Chris Brown says he “ain’t a monster.”
By Paul on May 28, 2009 | 123 Comments
R&B singer and actor Chris Brown pleaded his case to fans over an internet video. Brown comments briefly on the incident that left his then-girlfriend bruised and battered and led to his arrest in a homemade video—made with Bow Wow at NBA star Shaquille O’Neal’s house. Brown addresses his fans about his upcoming projects and concludes by telling them that he “ain’t a monster.” “I don’t do all this talking on the thing, this is just some new stuff I’m doing,” Brown says (unedited) in the YouTube video. “I just wanna say ‘What’s up?,’ because I ain’t been out there in a minute. But the new album is gonna be coming soon. We working on it right now. It’s called Graffiti. It’s got everything on it, so y’all be ready for that. I’m about to drop a single this summer for y’all. We ain’t going nowhere. Everybody that’s haters, they just been haters. All my real fans, I love you. I ain’t a monster.”
Ex-girlfriend Rihanna is reportedly still claiming that she knows that it was Brown who leaked the naked photos of her on the web earlier this month. According to an unsubstantiated source, a friend of the singer said that Rihanna “was saying crazy things like, ‘I’m going to burn down his house!” But the sources added that Rihanna has calmed down but plans to release less-than-flattering photos of him and telling all about his sexual prowess.
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�ain��t a monster.��?? I beg to differ, Chris.
Wow, his use of the english language is really something, “ain’t” it?
Haha right u are tributegirl
agreed.
these guys are lucky to have a career despite having not talent.
they can’t write their own lyrics, let alone write a speech…. it plagues me to see how this music is what most would consider mainstream and what all the kids like… goes to show why we are losing our culture..
woops… i made a typo!
lol
guess i need an editor…
i wonder how he would feel if he had a daughter and someone beat her, then publicly denied it? would he say they are a monster or would he say they “aint” no monster?
He sounds soo ghetto.
Nah, I wouldn’t say he’s a “monster”….I say he’s a COWARD woman beater who needs to own up to his actions and stop playing innocent and pleading “not guilty”…then maybe people can forgive what he’s done and move on.
He’s not sorry the only thing this shit is worried about right now is jail time and his career. The crap he puts out is exactly that craaaap!!!!!!!! And some people call this music.
I’m not defending him, but he isn’t a monster. He’s a young guy that that is going through the most violent time of his life �� 15 to 25 when emotions run high and out of control. At least he��s being taught his lesson early and may change before the pattern becomes too ingrained.
I fully disagree. There are hormonal periods in life, but not violent periods. That is fully unacceptable behaviour. No one has a right to put their hands on anyone else, not on me, tribute girl, Nancy, Anon/Gina, nobody. There is no excuse and there is no violent time in life. He is not going through anything tougher than a lot of us have. Everyone has difficult times in life, but you don’t beat up someone over it, and if that is what you want to do, pick on someone who can defend himself.
I hope he will change, and it is possible, but very few do. It’s not easy and you have to want to. So when the guilt wears off, will Chris still want to change? Or is this just a bunch of hot air.
Unfortunately, I think it is hot air and I hope that hot air puts and keeps Chris Brown in the hot seat. He does deserve punishment for this, and it has to be something strong enough to hopefully deter our younger people who look up to him to think twice about committing domestic violence.
Carol on May 29, 2009 9:53 PM
Actually statistically, this period is most violent time in a man��s life. (Insurance industry stats, I work in the industry) Look around, school fights, bar fights, accidents, drugs, drinking and driving, hazing, killings etc. And last but not least, LOVE! A very intense emotion for young men and I personally I think men fall harder and have a harder time controlling their emotions in that department. �Violence�� is a part of boy/men��s makeup. When my son was younger, I jumped on the �no guns�� or other violent toys policy and my kid was making them out of toast, bending barbies in half and using them as guns, making the ninja turtles beat up ken while he was getting married. lol I eventually gave in and bought him whatever toy weapons he wanted and he��s grown into a very loving and gentle person. Like I said, I am not defending his actions, but you have to seriously take a look around to see that this is not a unusual case. He may have never been given the tools or taught how to direct or channel his anger. His father tried to downplay the whole thing, so maybe this was the norm in his household. Regardless, he was charged and will no doubt have to go for some sort of counselling which would be a far better learning lesson that doing time.
And that’s the end of my book lol
Anon on May 29, 2009 10:27 PM
Culture and genetics are factors..
demigod on May 29, 2009 11:30 PM
Don’t get me started on that one!!! lol
Okay, yes “culture” is a factor. But that doesn’t mean ethnicity. Could be influenced by the pop/rap/rock “culture”. Could be he was brought up in a Middle Eastern country that supports this kind of treatment, but definitely not the culture or norm of an entire race brought up in North America. I tend to look at this behaviour as coming from someone who lacks education, resources and financially stability (ie. ghetto life); all contributing factors…along with the genetics. lol
Anon on May 30, 2009 12:12 AM
Who said anything about ethnicity? 🙂
demigod on May 30, 2009 3:03 AM
Great, thanks for throwing that one out! lol
Instigator!!!! You knew I would take the bait. ha
When I grew up and through my 20’s, the guys were the ones primarily to fight, but not a lot. I don’t know about these stats that you are talking aobut, so I can’t dispute them, but he could go to the gym and use a punching bag. Stats or no stats, what he did was wrong! He really deserves to be punished. I have two brothers, neither one of them are or ever were woman beaters…nor was my dad or his brothers, or my mothers’s brother…
�Violence�� is a part of boy/men��s makeup.’ u been goin to skool with mande?
Carol on May 30, 2009 10:53 AM
I��m talking natural instincts��.men hunted we gathered nuts which is why women are more social while men express their feeling physically. Men fight on the soccer fields, we don��t, men haze, we don��t, men will physically fight over us, well other than maybe Nancy, we don��t ������.road rage, wars (right from childhood with their little army men), UFC etc etc etc. How many male shelters are in your area? I am not condoning beating women; just generalizing that violence is predominately an instinctual male trait.
This whole generation of young boys/men are brought up to suppress their natural instincts. Gone are the days of resolving your conflicts on your own; we have zero touch policies in schools where both parties are punished when one instigated. This isn��t a resolution; this only intensifies and internalizes anger because of the injustice. When I was younger people hashed out their issues and it was over with. Now they��re left with internalizing their frustration, which leads to some poor kid snapping and coming to school with a weapon. Unfortunately, boy��s needs are poorly understood by society and these needs are sorely being neglected while all are catering to the female, ie eating disorders, image, pregnancies, equality, your right to say no, the list goes on forever. There are no supports in place for boys that actually take their genetic makeup into consideration. All we are trying to do is squash and replace their characteristics with our own. Yet, when we hear of a guy lashing out because of our failure to guide these young men, we jump on the male bashing, women abusers wagon. We are ramming female traits down their throats and it doesn��t work. The male species is even becoming physically feminized from all the chemicals in our water. Like I said, he was charged and will hopefully not be doled out some kind of primitive punishment that will ultimately just instil fear but not address his real issues.
moondog on May 30, 2009 12:36 PM
Whatever; violence, aggression, assertiveness��.Whatever politically right phrase best suits you for this purpose. That Better?
nope and fix ur webpage
moondog on May 30, 2009 1:33 PM
haha ok thanks 🙂 The webpage was a jab to nancy many moons ago! But has since stopped working. I just couldnt be bothered changing it.
Fixed.
Here’s one of my daughter’s spoof on the ring/ two girls one cup.
moondog on May 30, 2009 12:36 PM no need to drag me into something that has nothing to do with me. perhaps you should at least learn to SPELL the word “skool”? and, mandee has 2 e’s on the end. anon, wow wit that last big post of yours.
mandee on May 30, 2009 2:00 PM
Promise this will be the final of the last great novels. lol sorry got “slightly” carried away there.
Anon/Gina, from what I see, you are talking about survival, there is no need for beating someone, those are two totally different things. And on the field, even though it is a game, it is “survival” in a different sense. And women certainly have caught onto the fighting game…they are just as bad as men in some cases. They had to be tough to survive…just like lions will fight for food or who’s going to get it on with the lioness, but they don’t just go at it unless they have rabies…maybe Chris Brown has rabies?
What he did is wrong Wrong WRONG…there is no stat that convince me otherwise.
oops, anon, i meant with not wit. also, i didnt mean wow as in it was long, i really like the way you worded it and it seemed pretty intelligent. carol, no one can convince me he wasnt wrong either. its starting to sound like he has SOMETHING wrong with him at least.
Anon/Gina: I don’t “physically fight” over men or women, it’s not about that. I also don’t agree with abuse to a man, woman or child when you claim to “love” them. I do however, agree with standing up for yourself and protecting yourself…and sometimes that means “duking it out” to settle an issue…giving a self-righteous, know-it-all, ignorant b!tch a good one right in the mouth…usually only takes one before they learn to shut up about you, that you’re not going to take it. Also Anon/Gina, society is not “neglecting” the male population and “catering” to the females..?? Alot of the female problems you described are contributed to by men. Women don’t get pregnant on their own; we’re still not equal with men at all; image and eating disorders in females are also contributed to by men…a woman’s “right to say ‘no’.”? A woman’s right to say “no”? Because for centuries we weren’t allowed to, we had to cater to men, ask them how their day was, have their hot meal on the table when they walked in the door, rub their feet, do everything for them and yet we were still nothing…nobodies…now we should be penalized because we are fighting to have our own voice? Our government puts so much money into programs for ALL of society…the majority of which, I believe, were caused by men (sorry to say it guys, I have nothing against the male gender but, all the problems she listed with women ARE contributed to by men.). Jails are “mostly” filled by men…which means the courtrooms are mostly filled by men, women’s shelters…have been filled with women…BY MEN. Women aren’t exempt from the blame though but I really don’t think it’s fair to say that men are neglected so that women’s needs can be met and that people are trying to “ram female traits down their throats” because it seems most of these problems that our tax dollar is paying for, are contributed to by men. We need to find a balance between the man and the woman because for so long, men’s “traits” were rammed down the throats of women….and still are, actually.
mandee on May 30, 2009 2:00 PM sur i have to drag u in its fun ur so dense, i spell like this so u will understand
Nancy on May 30, 2009 2:51 PM
Point being what, Nancy? That men are more violent/aggressive/ dominant or whatever other label you want to put on it?
The reference to you was done in jest.
I’m not trying to put labels on men. I also never said that “men are more violent/aggressive/dominant”. I’m saying that there are more men in the system than women and women are not to blame for that, society is not to blame for that. They “chose” this behaviour. So what if he’s from the ghetto? The girl down the street is “from the ghetto” too…she’s not a criminal. My professor was from the ghetto…he’s not a criminal. You choose to either behave or misbehave. I could go get involved in all kinds of criminal activity too…and blame who…society? My parents? Women/men in general? Chris Brown hasn’t even ADMITTED that he did this to Rihanna. Everyone knows he did. I mean, she didn’t beat herself up! He’s sitting in that courtroom claiming he’s “not guilty” and it’s a crock of sh!t. He’s a lying, woman beating, coward!
As for the reference to me, it doesn’t matter, I took no offence really. Everyone who knows me and even most of you on here must know that I don’t just go around beating people, LOL. I definately don’t slouch into a corner and cry while allowing people to walk all over and take advantage of me either though. The world has taken such a downward spiral. Punishment turns into blame, no one takes responsibility for their actions anymore. You can’t even look at someone without getting sued. God forbid you “touch” someone or allow one child to hug another. We live in a technological society where everyone wants computers to run the world and humans are expected to be robots!
hmmm… i can see your point of view nancy, and worded that way it does sound more logical. but, sometimes i do believe that the reason behind these men becoming abusive is because of their parents. it depends on how they were raised, what they saw their fathers do to their mothers, whether or not their parents taught them hitting and violence is not a way to solve anything, and that hitting women is wrong no matter what the circumstances. i do also agree that if someone hits you first (same gender of course) you should have the right to use self defense and inflict the same amount of physical pain they have caused you. moondog, what are you saying? once again, i dont understand gibberish.
Nancy, you are so right…everything boils down to choice. He knows right from wrong, and he chose the wrong path. And for that he deserves to be punished.
She needs help too, because some women have a tendancy to go for these kinds of men, and she could be one, we don’t know. She did go back to him.
I’m so tired of everyone blaming everyone else for thier problems. We do what we do because we chose to do it. Even if we are labeled as “followers” and do what we are told, we still make a choice. He is so in the wrong, and I think he needs to be slapped around a bit, perhaps by a woman who is bigger and meaner than him.
And as for rehabilitation, the idea is good, but the reality is that it is crap. What percentage of people really change…it’s very small. He needs serious consequences for what he has done. There should be no fear that he will EVER have another victim when this is done.
Anon on May 30, 2009 12:46 PM
Good post. You’ve touched on the inherent differences and society’s increasing feminist views.
‘Feminized by chemicals in water’? News to me.
Nancy, you want to blame men for our socio-economical problems? The biggest problem on the planet is overpopulation. I realize it takes the two, but you can put that one squarely on women.
Sure, there are more men in jail. I would estimate 30-40% are non-violent,victimless drug users/offenders. Why do they take drugs? To feel better. About what? About the everyday pressures of careers,money,love,raising a family, and suppressed needs – all to satisfy women.
It’s men taking their lives in greater numbers.
Marriage- a woman’s ideal. Sorry, just because men are willing participants, we are limited by our options.
Impeach Pres.Clinton for a blow-job? A feminized view. Pres.JFK had sex with mistresses, east-german spies, and Marilyn Monroe -no talk of impeachment, and that was the 60’s.
Feminist values permeate our society..sensitivity is more important than truth,feelings are more important than facts,commitment is more important than individuality,children are more important than people,safety is more important than fun..
Women would love to tell you married men live longer. As does an indoor cat..it’s a furball with a broken spirit that can only look out on a world it will never enjoy.
Women play a bigger role and have more influence than you realize Nancypants.
Only Nancy can get a speech out of me!
Demigod, wow, you are deep. I think both are valid points, but bottom line, male, female, tall, short, black, white, we know right from wrong, and when Nancy said it is a choice, she hit the nail on the head. It’s choice, he chose to hit her. And if he cannot control that anger, he should be counselled strongly and not get involved until he feels very confident he can control his anger. And that could be years, if ever.
And she chose to go back shortly after for a bit, according to the tabloids.
Carol on May 30, 2009 8:16 PM
A choice that comes easier to women, as they don’t have the predisposition that men have. It’s so easy to call out men as the more physically violent..
A woman also has a choice in how she conducts her own behaviour in what she does/say. That can be just as damaging and hurtful.
Ouch, demigod. I understand what you are saying, but I disagree with a couple things.
1) blaming overpopulation on women. Sorry, but a woman can usually only have 1 pregnancy each year, so if we were all to make babies as much as possible, a woman could reproduce approximately once per year, a man can make many babies each year.
2) saying that men take drugs to feel better about all the pressure women put on them. That’s crap, plain and simple.
3) marriage is a woman’s ideal, men have limited options. I agree that women traditionally dreamed of marriage, but there are becoming fewer and fewer women all the time who dream of marriage. I disagree that men have limited options.
4) comparing a married man to an indoor cat, saying his spirit is broken. I know loads of married men who are anything but broken, they live their lives the way they want, and I know of many women who’s spirits are broken because of the men they are married to.
Well written Tributegirl. I don’t think sex makes the choice easier or harder. And I think Chris Brown is a jackass. He needs help, and if he ever touches anyone again, he should have his hands chopped off. Seriously, let’s see him punch someone then.
Ok, that was book 1, here’s book 2, the things I totally agreed with in demigod’s 7:52 pm comment.
1) It��s men taking their lives in greater numbers. Yes it is, and sometimes it is a woman in their lives who have driven them to that, sometimes it is other factors.
2)Impeach Pres.Clinton for a blow-job? A feminized view. Definitely. And I have to say, when all that was happening, I thought it was the most rediculous thing I had ever heard of, cheating is a crappy thing to do to one’s partner, but I don’t believe it is grounds for dismissal from a person’s job (unless maybe they are messing with the boss’s daughter?).
3)Feminist values permeate our society. I do agree with that totally as well, sensitivity and feelings and being politically correct are completely taking over our society, and it drives me crazy! I can’t stand it!
4)Women play a bigger role and have more influence than you realize. Definitely, but like any other group (not sure if the words “special interest” applies?), it will never be enough.
One thing Gina mentioned about the chemicals in the water that seem to be feminizing men, definitely, apparently it mostly comes from women using birth control pills. I’m sure you can figure out how that gets into our water supply!
Demigod, I’m not looking to argue with you here, obviously we have some similar views, and some different ones, and I usually really enjoy reading your posts, but you wrote an unusually long one and I really wanted to reply!
Carol, don’t know about the chopping the hands off thing, but I totally agree he is a jackass, and that he choose to beat her up (if he didn’t choose to, then does that mean he has some condition, like tourette’s or something, where he cannot control himself?). No one was holding a gun to his head.
tributegirl on May 30, 2009 9:09 PM
1)Ultimately a woman’s decision.Period.
2)Pressure from a feminized society! In part,yes.
3)Marriage and monogamy is a woman’s ideal. If men had the sexual options women have,none would marry(well, very few)
4)Married for a prolong time..let’s face it,you’re comfortably numb at best. Interpersonal relationships with other women is limited. It goes against every fibre of a man’s being to procreate. Married men don’t desire other women? Marriage is a compromise.
1) Usually yes, I agree with that, but not always. The woman I know who was not “permitted” to leave the home by her first husband (thankfully she got the courage to pack up the kids and run), and even had to remove her own wisdom tooth, she would not have been the one in that relationship deciding if/when to have children.
2) And the women who commit suicide, I expect most often it is because of the pressure they feel from the main man in their lives.
3) Sexual options women have? If a couple are in a monogamous relationship, that means she is limited in her sexual options as well. Sex shops have many products specifically for men as well, it’s not all dildo’s!
4) I guess that would be both people in the marriage that would be comfortably numb, not just the man. Married women often desire other men too. “It goes against every fibre of a man��s being to procreate.” I definitely disagree with that, some men yes, but certainly not all, or even most.
Yes, marriage is a compromise, and it’s not for everyone, in fact I think it is not for a lot of people. Obviously marriage is not for you, I used to think it was for me, but now that I’m older I can see other choices that are as good or better. With age comes experience, I guess!
Wow demigod, I’m touched that only I can get a speech out of you…it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside, LOL. I like “Nancycakes” better than “Nancypants” though. 😛
Carol: re: chopping off his hands….you and I, together, should get to make the laws. Things would be so different! LMAO. Then we would all have to pay for them to be on disability if they had no hands. Could everyone here just imagine though, if this trial would be taking the same turn and what peoples opinions would be if it were a child that he beat…or an elderly person?
Nancy on May 30, 2009 10:27 PM
Still think I’m ‘sexiest’ 🙂
Yeah sure, you’re “sexiEst”. You wouldn’t happen to be partial to “camoflauge” now would you? Leotards? Spandex? Biggie Smalls? Metallica? YESSSS! Metallica! We have something in common! 😛
But, I think you meant “sexist”. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Just got back from watching my daughter perform Little Red in a production called Into the Woods. Once filming is done and IF anyone is interested, I��ll post the link to youtube. I��m very proud of her accomplishments 🙂 🙂 🙂
Interesting comments tonight.
Carol on May 30, 2009 2:43 PM
Subconsciously, all we do is based on “survival” and you can apply that to any situation. You��re still missing the point. There are campaigns on domestic violence as well as other female suppressing ideology, yet we have increasing violence. No doubt, public education has helped change quite a bit in the equal rights department, but hasn��t done a whole lot for the boys/young men we are raising. I��m not trying to convince you of anything, you have your outlook, I have mine. You believe in punishment, I believe in LEARNING self control. In one post you say rehab is a crock that does nothing, yet in the next post you feel he needs to be counselled strongly, which is it?
Nancy on May 30, 2009 4:38 PM
�I also never said that �men are more violent/aggressive/dominant��. I��m saying that there are more men in the system than women and women are not to blame for that, society is not to blame for that��
But if they fill our jails and are the perpetrators of most violent crimes, they are the violent species. And yes they are to blame for that, but why such large numbers if they are �individual�� aggressors. Everything you��ve said boils down to the same thing I��ve said.
Demigod
Not just birth control that is polluting and feminizing the male species and it is not limited to just marine life. If you read up on the topic, it is documented in medical publications as well as the usual media outlets. Very scary stuff.
What the heck! I’m being moderated??? There isn’t a word in my post that would raise a flag!
Nancy on May 30, 2009 10:55 PM
For me, Metallica died along with Cliff Burton. It’s sad when my 2 fave tracks off the Black album are ballads. There hasn’t been a band that I used to love so much that I ended up hating even more.
Anon on May 31, 2009 1:52 AM
I’ve been experiencing the same thing as of late..
Demigod,
marriage is a commitment, and if men don’t want to commit, well again, it is choice. It is NOT women saying let’s do this. I was going out with my now husband eight months before HE asked ME to marry him. And I did not pose the question at all to him. And we are not having children together, we each have our own, so why would he ask me. Because perhaps he WANTED to. Wow, and I didn’t have to put a gun to his head. Men are not meant to sleep around, if they want that, then they should just stay out of relationships and play the field.
Nancy, I think the beaters should have their hands cut off, or maybe just start with a finger or two, and the sexual predators should 1. Males – have their 2nd head cut off 2. Females, the scarlet letter, but permanently tattooed, unless there is something we can cut off or sew up on them.
But you are right, the bleeding hearts of the world would want us to pay disability to them. But I would put them all on an island together, so they could fight and play amongst themselves.
Anon, I have a comment from 10:06 last night to demigod that is still awaiting moderation, that hasn’t happened to me in a looong time, and I’m not sure why it is awaiting. I think maybe because I used the word “di1d0” in my comment, but just spelled it out? I know that sounds weird, but it fits into the comment, as we were discussing who has more sexual options, men or women. Well, we were discussing other things as well…. Hopefully it won’t get deleted, I don’t want to have to retype the whole thing!
demigod on May 30, 2009 7:52 PM
“children are more important than people”
ummm, I got news for you, buddy, children ARE people. And maybe this is my gender talking, I don’t know, but in my opinion, children’s needs are more important than adults, because children are dependant and cannot meet their own needs, adults can usually take care of themselves.
I have cleaned up my comments from 1:14 last night and attempting to repost.
Just got back from watching my daughter perform Little Red in a production called Into the Woods. Once filming is done and if anyone is interested, I��ll post the link to you tube. I��m very proud of her accomplishments
Very interesting comments tonight.
Carol on May 30, 2009 2:43 PM
Subconsciously, all we do is based on “survival” and you can apply that to any situation. You��re still missing the point. There are campaigns on domestic violence as well as other female suppressing ideology, yet we have increasing violence. No doubt, public education has helped change quite a bit in the equal rights department, but hasn��t done a whole lot for the boys/young men we are raising. I��m not trying to convince you of anything, you have your outlook, I have mine. You believe in punishment, I believe in learning self control. In one post you say rehab is a crock that does nothing, yet in the next post you feel he needs to be counselled strongly, which is it?
Nancy on May 30, 2009 4:38 PM
�I also never said that �men are more violent/aggressive/dominant��. I��m saying that there are more men in the system than women and women are not to blame for that, society is not to blame for that��
But if they fill our jails and are the perpetrators of most violent crimes, they are the violent species. And yes they are to blame for that, but why such large numbers if they are �individual�� aggressors. Everything you��ve said boils down to the same thing I��ve said.
Demigod
Not just birth control that is polluting and feminizing the male species and it is not limited to just marine life. If you read up on the topic, it is documented in medical publications as well as the usual media outlets. As for your comment on what is more important sensitivity/truth, feelings/facts, children/people �� you are partially right. The importance of each changes with every situation. There are times that your kids come before your spouse, when truth serves no purpose and when the safety factor outweighs the fun ��.this coming from a female perspective, of course. lol
I’ve cleaned up my comments and just reposted and being moderated again. This is bull!
tributegirl on May 31, 2009 10:59 AM
You are right, but so is Demigod. There are times that your children come first, others when your spouse needs to come first or you have a serious imbalance. Each take priority at different times as does everything else in life.
Nancy on May 30, 2009 4:38 PM
�I also never said that �men are more violent/aggressive/dominant��. I��m saying that there are more men in the system than women and women are not to blame for that, society is not to blame for that��
But if they fill our jails and are the perpetrators of most violent crimes, they are the violent species. And yes they are to blame for that, but why such large numbers if they are �individual�� aggressors. Everything you��ve said boils down to the same thing I��ve said.
Carol on May 30, 2009 2:43 PM
Subconsciously, all we do is based on “survival” and you can apply that to any situation. You��re still missing the point. There are campaigns on domestic violence as well as other female suppressing ideology, yet we have increasing violence. No doubt, public education has helped change quite a bit in the equal rights department, but hasn��t done a whole lot for the boys/young men we are raising. I��m not trying to convince you of anything, you have your outlook, I have mine. You believe in punishment, I believe in learning self control. In one post you say rehab is a crock that does nothing, yet in the next post you feel he needs to be counselled strongly, which is it?
Wow, I’ve broken down my comments individually and demigod’s is the one being moderated??? Can’t figure it out.
Hmmm…I wonder if that has anything to do with demigod using multiple names….like ‘Coop’ for instance? 😛
Nancy on May 31, 2009 2:29 PM
Don’t know but I’ve changed all comments, broken them down and posted them individually and they took exept his. I changed his as well and it won’t take any directed to him. I’m trying again without the name in the heading.
Attn: Sexist, LOL
It��s not only b control that is polluting and feminizing the male species and it is not limited to just marine life. You can read up on the topic, it is documented in medical reports as well as the mainstream outlets. The opinion on what is more important sensitivity/truth, feelings/facts, children/people �� you are partially right. The importance of each changes with every situation. There are times that your kids come before your spouse, when truth serves no purpose and when the safety factor outweighs the fun ��.this coming from a female perspective, of course. lol
DG May 31, 2009 3:23 AM
It��s not only b control that is polluting and feminizing the male species and it is not limited to just marine life. Very interesting if you take the time to do some research. The opinion on what is more important sensitivity/truth, feelings/facts, children/people �� you are partially right. The importance of each changes with every situation. There are times that your kids come before your spouse, when truth serves no purpose and when the safety factor outweighs the fun ��.this coming from a female perspective, of course. lol
Anon/Gina on May 31 @ 2:37 PM
Interesting….
Anyway, I also wanted to share that my daughter performed Little Red in a production called Into the Woods last night (a new ArtSmart program put out by the Board of Ed in conjunction with Theatre Ancaster) and did an amazing job! 🙂 🙂 🙂 And IF anyone is interested, I��ll put the link up on you tube once I get a copy of the dvd.
Nancy on May 31, 2009 2:45 PM
Yes it is interesting since it’s not my comments in general that are being moderated, but my comments to him only! What’s your take on that one???
Idk. I used the name “demigod” in my comment earlier ▲ and now again and it doesn’t await moderation. So, it COULD (and I’ll repeat…”could”) have something to do with either him or you, LOL. Heeheehee…that’s funny!
Whatever, it ruins the conversations and it’s pointless in my opinion. If someone is offended, let them contact tribute and they can remove the comment….or “ban” them temporarily. lol
Nancy on May 31, 2009 3:02 PM
It won’t take any comments that I direct at him, but will if his name is in my comment section.
People can get counelling, and then there is “rehab”. If someone has issues, they can be dealt with, but with this rehab, put them in jail, they become “model” citizens, and then they offend again, it doesn’t work. They are playing the system.
anon, id love to see 🙂 im glad she was amazing 🙂 i cant wait to see!
Carol on May 31, 2009 5:36 PM
I didn’t realize there was such a difference between the two. Other than detox, what is the difference between “rehab” and counselling; because serving time is definitely not rehab, it’s incarceration.
Carol on May 31, 2009 5:36 PM
Forget my last question, I’ve missed the answer in your post…..You don’t believe a jail sentence would be of any use to him, because he would come out the same and reoffend whereas counselling will do him some good??? Is that what you’re saying, that it’s not off with his head anymore and you’ve now taken the bleeding heart liberal stand?
Anon/Gina, I’m trying to put it out what the difference it, pretty hard to write it for you to understand. Anyway, I know what I mean, and that is all that is important to me. Counselling would not necessarily do good, but it could help. Unfortunately, I don’t think the prison system is a good deterrent for a lot of people. Just because they have a lot of opportunities in prison (at the taxpayers expense) they are not rehabilitated. Maybe a good chain gain might help rehabilitate them, just like the good ol’ days…hard time
Anyway, we’ll just disagree and leave it at that.
I agree with you Carol, jail just spoils them…they go in there and have someone else to cook and clean and do their laundry for them, cable tv, newspaper, 3 square meals a day plus snacks, canteen…don’t have to work, just sit around and make more criminal friends and pull dope out of their @$$es…while blaming women for why they are there and hooked on dope, LMAO. Counselling, rehab and programs like that only work if the person is willing to change and even then there’s no guarantee. We, as a society, don’t have time to put up with all this sh!t and wait for them to want to change so we need some harder punishments to basically “force” them to change because we won’t allow this behaviour. And that, Carol, is where you and I come in with our big swords to cut their hands off, hahaha!
you speak as one with “inside” experience…or one just yielding a big sword(mouth) talking tough…always the first ones to crumble…
tributegirl on May 31, 2009 10:59 AM
YOUR children are not more important than ME, “buddy”. ‘It takes a village..’ is just a saying. Get it?
Well, my ex was my, what you call “inside experience”, if you must know, sh!t disturber! As for anyone having a “big mouth” that would be you. As for “the first ones to crumble…”, you’re the one who claims to “work first hand with the police”…aka INFORMANT! Try giving your opinion on the topic, dumb@$$…or as moondog would say, “idjit”!! Hahahahaha.
1-800-WUF-WUFF
Click my name Jo.
Nancy on May 31, 2009 2:29 PM
Are you on crack??
No demigod….I’m just of the female gender, remember?
No you’re not..you’re a forked-tongue reptile.
But a “female” one…and that is your problem, right? LOL.
well, you are always there to remind me and everyone else on here where I work…you bring it up constantly…
you flatter me with the effect I have had on you…need I remind you again, I am not holding you in the same high esteem? probably not…
demigod on May 31, 2009 9:03 PM
Jeez, chill out, demigod. MY children ARE more important than you…in MY eyes. I realize they are not as important as you in YOUR eyes. I would think that goes without saying. I was just trying to have a little fun with what I thought was a blooper on your part when you said “children are more important than people”, but maybe it was my blooper, maybe you really think children are not people?
And it does take a village, but some people prefer to not be a part of the village people. 😉
Ahh yes, the “village”…the good ole days. People can’t even raise and keep an eye on their own kids nowadays, let alone be part of the “village” that watches over ALL kids in the neighbourhood. It’s just common sense that when you see ANYONE get hurt or in trouble, you help them…especially children and elderly people. Those who don’t are nothing but selfish!
I agree, Nancy, I believe in helping the most vulnerable in society when they need help, although I realize some people do not have that same belief. And you’re right, the “village” has changed, most people don’t even know their own next door neighbours anymore, but the “village” still has people like you and me, who believe in helping others, the “village” has teachers, etc, who in one way or another aid in raising children.
Carol, Nancy and tributegirl, I agree with allot of what you all are saying. Especially the part about tougher jail sentences and the “village” stuff. When I used to visit this site a while ago I usually thought demigod sounded pretty smart but now he sounds like every other crackpot extremist. Did some woman (maybe even wife) dump you Demigod? You are the bitterest guy Ive ever heard on the subject of marriage. Im only one unremarkable looking woman and I had three different boyfriends who proposed before we’d gone out for a month. Maybe I just knew a lot of guys who were desperate to get married or maybe THERES JUST AS MANY GUYS WHO WANT THE DREAM OF A HAPPY MARRIAGE INSTEAD OF SPENDING LONELY NIGHTS RAGING INTO THERE COMPUTERS!
Nancy, Tributegirl and Lily…you are all bang on. I’ve been asked to move in with previous boyfriends, after a very short period of time. One even said we should live together before we talk marriage, and I hadn’t even talked marriage…talk about men jumping the gun. I think they are needy, but also, men are capable of love and commitments, except for you Demigod. The village, yes, it used to be the Church for a lot of people and when a child was baptised, the congregation made a commitment to helping the parents in raising that child, being part of the community, but now we have people like Chris Brown, and his help raising my daughter, I dont’ need, because the only raise any woman would get from Chris would the result of a sh*t kicking unfortuantely. Tougher laws. Let’s be serious and show these people we WILL NOT tolerate anymore.
i had no idea what you guys meant about “the village” until you explained it carol. i think its because i lost interest in trying to read demigods long posts that seemed to be pretty irrational towards women. how can a man honestly believe that crap that demigod is spewing? love is its own commitment, marriage can not even be thought of UNTIL you are both sure youre in love. also, 9 times out of 10 its the MAN that proposes because he doesnt want to share the woman, he doesnt want her to have the option of looking at or thinking she wants a different man. i do agree with marriage, and i do plan to get married one day, but i do also think its kind of selfish on both parts. people get married out of love, but also out of possession. they want to be assured that the person they are with is stuck with them for the rest of their lives. too bad too many of these men feel the need to cheat, imagine how they would feel if the situation was reversed? back to the topic at hand, if anyone knows how to push peoples buttons, its me. does that give a man the right to beat me? i think not. if he does, does that make him a monster? does it make HIM responsible for HIS OWN ACTIONS? yes it does, and yes it does. if chris was really that angry, he should have told her to get out of his car and he should have drove away. OR he should have gotten out of the car and walked away. im beginning to wonder what type of a MAN demigod is if he agrees with abuse. does anyone else wonder if perhaps thats HIS reason for being soo bitter towards women? maybe he was in “love” with someone and abused her and she left him and instead of letting the blame fall solely on him, where it belongs, he thinks if he blames the victim, and every other woman victim on the planet for what happens to them that he will feel less bad about himself?
lily, I agree, demigod’s comments used to be (in my opinion) extremely intelligent and well thought out, and he never attacked nor defended anyone, he always stayed neutral, and honest and to the point, but I have noticed for the last month or two he seems to be very bitter, and I’m not sure why. I still enjoy reading his posts and having a good conversation with him, but “good conversation” is becoming increasingly difficult.
I used to think that demigod was bitter, but have since changed my mind. I think that a man’s love runs deeper for his partner than hers does for him. Men are for the most part, more sensitive and emotionally vulnerable than women are, they are taught from practically birth, to suppress and keep their emotions in check and keep their chin up; love for them is not fleeting and one love can crush them for life. Women on the other hand, are a lot more resilient and move on to the next one with a little support from their family and friends. I��m sure you have all heard��.if your spouse and child were drowning and only one could be saved��..men would save their wives, women their child. I do believe that demigod has issues, as we all do. There isn��t a person here that isn��t dragging some kind of baggage around. When the women on this site are all rah rah rahing for women and he throws in a little something from his perspective, everyone jumps on the sexist, something wrong with you bandwagon. I feel he adds some flavour to the conversations and his comments definitely compel us to respond.
mandee on June 1, 2009 8:02 PM
Wow mandee, that’s quite the speculating you have going there. Maybe she beat him and that��s why he �hates�� women so much.
Carol on June 1, 2009 7:52 PM
You giving demigod a religious lesson? Hahaha If you feel so strongly about abuse, why don��t you volunteer your time so you can actually make a difference in your community. Sitting around on a gossip website philosophizing laws and what you would do is pointless. I feel strongly about poverty and the forgotten seniors in my community, so I make it a point for us to get involved. Adapt the �we to me�� philosophy and you will see that one person can make all the difference.
You too Nancy, you could start by lobbying Jo right here! Hahaha
Nancy on June 1, 2009 6:40 PM
Ahh yes, the ‘village’..the good ole days. When women had no rights, and you could rape and smack’em around without a second thought.
Thanks for strengthening my arguments..it’s appreciated, but unnecessary.
lily on June 1, 2009 7:27 PM
Jump on that wagon newbie..
Is it really so ‘extreme’ to conclude marriage is flawed/fragile and has an undetermined lifespan? You know what the divorce rates are? People making promises they can’t keep..
The concept of marriage is deeply rooted in religion, culture, tradition..and it’s really nothing more than a piece of paper, a ring, and a ceremony (to gave added meaning).
Lily, your dates are not desperate to marry, just desperate.
Carol on June 1, 2009 7:52 PM
That’s quite the assumption. Another who presumes to know me.
tributegirl on June 1, 2009 9:05 PM
Do you,now? 🙂
mandee on June 1, 2009 8:02 PM
Talk about long posts..couldn’t even get thru half of it before tuning out.
Anon on June 1, 2009 10:26 PM
What issues?? 🙂
LOVED that drowning comparison. So true.
Did I leave out anyone? he he
Another thing Lily, I work nights, if you haven’t noticed!
Btw, I’m far from bitter! I’m single, dating, and loving it..
I figured you were a late worker – do you always work nights? I do a block of them every 10 weeks, sometimes sooner…I actually enjoy them and sometimes switch to them from days (my worst shift ha ha ) but wouldn’t want to do them full time…
p.s. broken down…
demigod 29 lines
anon…34 lines
mandee…30 lines
just an observation…mandee not quite as long winded as you think…ha ha
Jo-Anne on June 2, 2009 7:46 AM
haha Note to self….stop trying to write novels!
Demigod, when I said “the good ole days”…I didn’t mean 50 years ago….maybe that’s how long ago the good ole days of raping and beating women are for you but I was thinking more along the lines of, say….20 years ago. As for “strengthening” your arguments, hahahaha, from the looks of things here, I just have to sit back and watch you bury yourself. Think I should make popcorn and get my cozy slippers on?
my guess is that’s probably the norm for you anyhow, Nance…chowing popcorn, donning some type of clearance rack beer-store slippers and trying desperately to come up with something new here…d.g. lives in no fear at all of your “retalliation” bearing any remote resemblance to original wit…
get a job….a real one…
First of all, who was talking to you?
Secondly, I have a job thanks….and it involves more work than running red lights and lifting doughnuts, LMFAO.
Third, desperation is your trait…again LMFAO.
And lastly, who said anything about “d.g.” living in fear of my “retalliation”?
Oh, been in any good witness protection programs lately, informant?
demigod, yes I do. But Nancy isn’t strengthening your comments, your comment today at 4:23 am strengthened our “feminist society”.
demigod, i know my post was long but i had decided to be angry for a few minutes lol. you can usually tell when i AM angry because thats when MY “book” comes out 🙂
haha don’t believe a word of it, Nancy….not a word…it’s time you gave the system a break…
I really don’t give a sh!t what you believe! Hahahaha. I don’t have to answer to you or the “system” or anyone else.
Anon/Gina, If I didn’t have a family and have to work FULL TIME for a living and be involved in my daughters school along with other obligations, perhaps I would volunteer. I do believe that it is important. I have volunteered in the school system since she was in primary, and that is my main concern now for us. So don’t knock me on such foolishness.
Anon/Gina: Are you sure you’re not a man? LOL. I do agree with you that if a man is in a position to chose between his wife and his child, the majority would probably choose the wife and for women, the majority would most likely choose the child. That is really a no-brainer….that child grows in the woman’s body for 40 weeks and it is natural instinct for all mothers, even animals, to protect their young….doesn’t mean that women love men any less and it also doesn’t mean that men love their children any less. What it does mean however, is that in family court, when it is usually the mother getting more custody of the child…the court must be making the right decision.
so, do you hang around in family courtrooms around the globe, have access to volumes of court transcripts or just judge ALL cases by your own?
option three…
Carol on June 2, 2009 5:47 PM
Not knocking you at all, just making a comment about something that you obviously feel strongly about. I also did the school thing and focused on that solely when my kids were young. FYI..I work full-time, have a seasonal business (Sept �� May) and raised two kids alone, so I know how hectic life can be.
Nancy on June 2, 2009 5:57 PM
Not a man, that��s for sure! For the most part, women are more nurturing which is what kids thrive on. Men have just as valuable traits to offer their kids. Both balance each other out. While the courts may have (in the past) given custody to mothers, kids really loose in the end if they are not exposed to both parenting styles. As for the men not loving their children as much as the mother, look around. How many men do you know that have moved on with their lives after a divorce and the ties with the kids starts to deteriorate because he��s to busy �living��? He marries a woman that can’t stand his kids….I could go on but there is no point.
Jo-Anne on June 2, 2009 7:46 AM
Jo, yes I’ve been working nights for about 15 yrs. I’m in the printing industry. I love the hours..4pm-2am Mon.-Thurs. Have Fri/Sat/Sun off. I am very much a nightowl, I’m allergic to mornings 🙂 Also have a small side-business.
mandee on June 2, 2009 1:08 PM
lol that’s cute 🙂 I can sound ‘serious’ at times too..
Anon, I forgot to say..thanx for the earlier sentiments, and I’ll be sure to do a search on that ‘water’ study..sounds interesting.
ha ha allergic to the mornings, love it! I actually have a 4pm-2am afternoon shift as well…contrary to what many told me when I started – I love the shift work, would only consider days if right in my home town. (maybe)…
I did a side job for 17 years as well, but am in the process of packing it in…feels great…
demigod on June 3, 2009 3:16 AM
Hey, I have a little something going on the side as well…..can you share the details or would that be revealing too much? 🙂
i was wondering, what type of jobs do you guys think i could get training or schooling in that would be a permanent night shift job? i actually prefer the 10pm-6am shifts or 11pm-7am. im still trying to figure things out. its only been a few days. also, i havent called anyone else about a dental card yet because my mom says i should wait til i get unemployment.
Mandee, why wait? Then they may not give you a dental card once you have income, depending how much.
hi mandee,
I know I quite often see ads for grocery clerks night shift, also try maybe switchboard at hospitals, etc.,
I would think night shift is not the \"preferred\" shift for many people so hopefully you\’ll be successful. Good luck.
mandee, I hate night shifts, a lot of people do, so when someone like me sees someone like you coming along who prefers nights, we get very excited! Check out any place that is open 24/7, don’t forget any newspaper places, they need people nights. And Nancy is right, don’t wait, not only for the reason she stated, but also, if you wait they may think that it really isn’t all that necessary and you dont’ want to give them any reason to deny you.
Hmm, interesting. There is no captcha or anything! Just the submit button.
thanks guys. ive been applying everywhere, so has my friend that lost her job at my store. she says everywhere she goes says they arent hiring. also, my sister says the news said they think that by this time next year no one will be living in oshawa and everything will be closed. sure hope not !