like it if she called my family “nutcases” is dragging my family into something that has nothing to do with them. when i insulted your kids it was the same time i insulted joannes, around there. at least shes the mature one and knows how to let things go. do i need sympathy for someone that may or may not be a nutcase? no i sure dont. i never said i had sympathy for my niece or sister, they are still people and i still treat them the way i treat the rest of my family. and you can think im disgusting all you want just because i think gay men are hot, no one asked you your opinion on my views of sexuality 🙂

  109. mandee • June 10, 2009 @ 7:27 PM

    oh, and i dont consider them to be “mentally challenged” either. i consider them to have a few flaws. and you run around trying to protect the people you DEEM worthy of your respect (prime example being susan) but you dont think that gay people, me and my so called “mentally challenged” family, the other people on this site, deserve the same respect? the same compassion? talk about bitter. and lily, i dont expect you to talk to nancy when shes being so rude to people that havent even done anything to her. if you dont want to forgive her or talk to her, thats just fine. i wasnt suggesting that everyone must forgive everyone in the world that does them wrong, but really whats the point in letting them get to you? it takes more effort to hate someone and hold a grudge than it takes to forgive and be not only the better person, but the one thats less likely to be bitter over stupid pettiness. anger and bitterness and rage and sadness take a lot out of a person, if you forgive as soon as youre done with the whole conversation it will be better for your heart and soul. you dont forgive someone for them, you forgive them for your own well being. i wouldnt hold on to a grudge if i were you lily, but if you dont want to talk to nancy then great, she cant upset you anymore.

  110. Nancy • June 10, 2009 @ 8:07 PM

    Like I said…nice reading skills there, that’s two…you and mandee.

    READ: Check out my comment regarding Adam Lambert which I made right after saying that on the June 4 Mandee Moore article. AGAIN….PREDICTABLE!! And those LEECHES jump and jump and jump yet again. Just goes to PROVE that you guys don’t even read these comments…you just see the name ‘Nancy’ and start sucking for my blood.

    Lily…you sure did jump pretty quick on my back about the Adam Lambert comment, eh? Mandee did too. Hahaha. You still haven’t said a word about the Susan Boyle “nutcase” comment though, I see. 😛

  111. Nancy • June 10, 2009 @ 8:20 PM

    OMG! Did “uneducated”, “unintelligent” Nancy just prove something about all of you here? The comments sure have slowed down now haven’t they? Think up your comebacks people, how can you all worm your way out of this one? 😛

    “PREDICTABLE!”

  112. lily • June 10, 2009 @ 8:31 PM

    JoAnne: point taken.

  113. mandee • June 10, 2009 @ 9:33 PM

    “�need to find some boundaries��; �mean-spirited comments��; Jo-Anne��s a better person than you��; �I know you would have dragged her weight into this�� and now, �every time someone proves what an inconsiderate jerk you are����oh yeah��you��re sooooooooooooooooooo innocent!”

    first of all, thats not me insulting YOU it was me insulting your COMMENTS, also, yes i did call you an inconsiderate jerk after you already started insulting me and accusing me of “@$$ kissing”. and i never once “played innocent” its been probably a year since i brought up your kids. funny you still enjoy dragging in my autistic niece and my sister that has her own problems. sure makes YOU sound like the saint, does it not? and “practically agreeing” ok, sorry ill give you that one. i forgot that you said ONE word there. and “The comments sure have slowed down now haven��t they? ” ?? well, thats because the rest of us appear to have lives outside of your insignificant little temper tantrums miss perfect. im still trying to see how you can get off accusing me basically of being a hypocrite for defending adam, when you defend susan but NOT adam and demi and ashton. wonder why that is? they arent worthy of queen nancys approval because they arent a “nutcase” ?

  114. Nancy • June 10, 2009 @ 9:41 PM

    Read mandee…read

    June 4 Mandy Moore article.

    I said what I needed to say about Adam on that article and there are alot of people out there who don’t like Demi and Ashton’s acting…that’s allowed…that’s not rude. Even Saint lily enjoyed that comment about Demi and Ashton and wished she had thought of it! As for you saying it has “probably been a year” since you insulted my kids…it was Easter…of THIS year, when I said I was going to “spend the rest of this beautiful day with my babies”.

  115. mandee • June 10, 2009 @ 10:07 PM

    oh hey, ps. i went and found that article you commented on, funny the only time you would say anything that seemed to be actually sane and not degrading and rude towards the rest of us is on an article that YOURE THE ONLY ONE that has commented. huh, wonder why that is?

  116. mandee • June 10, 2009 @ 10:08 PM

    just now saw your comment joanne, i thought it fit perfectly too.

  117. mandee • June 10, 2009 @ 11:17 PM

    huh, looks like my sister didnt appreciate someone talking about her and my niece.

  118. Nancy • June 10, 2009 @ 11:17 PM

    Jo-Anne…Thank you. We’re all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view. Once again, I have a brain…I didn’t have to “SEARCH months of posts” at all.

    Mandee: There is only my comment on that Mandee Moore article…of course there is DUH, that’s why I picked that article to write it!

    Jody: I see you’ve set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public! Shut up yourself! I wasn’t degrading you or your 12 year old autistic daughter. If you don’t like it, why don’t you tell your mentally challenged sister to “shut up” about you guys on here? Like I told Gina…clean your own house first, because mandee brought you and your daughter on here to start with.

  119. mandee • June 10, 2009 @ 11:34 PM

    why arent u on msn :@ i was gonna show u something grr

  120. jody • June 10, 2009 @ 11:40 PM

    i turned it off because everyone is sending me messages

  121. mandee • June 10, 2009 @ 11:40 PM

    anyway, sweet dreamzz all you tribute posters out there. im crazy exhausted and i need sleep. gotta get up in a few hours to get my brothers gf from work. we can all continue to fight tomorrow if you like, ill be around.

  122. mandee • June 10, 2009 @ 11:41 PM

    ok well night ill just show u tomorrow

  123. Nancy • June 10, 2009 @ 11:41 PM

    Jody….don’t even go there. Some of us haven’t lived with mommy and daddy for years! Ooops…sorry mandee for letting her know you told everyone on here, haha. Clean your own house, Jody.

    Mandee…you talk about ME taking things out of context! FYI, “mentally challenged” is the proper term for people who are a little unique rather than calling them “nutcase” or “retard” OR, here’s YOUR favourite term “idiot”.

  124. mandee • June 10, 2009 @ 11:44 PM

    well, while youre telling her things, feel free to mention how i also told you all that we live in a triplex so my sister lives in the top apartment and IM actually the only one who lives WITH my parents. and “idiot” isnt someone that is different, its someone thats stupid, and definitely rings more true when followed by “nancy”….idiot…nancy

  125. mandee • June 10, 2009 @ 11:49 PM

    there is no dad jody, just that mother.

  126. jody • June 10, 2009 @ 11:51 PM

    that does not surprise me

  127. Nancy • June 11, 2009 @ 9:10 AM

    Come on Jody, we ALL know your are schizo…mandee told us! And FYI…”mentally challenged” is the proper term for someone with a learning disability…guess I should have just said “nutcase” right from the beginning. All I had said to mandee was asking her how she would like it if someone called her sister and niece that word. Idk about you but personally, if my child learned at a different pace than most (and that is NOT being rude), I’d rather people said she’s mentally challenged than call her a “nutcase”.

    Mandee: Susan Boyle was not “committed” either, she VOLUNTARILY checked herself into a hospital due to exhaustion so she could relax and get away from everyone for a few days. I have to admit, I laughed my @$$ off though when you wrote “and “idiot” isn’t someone that is different, it’s someone that’s stupid.” 😀

  128. Anon • June 11, 2009 @ 10:52 AM

    Well, in the pic, you did look kind of familiar….though we don’t have any trailer parks in my area. Must of been on the front lawn of some housing project I’ve driven past.

  129. Anon • June 11, 2009 @ 10:53 AM

    Nancy on June 11, 2009 10:39 AM
    I never called her an �imbecile��, did I?

    You didn’t need to…your tone and words pretty much sum it up for us.

  130. Nancy • June 11, 2009 @ 10:56 AM

    Shouldn’t that be “must’ve”? You know, short for “must have”. Just wondering but you had better verify it….you ARE the “intelligent” one, right? LMAO.

  131. Anon • June 11, 2009 @ 10:59 AM

    Nancy on June 11, 2009 10:56 AM

    Speaking so u can understand. Better?

  132. jody • June 11, 2009 @ 11:35 AM

    i think you need to grow up nancy and worry about your own family

  133. mandee • June 11, 2009 @ 1:55 PM

    Nancy on June 10, 2009 11:59 PM “sponging” would mean that i take their money and that they support me. they havent supported me since i got my first job at 16, they are only supporting me now that i do not have a job which has only been 10 days.

    demigod, where did tg post? its not there on mines.

    Nancy on June 11, 2009 9:10 AM first of all, id rather someone NOT insult my child at all if i had one with a learning disability. ill tell you again, there is nothing WRONG with my sister or my niece, and i will treat them the same way i treat everyone else. oh and wow, smart girl you found that i accidentally added a “d” on the word AN. anyone with “half a brain” would have realized that was simply a typo.

    Anon on June 11, 2009 10:29 AM sometimes the posts you make are amazingly accurate and i really like the way that you word them. thanks.

    Nancy on June 11, 2009 10:39 AM lol @ “Jump on her mandee��freak right out!”

    also, curious. does anyone else wonder how someone with a FULL TIME JOB (nancy) manages to spend MORE TIME on here than the recently unemployed? makes me wonder if nancy isnt really some hormonal 16 year old with nothing better to do than act like “an idiot”.

  134. mandee • June 11, 2009 @ 2:45 PM

    oops, didnt mean “mines” i meant mine.

  135. Nancy • June 11, 2009 @ 4:37 PM

    Sorry to burst your bubble there, “sweetie” but your sister and niece are “mentally challenged”…from what you have told us. I don’t know what part you’re getting here mandee but I’ve said it quite a few times here on this article…THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. Do you understand? But stop being in denial. You said so yourself that your sister is schizophrenic, on disability, cannot work and you & your sister both said your niece is autistic. Again, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT! You, your sister and everyone else here are freaking out for no reason. I’m not going to tell you guys where I work, mandee. So you and Jo-Anne can stop “prying”. I work, pay the bills, have a roof over my kids heads, we’re doing just fine. I’m definately not 16…sometimes wish I was, hahaha. I also have more time than the “recently unemployed” because I’m not playing family taxi.

    Also mandee…I have no clue what you are talking about with the “d” you added to the “AN”…??????????????

    Anon/Gina…oh, so…you guys get to interpret my “tone” however you wish but I can’t? Hmmm…who’s the hypocrite now?

  136. mandee • June 11, 2009 @ 4:43 PM

    ohh, that was my mistake again. i misread what you said when you said “and idiot”. and so what if she is autistic and my sister cant work because shes schizo? still, i dont consider it mentally challenged. and youre right, there is nothing wrong with that, so next time dont drag them into something that has NOTHING to do with them. i never asked you where you work?? i just find it hard to believe that you work “full time” and are on here as much as you are. and ive only been my brothers gfs “taxi” lately, cant afford gas to drive anyone else anywhere.

  137. Nancy • June 11, 2009 @ 5:14 PM

    Nope, it’s really not “hard to believe at all”, although…………I don’t recall ever saying I worked full time…maybe I did…because I do…doesn’t matter as long as my work gets done, right? And you know what? With high speed and me popping in and out of here throughout the day, it actually doesn’t really take much time at all. 😀

    Anyways, YOU don’t consider it “mentally challenged” but guess what? It is. And again THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. But you see how it feels to have that said to you and in such a “professional” term…well, I would assume being called a “nutcase” wouldn’t make someone feel too good at all. Now, I never meant to drag your sister and niece into this in a bad way, it’s just that you were laughing and “L O L” -ing along with the one spewing the “nutcase” phrase so I asked you how you would like it if your sister or niece were referred to that way. Is this all making sense to you now?

  138. jody • June 11, 2009 @ 5:53 PM

    to be honest nancy i really don’t give a rats ass what you think of my daughter or myself…hell im the first one to admit we are nuts…but unlike you i do not come in here crying looking for attention and telling people that my husband abused me and my kids nor do i come in here and drag other peoples family into my little fights when someone decides not to agree with me

  139. Nancy • June 11, 2009 @ 6:35 PM

    Well…good thing I’M not YOU, Jody! Oh…and I was FAR from “crying” and “looking for attention”. And you know what? Even through everything my kids and I went through….I still never went running back to mommy and daddy, so “i really don’t give a rats ass what you think” of me and my kids either. LMFAO!

  140. Nancy • June 11, 2009 @ 6:39 PM

    And FYI…I asked mandee how she would like it if Anon/Gina called her niece and sister a “nutcase” BEFORE….B E F O R E she “disagreed” with me.

    Guess I’ll just have to start calling mentally challenged people “nutcases”, huh? It seems that is what others call them and that is what they call themselves (your “we are nuts” comment) and that is what they like to be called, I guess…??

  141. mandee • June 11, 2009 @ 6:52 PM

    Nancy on June 11, 2009 5:14 PM once again, i was ” L O L ” – ing at anon saying she forgave your sarcastic apology, i wasnt laughing at the fact she called someone a nutcase. “make sense now” ? anyway, talking to you is harder than talking to my “mentally challenged” niece and sister, at least they LISTEN and UNDERSTAND what im saying. i dont NEED to fight with you to make myself feel better about my life or my family, so i wont fight with you about this anymore. i know my family, you dont. grow up nancy. this is my last post about any of this, and my last post on this article.

  142. Nancy • June 11, 2009 @ 7:21 PM

    Oh, WHERE did I say that you were “laughing at the fact she called someone a nutcase”? I never did, but you carried on as though she never said it at all and then over on the Adam Lambert article you’re going on about josie and Steve-O’s opinions of Adam being gay for Christ sake…”make sense now”…doubt it! The only ones who CAN “LISTEN” and “UNDERSTAND” you are the mentally challenged or should I say NUTCASES!!!! Jeeze, that must be why you get along so well with the 3 stooges, hahahahaha!!

  143. Nancy • June 11, 2009 @ 7:22 PM

    Oh…and maybe you won’t comment on this article again but I’m sure your NUTCASE sister Jody will!

  144. Nancy • June 11, 2009 @ 7:23 PM

    Come on Jody…give me your best “nutcase”! 😉

  145. tributegirl • June 11, 2009 @ 8:53 PM

    demigod on June 11, 2009 3:55 AM

    Nah, I’m not sore about what you said, because it was just a nothing comment anyway. I really don’t have to “follow up” on anything, you did make several very sexist comments, they are all there in black and white, in the archives.
    By the way, I laughed my head off when you said something to Nancy about you being sexiEst!

  146. Carol • June 11, 2009 @ 9:46 PM

    I have an idea, Let’s DO OVER this article again. Should the kid get a do-over, I vote no…
    That was the topic, wasn’t it?
    I tell you, after a rough day at work, it is stress releasing to come on here and read the comments. Honestly, you guys crack me up…I needed this after today..lol

  147. Nancy • June 11, 2009 @ 10:06 PM

    Thanks Carol….it’s actually a teenie weenie bit stressful on here chasing all these NUTCASES around too, LOL.

  148. nancy • June 11, 2009 @ 10:16 PM

    to bad you all are a bunch of b*tches

  149. mandee • June 11, 2009 @ 10:18 PM

    carol, i think she still deserved a do-over. sorry to hear youve been stressed out today 🙁

  150. Nancy • June 11, 2009 @ 10:19 PM

    I also have to address Anon/Gina about something here….accusing ME of living in a trailer park or housing project? Meanwhile you admitted to moving your kids into and sponging off your mommy and daddy for the longest time too…??? Hahahaha. And don’t even deny the sponging or try to backtrack and say your parents were ailing and needed help and were getting their medications mixed up like you said before because that’s BS like the rest of your life. You flat out told us that you needed them to babysit your kids, cook your meals, etc…you don’t let someone who can’t even dispense their own meds cook or be in the care of children. Anyways, I really don’t give a sh!t about your life but don’t make like you are any better than those who do live in house trailers or the projects, LOL. Oh, and I am also a very good friend to my “friends”….you guys are not my “friends”.

  151. Nancy • June 11, 2009 @ 10:22 PM

    nancy June 11, 2009 @ 10:16 PM

    Nice try, dumb@$$! Let me guess…hmmm…..could your real name be….Jody? Is THAT your best, “nutcase”? HAHAHAHAHA!!

  152. jody • June 11, 2009 @ 10:40 PM

    from what i see you always run around pretending youre a perfect saint, and the perfect mother. the difference between you and i is, i would never allow a man to beat my children. you are clearly not a good mother if you wouldnt even protect your own children from someone that was abusing them. and from what i can tell, i dont think HE was the psychotic one in that relationship. every time you post another stupid
    rude comment it just proves that joanne was right all along. your kids were better off with their father. no one deserves to be stuck with a sick mother like you.and at least i dont spend all my time drinking coolers i spend my time raising my child not being drunk

  153. jody • June 11, 2009 @ 10:42 PM

    and you can stop pretending im doing things im not that is very childish if you ask me

  154. demigod • June 12, 2009 @ 1:59 AM

    tributegirl on June 11, 2009 8:53 PM

    Really? I was that blatant? Didn’t realize..May have been your interpretation? The only thing I recall saying that was borderline was, ‘I know you better than you know yourselves’ You must know I meant that lightheartedly. Perhaps I should have put a little smiley face in there to make it more palatable 😉
    Anyways, you can think what you want. I won’t try to dissuade you. Your opinion.
    Tg, you do seem level-headed, and are rarely offensive, though I’ll never understand your seemingly undying support of Nancy, and how you often buy what she’s selling. You seem smarter/wiser than that.

  155. Anon • June 12, 2009 @ 2:18 AM

    Nancy on June 11, 2009 10:19 PM

    Correction, didn’t need them, but it was soooo nice. No daycare costs, dinners cooked before I got home from work, kids laundry done, hell my laundry done����God I miss those days. I��ll keep you posted on whether we will be going back; that should keep your mind off Mandee for a while. I was hoping we could just continue where we left off, but alas they are getting a little too old to pick up all the crap off my daughter��s floor �� I should be able to fix that pretty quick and whip them back into shape. Don��t want to limit myself to just a financial sponge when I can suck the life out of them as well. Enough ammo or would you like more?

  156. Anon • June 12, 2009 @ 2:20 AM

    demigod on June 12, 2009 1:59 AM

    Busy working? lol

  157. mandee • June 12, 2009 @ 3:31 AM

    Anon on June 12, 2009 2:18 AM oh my god lol. youre hilarious. i think i like you more every time you post 😀 see that? no CREEPY smiley for you

  158. Jo-Anne • June 12, 2009 @ 9:44 AM

    ditto mandee…

  159. Nancy • June 12, 2009 @ 10:09 AM

    Anon/Gina: Like I said “I really don’t give a sh!t about your life, but don’t make like you are any better than anyone else”.

    Jody: FYI, I rarely ever drink…not that it’s any of your business anyways, and I NEVER “allowed” anyone to “beat” my children. You truly are nuts. I never said I was “a perfect Saint”, I also never said I am a “perfect mom” but I am a good mom and there is nothing you can say or do to change that. Even as a single parent my home is very clean, kids are well taken care of and I have a “job” to pay for everything…don’t have to sponge off the taxpayers, unlike yourself. So, instead of biting the hand that feeds you…try getting a job, schizo!! You really are more mental than any of us think…especially if you think for one minute that children are better off with someone who abuses them…then you have the audacity to ASSUME you are a better mom than me. Hell, you can’t even provide for your child. LMAO.

  160. Nancy • June 12, 2009 @ 3:48 PM

    Now THAT’S funny! LOL

  161. tributegirl • June 12, 2009 @ 5:53 PM

    Demigod! Whoa! I nearly fell off my chair!
    Ok, well, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, but I do want to tell you that yes, a few of your comments did come across as being very sexist, I don’t know if you would be able to re-read them and try to see it through a woman’s eyes? Maybe that isn’t how you intended your comments to sound, but it is how it sounded to women. It didn’t seem lighthearted at the time, it seemed like you really meant it, but I’ll take your word for it.
    Thanks for the compliments, I try to be level-headed and non-offensive, but I admit that sometimes I just can’t help myself!
    RE: Nancy, I’ll bet if she took mandees advise that time and changed her name so no one knew it was her, people wouldn’t jump on her so fast. I really think that as soon as people see her name, they brace themselves, ready for a fight, even if she makes “lighthearted” comments. I think people almost want to fight with her, maybe because they know it will be a really good fight? When I read her comments (I don’t mean the ones that are in the middle of a fight, I mean just normal comments on an article), I find her to be very quick witted, really funny, and sharp. Take her “diva” comment for example. It was a simple comment, if you had of said it, or someone else, nothing would have happened. But it had her name attached, and all h*ll broke loose. She’s here for the same reason as the rest of us, to just have some fun, and if treated fairly, she’ll treat you fairly back. That’s why she & I have gotten along so well, we treat each other fairly and don’t play dirty.

  162. demigod • June 12, 2009 @ 5:56 PM

    Anon on June 12, 2009 2:20 AM

    It’s been a slow week..

  163. jody • June 12, 2009 @ 6:18 PM

    funny your hand doesn’t feed me nancy your hand is to busy holding your booze or smacking a kid and im not on welfare.and i payed into canada pension so im not sponging off anyone.so go have another cooler

  164. Nancy • June 12, 2009 @ 6:52 PM

    Yeah, I’ll get right on that! FYI, I’ve had 2 vodka coolers in a year and don’t smack my kids…do you?…so go f@ck yourself NUTCASE! BTW, all “working” taxpayers hands feed you…you are not old enough to have paid enough into CP to live off of for the rest of your life and a “disability pension” is Community Services which is a form of welfare. But, I have nothing…absolutely nothing against anyone on disability or welfare. They are there for people who need them. I just like razzing the hell out of you….WHY??? Because I can! LMAO.

  165. demigod • June 12, 2009 @ 7:17 PM

    tributegirl on June 12, 2009 5:53 PM

    It was your interpretation. I don’t need to re-read – I know what/how I said it. I meant them. No smiley faces needed. Like I said, it was that kind of week..the comments called for it. It was all too one-sided.
    I often play the devil’s advocate (if you haven’t noticed)for a purpose- to make a point. You can say it’s part of my ‘style’. Some see it as opposing the general consensus, so they rush to judgement. Then the accusations fly. Some see my comments for what they are -another perspective, or another TRUTH. And some hate me for it.
    But who cares..it’s just the internet, not an election for office 🙂

  166. jody • June 12, 2009 @ 7:38 PM

    i honestly find you pretty funny and your comments are not bothering me at all…and im happy to hear that you think you no how old i am

  167. Nancy • June 12, 2009 @ 7:52 PM

    Well, I’m not positive of your age, I’m not going to go find it but mandee did mention it to us. I believe it was between 25 and 30 but like I said I’m not positive. Either way, it doesn’t matter because unless you had an awesome paying job and worked for at least 30 years, CP doesn’t pay enough to live off of, not without being combined with another income. Hey, I pay CP too so you can’t tell me otherwise. 😛

  168. jody • June 12, 2009 @ 8:54 PM

    lmao i wish i was between 25 and 30

  169. tributegirl • June 12, 2009 @ 9:36 PM

    Can I ask how old you are, jody?

  170. Nancy • June 12, 2009 @ 9:51 PM

    Like I said, it doesn’t matter…you still haven’t paid in enough to completely live off of it! LOL.

  171. mandee • June 12, 2009 @ 10:00 PM

    haha i never said how old my sister is, im not even 100% sure how old she is. i said how old **I** am. and can i ask you why you want to know how old my sister is tg?

  172. Nancy • June 12, 2009 @ 11:35 PM

    Oh really, mandee? I beg to differ…

    Check out April 7, 2009 Angelina Jolie collapsed on Salt set article, mandee’s comment on April 8, 2009 @ 11:20 PM:

    “i am only 24, so its not like im too old to live at home. my brother lives at home and hes 26 and his gf also lives here and shes 27. my sister and her hubby and kid live upstairs and they are 39, 42 and 12.”

  173. Nancy • June 12, 2009 @ 11:36 PM

    Took me like 20 seconds to find that. LOL.

  174. Nancy • June 12, 2009 @ 11:37 PM

    I mean…how the heck does someone not know how old their own sister is? 😀

  175. mandee • June 12, 2009 @ 11:38 PM

    i dont know if shes 39, i was guessing her age. maybe because i cant remember how old she was when i was born? i dont go around asking. and there ya go 🙂 you have so much free time you are searching through all the articles so you can copy and paste. im glad i have a life and dont need to be soo petty. 🙂 see that? CREEPY smiley for you nancy.

  176. Nancy • June 12, 2009 @ 11:52 PM

    Read….20 seconds! I already knew which article you said it on, LOL. I have a life too…and a very good memory. 😀 back at ya!

  177. Jo-Anne • June 13, 2009 @ 3:57 PM

    oh my God, Nancy, you “KNEW” what article it was on??????

    just keeps getting better…

    I would laugh my “ha ha” but it’s just too darn sad!!!!!!!!!!!

  178. tributegirl • June 13, 2009 @ 4:26 PM

    mandee, I was just curious.

  179. Nancy • June 13, 2009 @ 5:00 PM

    Well Jo-Anne, it really wasn’t much. We all know that mandee likes Angelina Jolie…it was an Angelina article. I knew it was the article where I mentioned “the full moon” and “schizophrenia”….and all of you FREAKED!! And, I knew that there were about 200 comments on the article…so yeah, 20 seconds because I “KNEW” where it was. See, unlike your beiefs that I am “uneducated” and “unintelligent”, I am very smart and have an awesome memory. So you can think it is “sad” all you want…you only wish your brain was as up to par as mine!

    Oh…and I will laugh my “hahahahahaha”!

  180. Nancy • June 13, 2009 @ 5:02 PM

    Oh Oh…I better put that ‘l’ in “beliefs”…god forbid my keys stick after my son spilled soda!!!

  181. tributegirl • June 13, 2009 @ 7:45 PM

    I hope you smacked him good! hahahahhaha!

  182. demigod • June 13, 2009 @ 8:22 PM

    I hope he smacks back 🙂

  183. demigod • June 13, 2009 @ 8:28 PM

    Hey everyone, I met Donovan Bailey last night at a bar 🙂 Tried for a pic with him, but my camera cellphone charge was too weak for the flash to go off..grr

  184. mandee • June 13, 2009 @ 9:14 PM

    joanne, youre wasting your time trying to talk to nancy. we all know she has nothing better to do than look through all the articles so she can post everything everyone has ever said. wish i had that much time on my hands. unfortunately, i only allow my brain to remember IMPORTANT things. no sense wasting it all on garbage online gossip, right?

  185. lily • June 13, 2009 @ 9:38 PM

    Donovan Bailey..cool!

  186. tributegirl • June 14, 2009 @ 1:01 PM

    Way cool, demigod!

  187. mandee • June 14, 2009 @ 6:24 PM

    oh my sister just showed me the site you must be talking about. heres what my comment was (on the john travoltas son dead at 16 article) : mandee on January 4, 2009 9:16 PM

    i feel very sorry for this family, and even if jett DID have autism, its not like its a big deal. its not like that is the REASON behind his death. and i know nothing about scientology, except that it makes tom cruise a psycho. lol. so i do disagree with it, and i completely understand that everyone has their own right and beliefs on scientology. i dont see why anyone should be saying rude things, or starting a fight over someone discussing their views on scientology, death, or anything. i could understand someone in scientology deciding they would jump in to defend their beliefs, but to bring up other religions? a religion is very often something YOU CHOOSE. so its not like they are bashing something that is in no way anyones fault here. people need to mind their own business when there is 2 ADULTS discussing anything on here.

    where did i say he isnt autistic? huh, must be that oh “soo smart” nancy once again proving what an idiot she REALLY is. the person you are referring to that said that his son wasnt autistic was :

    r0ckst4r on January 4, 2009 3:59 AM

    In response to Nancy claim that Jett was autistic: Actually, he wasn��t. He did suffer from Kawasaki disease, which is immeasurably different from autism in many ways. Kawasaki disease develops from a fever and causes skin rashes/peeling in early stages. Also, Kawasaki disease affects the organs in the body (mostly the heart) while autism affects the brain. Austism and Kawasaki disease have almost nothing in common except for the fact that scientists no very little about both diseases. So the fact that John and Kelly �didn��t want to acknowledge�� his supposed autism had nothing to do with their beliefs in Scientology. It was because he wasn��t autistic. And because Kawasaki disease is primarily found in Japan and not the US his parents most likely tested him for autism long before testing him for Kawasaki disease.

    so genius, next time you try to ACCUSE me of saying things, perhaps you should get your facts straight? guess that “pea sized brain” of yours doesnt work properly after all?

  188. Nancy • June 14, 2009 @ 6:36 PM

    Hahaha…”i havent even spoke TO you in how long?”

    No…you just make comments to others ABOUT me, right mandee? (mandee, 9:14 PM June 13)

    I actually remember alot of things mandee, not “only” things you, Jo-Anne and Anon/Gina have said. Then again, you 3 + 1 more are about the only ones on here who frequently say “I didn’t say that”. You want to know which article you said it on, you go find the articles where Jett Travolta died! I mean, we all know you have nothing better to do except cash UI cheques, right? So, who picked this fight here now between yesterday and today? I never said anything more until you started babbling to Jo-Anne about me again! Stop the BS and I won’t have to “keep ragging” on you about your “life”. FYI, my husband never left me and he doesn’t stand a chance to ever get my kids. After what I’ve said on here about him, you’re obviously more nuts than ever to think that any child would be better off with him. Maybe I should say “Oh, no wonder you got raped…you’re too dumb to keep a real boyfriend”, huh? As for my “poorly written” comments, hahahaha. I am by far more educated than you mandee, so, look into your own comments! 😉

  189. demigod • June 14, 2009 @ 6:39 PM

    Nancy on June 14, 2009 5:45 PM

    I’m still waiting for Tribute to have an article re Madonna’s new bf. I’m DYING to make a comment.:)

  190. Nancy • June 14, 2009 @ 7:15 PM

    I bet you are, demigod! Maybe you can shed your skin while you wait, LOL.

    Mandee, you didn’t agree with the article that was written by the New York Post that I had posted under my name which described Jett Travolta as being autistic. Instead you described your 12 year old nieces symptoms. So you didn’t believe it. And that would be WHY he died. He had a seizure from not getting the medication he needed for autism and fell and hit his head.

  191. Nancy • June 14, 2009 @ 7:17 PM

    Mandee, Jan. 5, 2009 @ 12:20 PM Jett Travolta Dead at 16 article:

    “im just saying, lol the article is wrong in so many ways.”

  192. Jo-Anne • June 14, 2009 @ 7:23 PM

    wrong, Nance, mandee is way way up on you…by the time she reaches your ripe ol’ age will be in a far better place than you as well, I am sure…

    it’s not always all about who can yell louder, we ALL know you got here beat there…but mandee comes across with the gifts of compassion, sincerity and forgiveness, all of which you reflect zero…

    my bet is on her to succeed in her endeavours in years to come and somehow I feel confident you will still be sitting at home, typing immature insults to whoever ticks you off that day and still, years later, carrying a chip on your shoulder for all the times mandee, myself, anon, etc. got the better of you…

  193. Jo-Anne • June 14, 2009 @ 7:23 PM

    “her”…

  194. mandee • June 14, 2009 @ 7:57 PM

    very well said joanne. nancy, just because i disagreed with the way the article you posted was written, doesnt mean i disagreed that he had autism. i never personally met the travoltas, so i would NEVER say that he DID NOT have autism. you take what you want from every post anyone on here makes and then you twist it to your own sick and demented ways and then say WE always “play the innocent” say we “didnt say that” thats because we KNOW what we MEANT when we said what we said. you didnt know, you just took your twisted meanings and tried to cause more drama. and cashing my ui cheques?!? HA HA HA HA HA i have been unemployed for all of 2 weeks EXACTLY today. i dont get my cheque until the end of the month/beginning of next month. and last time i checked, the recession and my work closing were not MY fault, so you can go on and on about how im unemployed, but i have spent the last 8 years paying into unemployment, so im just getting MY money back thanks. and my niece hasnt had her meds in a while, she hasnt DIED from not getting them yet. so youre wrong. it had nothing to do with his autism, it had to do with his seizure, which EVEN people that ARENT autistic get. once again nancy, where did i accuse you of being “uneducated” ??? see? thats youre sick twisting of what i was saying. you have yet to prove that i said he wasnt autistic, so i forgive you for your stupid pettiness. 🙂 and i never once said it wasnt my fault what happened to me from my psycho ex, as a matter of fact i know it WAS my fault for staying with him. so you can go on about that all you want it wont change anything. and you are just as deranged as your ex, so those kids should have been taken by CAS a long time ago.

  195. Nancy • June 14, 2009 @ 8:52 PM

    Awe, come on mandee, just because someone says something to you that you don’t like or has qualities that you don’t like, etc., doesn’t mean that CAS should come and take away their kids, does it? Jeeze, their buildings would be overflowing with kids!! LMAO. You know what I’m wondering? I’m wondering what Lily thinks of how you’re acting now? 😀

  196. Anon • June 14, 2009 @ 10:01 PM

    Nancy on June 14, 2009 7:15 PM

    I actually I have some experience with the syndrome and have two friends that have autistic kids. I’ve never heard of autistic seizures. Secondly, there are many, many forms of autism. Some low functioning, but many more are high functioning autistics that you couldn’t tell apart from anyone else at school, work or out in the street. I have a family member that has Asperser��s Disorder (autism), yet scored in the 98 percentile intellectually. Seizures may be more common among autistics, but there is no such thing as autistic seizures. If he was having seizures, the meds would have been for his epilepsy, not this autism. So, the epilepsy contributed to his death, not the autism.

  197. Anon • June 14, 2009 @ 10:10 PM

    So I guess you could say that mandee was somewhat right and maybe that’s why she explained her niece’s symptoms and didn’t believe the article….that you need seizure meds if you are an epileptic, not autistic

  198. Nancy • June 15, 2009 @ 10:00 AM

    First of all mandee, I thought you weren’t going to comment to me? Secondly, I’m not dragging lily into this, it’s just that she offered her opinion of how highly she thinks of you that I’m wondering what she thinks of your stupidity now. Third, I love my kids more than life itself and have made it VERY CLEAR that I would always allow them to “temporarily” come back to my home…their home, until they get back on their feet…but I will not allow them to “sponge” for the rest of their lives, BIG DIFFERENCE, mandee! Oh…and about your parents not being “crazy” so you must have “been raised better” than my kids…doubtful, very doubtful. Your parents must be mentally challenged as well to have produced so many mentally challenged children, LOL. As if I would ever listen to a 24 year old “nutcase” tell me to “shut up”. Save your energy for job searching mandee. Here’s my proof mandee, I posted the New York Post article “claiming” that Jett Travolta was autistic. You admitted that you read it and your comment was “i completely disagree with the article”. So to most, that means that you disagree he was autistic. Anyways, it’s over and done with so no need to backpedal now. 😛


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