“Booty call” text message sparked Rihanna assault

brown_rihanna.jpgDetails about the fight between Chris Brown and girlfriend Rihanna have surfaced. According to the police report obtained by TMZ, an argument began after Chris received a “booty call” text message from a woman about getting together. Rihanna told the police that during the argument, Brown started hitting her. She ordered him to drive her home and “faked a call” to someone, saying, “He’s dropping me off. Make sure the cops are there.” Brown grew enraged by the call and threatened to kill her. At that point, according to the report, Brown allegedly began attacking Rihanna with his fists. At some point, Rihanna took the keys out of the ignition and threw them outside and got out herself. Photos taken by police of Rihanna following the attack clearly show facial brusing, swollen eyes, a cut lip, bloody nose, and bite marks on her fingers and arm. Brown will almost certainly be charged with felony domestic battery charge. That, however, is a less serious offense than making criminal threats, so police are continuing their investigation in order to make the more serious charge stick.

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  1. yuck • February 13, 2009 @ 1:42 AM

    Lock him up.

  2. mandee • February 13, 2009 @ 2:50 AM

    SEE?!? turns out you and i were right nancy. this sicko deserves to be in jail for a very long time so that his inmates can show him how it feels.

  3. Khristopher • February 13, 2009 @ 3:19 AM

    Why in the world would he do such a thing? Clearly he was not thinking, and there is something wrong with him.
    I’m not a fan of her music, but that’s horrible that this has happened to her. I hope he gets treated and punished appropriately.

  4. demigod • February 13, 2009 @ 3:56 AM

    He starts hitting her, so instead of getting out of the car at that point, and calling a cab or friend, she ORDERS him to drive her home and fakes a call saying the cops will be there. lol
    This girl sure knows how to exacerbate the situation.

  5. Coop • February 13, 2009 @ 8:10 AM

    Your either a s**T disturber or an idiot,demigod it’s tough to tell but it’s scary that people who think like you are still out there.Give your head a shake.

  6. demigod • February 13, 2009 @ 9:00 AM

    Coop..you simple-minded dolt. I’ve already implied his guilt. Yes, he’s wrong for beating her, and has no excuse. Duh. All I’m saying is she could’ve handled it better, and diffused the situation (given the latest details of the assault)

  7. Kim • February 13, 2009 @ 9:44 AM

    Until you are in that situation yourself, you can’t know what’s going on in her mind and why she did what she did. It can be very scary and maybe she thought the idea of the cops being there would settle him down.

  8. Nancy • February 13, 2009 @ 9:52 AM

    She was probably in shock as he was beating her! You know, if he wants to fool around and cheat with other women (Leona Lewis or Keisha Chante or whoever the “booty call” was) maybe he should split up with his girlfriend first…INSTEAD OF BEATING HER WHEN SHE FINDS OUT! He’s such a coward and you know, it’s always easy for people who were not involved to say “Oh, she shouldn’t have done that, she should have done this” but, until you’re in that situation, you don’t know and of course she would tell him to take her home…pop stars don’t just jump out of cars and start walking in any old LA neighbourhood you know…??

  9. yoyo • February 13, 2009 @ 10:11 AM

    yo she needs to put him in jail all the way if she let this go or pass by people are going to look at him like what the f! so that way other women dont suffer from this..and trust me i am a man..do your thing rihanna make him pay and there you go next time go for a more dark skin guy!

  10. paul • February 13, 2009 @ 10:42 AM

    he’s an asshole shes a great girl, get away from him and never look back he’s not good enough for you.

  11. sab • February 13, 2009 @ 10:54 AM

    just because he received a text message about a booty call doesn’t mean he wanted to accept it or engage in it. Perhaps it was just a girl who didn’t know her limits. As for Brown, he needs to know his limits too. Hitting a woman is never right in my books. TMZ also is not really a reliable source either…Only tibits of information came to the surface. Something tells me there’s more to this story that we’ll never know.

  12. James • February 13, 2009 @ 10:56 AM

    I think Chris Brown and OJ Simpson will make a cute couple, err I mean great cellmates!

  13. Helen • February 13, 2009 @ 11:14 AM

    Give him the max they can for this assualt, he needs anger management and to go into re hab for this, and locked up for a while, learn no to hitting for the first response in an argument, learn how to talk instead of hitting.

  14. demigod • February 13, 2009 @ 11:21 AM

    Nancy, why can’t a pop star jump out of a car in any old LA neighbourhood? You think some stranger is going to come along and beat her too?

  15. dc • February 13, 2009 @ 11:40 AM

    U dont beat up on women or anyone… what a coward… I dont care who or what you are or what you do .. no exuses.. lock him up & throw away the key for a while& when mr brown gets out he should get some therapy… game over beater!!!

  16. sable • February 13, 2009 @ 12:22 PM

    no excuses….. even if she screamed at him,called names.it is NOOOOOOOOOOO excuse… put the selfimportant lout in jail and have him be OJ’s b***h …no wait ,he’s not white and blond.. he will have to be the wife of some normal guy…and see what a REAL “booty” call is

  17. Sangstas • February 13, 2009 @ 12:31 PM

    Well said sable. Don’t you learn in kindergarten to use words, not fists? I know there’s no excuse, but he must have been on something. No normal person would just start beating someone for a random argument…well some would, but when you know you are in the public eye, and you beat up RIHANNA? You know it won’t be a secret for long…I mean, if you beat up some random person, people would know. How can you expect no one to ask questions if it’s Rihanna’s face you decide to throw fists at? Crime of passion? Blaming it on his childhood? One of these things might come up, who knows. He’s an asshole is the bottom line.

  18. Daddy's Girl • February 13, 2009 @ 12:32 PM

    I hope he gets the kicking he deserves. What a loser.

  19. dora • February 13, 2009 @ 12:54 PM

    make him learn hte lesson.

  20. ann • February 13, 2009 @ 1:20 PM

    No one knows what really happened here. Maybe, just maybe this was a situation where the female was out of control and started hitting him first. I have brothers and I can tell you over the years I have seen females come and go in their lives that were vicious women.

    I think everyone should realize that he is innocent until proven guilty. So far there are just alleged reports she was beaten up, but there have been no accounts from his or her camp that this is true.

    The media needs to stop speculating and let him have his day in court. If the DA is asking for more evidence from the police that means this case is weak.

    As a woman from the Caribbean, I can tell you I have seen Caribbean women become violent quickly when their man is looked at by another woman. They can get crazy real quick. I am grateful my parents raised me to not be a clingy, controlling woman. If my man is speaking with another woman, I don’t get all bent out of shape. If you don’t trust your man you shouldn’t be with him.

  21. Lenny • February 13, 2009 @ 1:32 PM

    He should be locked up, but she’s an idiot for being with this loser to begin with.

  22. Anonymous • February 13, 2009 @ 1:43 PM

    Sangstas, you’re right. No normal person beats up on someone for a situation like that. But believe me, I have seen it first-hand (thankfully it wasn’t me). This whole situation angers me from both points. First off, where does he get off treating someone like that? But it’s also surfaced that she’s been seen on other occasions sporting bruises on her body. Why would she stay with someone like that and assume that things won’t get any worse than they already are? She didn’t deserve this (and beleve me, no one does) but she also continued to put herself in a dangerous situation. You have a duty to protect yourself (by avoiding people like him) and keep yourself safe. Once you ignore that, you are basically saying, “I can handle this. Don’t worry about me.” When he hit her the first time (a long time ago) she should have been outta’ there!! You don’t go back after that. Please, don’t think twice about leaving when you’re in an abusive relationship because it will never get better. (And that stands for men and women!).

  23. Anonymous • February 13, 2009 @ 1:50 PM

    Good point Ann. There are some girls that think it’s cute to be overly dramatic when something goes down. They start hitting and scratching and getting violent and then not expect the guy to see red. This is crap they watch on tv and don’t think about what happens next. Thankfully, in most situations, many guys were raised not to raise a hand to a woman, no matter what. But women behaving badly is also not acceptable. Fact is, we still don’t know if she (Rianna) did anything like that. She may have done nothing (supposedly, he’s hit her before). That being the case, it would take nothing to set him off. The whole situation is awful.

  24. Myself • February 13, 2009 @ 2:03 PM

    Well same thing happend to me, it will be a year on the 15th… and still nothing as happend. The court date is set for October 2009… and he even assulted the police officers that here there to arrest him. But since there are “celebrities” it will happend a lot sooner… sad to say but its true!

  25. sage • February 13, 2009 @ 2:09 PM

    Once a beater, always a beater. He should do time and be turned loose in population, let’s see how big a man he is then.

  26. destiny • February 13, 2009 @ 2:21 PM

    this obviously wasn’t the first time he did this to her or she ould have reacted differently LOCK HIM UP… I love Rhianna and she or no one should go through what she went through. I hope she is ok

  27. MOM • February 13, 2009 @ 2:38 PM

    I was in an abusive relationship around this age. I married him … then he became abusive. It starts out slow and escalates, all the time you are thinking it is YOU that is causing his abusive … something YOU are doing wrong. Rhianna needs to pay attention to the red flags and get out before she wastes too much time trying to reform him. You can love him and still have it be bad for you. You need to learn to love YOURSELF enough first to walk away. I did, after 10 years… wish I had done it way, way sooner. Another really important thing to notice that no one has mentioned … she had BITE marks on her hands … what was THAT all about? Takes a particular kind of viciousness, even if drunk or on drugs … to BITE someone! Good luck Rhianna, and get some anger management treatment Chris. — Mom

  28. Stylz • February 13, 2009 @ 2:51 PM

    its not his fault…Rhianna and Chris wanted to break up before but it was a gimmick wanted by Rhianna’s people to keep it going. Therefore they werent really dating…just pretending. So if you are pretending to date someone then who cares if the other has a booty call. Then being a “girl” had to make a stupid “fake call” to piss him off…that’d would piss anyone off….I dont think he should have hit her…and as a celebrity all he had to do is pay the price lol 50,000$. He won’t get LOCKED UP because celebrities got off easier when they did more. I think Rhianna hit him first and he self defended himself. What makes it different if he just attacked her to self defend himself….woman want to be an equal in this society…well listen then If you are a female and you hit a guy be aware that they may hit you back to self defend themselves. Dont think because you are a female that you can hit a guy and hope that he wont hit you back.

  29. hipster • February 13, 2009 @ 3:04 PM

    why would he do that??? Thats just plain wrong. He should definently go to jail!

  30. tributegirl • February 13, 2009 @ 3:20 PM

    Ok, maybe this is some of the regulation we should have been discussing before, when we were talking about smoking weed. Should someone who is high be allowed to use the net? Stylz comment makes me think NO!!!
    lol
    But seriously, no one knows if she hit him first, what if she didn’t Stylz? Is it still “not his fault”? Also, if she hit him, I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t have to “self-defend” himself in such a brutal way, in fact I don’t think he would have had to use much force to make her stop hitting him, but what did he do? He beat the h*ll out of her. I think he used a bit more force than was necessary, even IF she hit him first! HE walked away, he was obviously physically fine, SHE had to be taken to hospital with police escort, she was obviously physically NOT fine at all. Whether she started it or not, he waaaaay crossed the line, his loss of control is HIS fault.
    Also, as far as her making that fake phone call, I don’t blame her, in fact I thought it was very clever, she probably did it thinking he’d back off if he thought the police were going to be there. Obviously it backfired, but I would think that getting him to back off was her intention.

  31. Hailez • February 13, 2009 @ 4:03 PM

    what an assh*le, i hope he gets charged and i hope Rihanna makes a smooth recovery.

  32. roc • February 13, 2009 @ 4:10 PM

    We need to hear Chris Brown’s side of the story because theres somethin not right about her story

  33. Shoudn'ta • February 13, 2009 @ 4:14 PM

    “BUBBA my love, here I come”

  34. mireille • February 13, 2009 @ 4:56 PM

    this is unforgivable.. no matter what, a man should never hit a woman. I hope he gets some sort of punishment otherwise will send the wrong message.

  35. Anonymous • February 13, 2009 @ 5:06 PM

    I think it never should have happened but, we make mistakes. he should not ave run off and left her there unconcious.i admit I as a female woud be mad about a text from another feel but, I would have handled it different in some ways but, I am also older. these are two young people. i have a son who looks strikingly similar to chris brown and i have taught him to never raise a hand to a female. they could have worked out there differences differently.

    I am sure he realizes his mistake and she also. I hope she does not go back to him. he needs help and she needs to get her self esteem uplifted.
    for her to stay with a guy who allegedly touched her before tells us she has issues. she needs to pull herself up and look at what she wants in a man and how she will handle an issue like this if it arises again with another male.

    this is my advice from someone who dated a male who tried to put his hands on me. I walked away from the relationship before it escalated to something worse.

    I pray for both of them. They are still young and I am sure this situation was an eye opener for her and other young girls around the world. i am sure she did not want the world to know but, that’s what happens when you are in the spotlight., your live is under a magnifying glass.

    Hold your head up Rhianna there will be a man out there who will sweep you off of your feet and treat you how you want to be treated. Take this advice from a mother of three. If you were my sister i would tell you the same

  36. Vi • February 13, 2009 @ 5:18 PM

    Chris absolutley had no right to do what he had done and he should be punished for his offences. However. She seems like a smart girl and therefore should not have gotten in the car just to further heat the situation with threats. We have been hearing alot in regards to the short leash Rihanna has had this boy on for quite some time (she even ordered him around during this argument and he did as he was told). If you cage a person long enough eventually they will snap.

  37. Nancy • February 13, 2009 @ 5:51 PM

    Vi, she was already in the car before he started to hit her…they were driving down the street, heading back to their hotel. I hadn’t heard anything about her having him on a “short leash”…maybe she did, I don’t know but, if he didn’t like her or her ways why didn’t he just break up with her instead of beating her? You said that “she even ordered him around during this argument and he did as he was told”….I don’t believe that AT ALL!! If that were true, then why didn’t he stop hitting her? I’m sure she said “STOP!”. Why didn’t he take her home when she “ordered” him to? Now, demigod….the side streets of LA are not safe for ANYONE to be walking alone, let alone a pop star who cannot even go to the movies or shopping without getting swarmed! Keep in mind, it was 12:30 AM too. “If you cage a person long enough eventually they will snap”…..OMG! He wasn’t caged! She didn’t have him locked up, forced to stay there, he was there by choice…and he also made the choice to beat the sh!t out of her instead of taking her back to the hotel…doesn’t matter WHAT she said or did, if she provoked him, he still had no right and now he’ll pay for it.

    Anyways, yeah gman, ol’ granny is still here! You still drunk? 😉 Have a great Friday the 13th!!

  38. maral • February 13, 2009 @ 6:09 PM

    i dont think chris brown would have done this hes like the seetest guy. And him and rihanna are perfect together u da man chris! And rihanna Just live your life oh ay ay ay.

  39. Lady M • February 13, 2009 @ 6:29 PM

    You know what’s interesting about this whole thing, only her side of the story seems to be coming out. Now, I’m not saying that CB can justify in any way shape or form what he did but for all we know she could be one of those chicks who in not getting her way snapped and made it seem/appear like he was beating on her just to get back at him. My point is we don’t know either of them personally or what happened in detail, yet everyone is ready to jump on the Rihanna band wagon. CB could have been advised to turn himself in to make himself appear less guilty then he already looked. California law is twisted – everyone is guilty until proven innocent, prosecutors can file and re-file cases to their hearts whim. Until we know all, and I mean ALL the facts it’s best we look at this as a disapponting event and remain neutral.

  40. tributegirl • February 13, 2009 @ 6:37 PM

    I don’t think it’s that anyone is jumping on the bandwagon, I think it’s just that people are against violence, and the violence she suffered at his hands was quite extreme. Of course we haven’t heard his side, he’s probably been advised by his lawyers to keep his trap shut!
    And oh, it drives me crazy when people say “he made a mistake”. It wasn’t a mistake! It was a choice!

  41. L1feless • February 13, 2009 @ 7:48 PM

    Ann…well said. Nancy could take a few pointers from you. She has immediately sided with the gossip on both posts I have seen so far. To make my stance on abuse quite clear so I don’t end up with irrational rants in response to this – I THINK IT IS WRONG. That being said Stylz made an interesting point about being equal above which I believe was mis-interpreted by most.

    I have seen a girl kick the crap out of a dude for cheating on her. So if a guy is being violently beaten by a girl one would expect an equal reaction back regardless of the outcome. The reaction is in the moment. Almost like the rules of physics…For every action there is an equal opposite reaction.

    If he beat her just like it has been made out to sound…Lock the bastard up.

    If it has been twisted and bent all out of shape by the media then perhaps there will be some lessons learned by some in this forum.

    Either scenario….let’s lets the guy have his day in court.

  42. athena_sarah • February 13, 2009 @ 8:00 PM

    This guy isn’t a man, a mere animal!

    Hope Rihanna’s fans will take care of him in jail…As he did with this poor lady.

  43. Nancy • February 13, 2009 @ 8:29 PM

    Whatever L1feless! I have my own opinions and don’t take “pointers” from anyone! Ann seems to think that the DA’s case is weak because they asked the police to get them more evidence…nah, they have enough to put him away for now but, like the article above says, they want to charge him with the more serious crime. They are also ‘supposedly’ questioning Rihanna about her PAST injuries…such as her scratched cornea from a while back in which she had to wear an eye patch and about her bruised neck back in December…they want to prove that this is not his 1st time and surely won’t be his last. I, as well as the others who have come forward on here and admitted to being abused by former spouses, can tell you that by the severity of her injuries that is being reported, this is most likely not his first time abusing Rihanna. Ann seems to have labelled ALL Caribbean women as “violent” and “crazy”. So what? Doesn’t mean Rihanna is. I’ve seen some pretty “violent and crazy” native people, some pretty “violent and crazy” black people, some pretty “violent and crazy” white people…doesn’t mean they ALL are! Yes, if he was cheating on her she should have dumped him…and he shouldn’t have been cheating then. He should have broken up with her. The lady you speak of L1feless, who beat up the guy for cheating, shouldn’t have done that. It’s not right, male or female. But, if Rihanna has all the bruises, swollen eyes and bite marks that are being reported and Chris doesn’t have a scratch and left the scene instead of sticking around, kinda doesn’t resemble self defense. Now, you can “THINK IT IS WRONG” all you want…you’re entitled to your opinion and we are giving ours too, and if it comes out that he is a coward woman beater, perhaps you will learn a lesson too..that even if someone slaps or scratches you, yes you do have the right to slap them back or push them away but, you don’t have the right to beat the sh!t out of them!

  44. Nancy • February 13, 2009 @ 8:35 PM

    Oh, and if you check out the results in the poll question posted here on Tribute about Chris Brown’s possible punishment, you just might see that the majority agree with what I’ve said, L1feless.

  45. Anonymous • February 13, 2009 @ 9:06 PM

    It sickens me to know that he is being judge by many people. So I guess he is guilty then, withoutb a trial. There is no solid evidence against him. Plus did anyone stop to think that she started the fight and just got the worrse of it. The girl is not right and only some ppl see that but she needs help. He isn’t into you girl give up!!!!!!!!!!!

  46. demigod • February 13, 2009 @ 10:20 PM

    There was a point where he WAS driving her home..until she faked that call that pushed him over the edge.
    Nancy,I’m getting tired of having to counter your every argument. It’s exhausting keeping up with you. SHE CAN GET OUT OF A CAR ANYTIME/ANYWHERE!! Don’t be so square! Yea, stay in the Lambourghini, keep a low profile, safer too.

  47. demigod • February 13, 2009 @ 10:44 PM

    We know now she was beaten before..so much for her respect.
    I particularly liked Jay-Z speaking up saying she discovered Rihanna and watches out for her,stating ‘CB is a walking dead man’- (which can easily be grounds for charging him for uttering death threats)then flashes a ‘peace’ sign before walking out in his flashy empty suit. Hypocrite. This is none of his business.

  48. Anonymous • February 14, 2009 @ 12:35 AM

    It’s unfortunate that as he was growing up, Chris Brown witnessed his mother being battered by her lover. It’s even more unfortunate that he seems to believe…its ok. ITS NEVER OK.

  49. Nancy • February 14, 2009 @ 2:09 AM

    You are an ass, demigod…really, you are. Instead of whining about how “exhausting it is” to keep up with me and how you feel you have to TRY to counter my every argument, just give your opinion. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that a well known multi-millionaire doesn’t get out of a Lamborghini at 12:30 am on a side street in who knows what kind of neighbourhood in LA!

    Oh, and calling someone “a walking dead man” is not a death threat….in fact, we are ALL walking dead men/women! It’s like saying, “you’re going to die”…it’s true, we all are going to, it’s not a threat. This is EVERYONE’S business as far as I am concerned. Strength in #’s.

  50. demigod • February 14, 2009 @ 3:19 AM

    God you’re annoying. It must be exhausting being you -taking on the world. Is it any wonder why you’re constantly a target on here? Whether you’re right or wrong. You obviously love the sound of your voice.

  51. Jo-Anne. • February 14, 2009 @ 3:24 AM

    I am in total agreement with those stating that nothing, save self defence, justifies hitting, regardless of whether it’s a male or female resorting to hitting.

    Should these allegations prove true, Chris deserves to suffer the lawful consequences, however severe they may be, and that being said, I am not in favour of anyone taking it upon themselves to personally administer violent punishment upon him. I have to say, I do feel Jay-Z’s comment came across as a threat and I detest this tough thug talk, even though I understand his emotions at the time.

    It would appear from Rihanna’s remarks, this was an ongoing abusive relationship, I sympathize with her, but cannot understand why she attempted to further enrage an apparently very angry man by “faking” this call, particularly as she claimed to have “been there before” with him.

    Wouldn’t it have been a safer call for her to exit the vehicle in what’s described as one of the richest most affluent areas in all of U.S.A., Hancock Park, where this argument arose, reportedly, than to order this irate, outta control man to drive her anywhere?

    I am curious to see what the final reports will say, if all the reports are true I hope Rihanna exits this relationship and heals, and Brown receives not only just punishment but assistance to overcome his anger/violence issues.

  52. Jo-Anne. • February 14, 2009 @ 4:01 AM

    Let’s try this again, and apologies ifi t gets posted twice…

    I am in total agreement with those stating that nothing, save self defence, justifies hitting, regardless of whether its a male or female resorting to hitting.

    Should these allegations prove true, Chris deserves to suffer the lawful consequences, however severe they may be, and that being said, I am not in favour of anyone taking it upon themselves to personally administer violent punishment upon him. I have to say, I do feel Jay-Zs comment came across as a threat and I detest this tough thug talk, even though I understand his emotions at the time.

    It would appear from Rihannas remarks, this was an ongoing abusive relationship, I sympathize with her, but cannot understand why she attempted to further enrage an apparently very angry man by faking this call, particularly as she claimed to have been there before with him.

    Wouldnt it have been a safer call for her to exit the vehicle in whats described as one of the richest most affluent areas in all of U.S.A., Hancock Park, where this argument arose, reportedly, than to order this irate, outta control man to drive her anywhere?

    I am curious to see what the final reports will say, if all the reports are true I hope Rihanna exits this relationship and heals, and Brown receives not only just punishment but assistance to overcome his anger/violence issues.

  53. Tammi • February 14, 2009 @ 3:05 PM

    They have FREE counselling for this u know. FREE!!!

  54. Tammi • February 14, 2009 @ 3:08 PM

    No one should have the right to hit anyone….female or male. Unless force is the only way “out”.

  55. Joan • February 14, 2009 @ 3:08 PM

    No excuses for beating women ; the beige prince did wrong; you never know tho, Rihanna might want to still go back to him after all this,

    -women we can be very strange creatures…Rihanna didn’t deserve this at all, nobody does.

    I am sure his momma didn’t raise him up to beat and disrespect women to this extent. What a shame!

  56. George • February 14, 2009 @ 5:18 PM

    This sick piece of Sh– should be locked up in a mental institution for the criminally insane.
    It is clear he has mental health problems that make him extremely violent and abusive to the most vulnerable in society.
    He needs help and they should lock him up until he is fully rehabilitated.
    Plus people who commit domestic abuse should be prevented from procreating again. We have enough problems in our society and we can make the world a better place without having these turds spreading there seed and maki8ng it a worse place to live. Thank you.

  57. Nancy • February 14, 2009 @ 6:09 PM

    First of all demigod, who gives a sh!t what you think of me? Secondly, who gives a sh!t what anyone else thinks of me? How do you figure I’m “taking on the world”? Almost everyone who posted on this article has basically agreed with the opinions I’ve given. I think you are just jealous of me. Oh, and I’m not “constantly a target on here”, I’m just no push-over and don’t put up with others BS…like the BS you are trying to make!! Just comment on the topic…you know that you don’t always have to try to one-up me, right?

  58. Jo-Anne. • February 14, 2009 @ 6:32 PM

    I am in total agreement with those stating that nothing, save self defence, justifies hitting, regardless of whether its a male or female resorting to hitting.Should these allegations prove true, Chris deserves to suffer the lawful consequences, however severe they may be, and that being said, I am not in favour of anyone taking it upon themselves to personally administer violent punishment upon him. I have to say, I do feel Jay-Zs comment came across as a threat and I detest this tough thug talk, even though I understand his emotions at the time. It would appear from Rihannas remarks, this was an ongoing abusive relationship, I sympathize with her, but cannot understand why she attempted to further enrage an apparently very angry man by faking this call, particularly as she claimed to have been there before with him. Wouldnt it have been a safer call for her to exit the vehicle in whats described as one of the richest most affluent areas in all of U.S.A., Hancock Park, where this argument arose, reportedly, than to order this irate, outta control man to drive her anywhere? I am curious to see what the final reports will say, if all the reports are true I hope Rihanna exits this relationship and heals, and Brown receives not only just punishment but assistance to overcome his anger/violence issues.

  59. Anonymous • February 14, 2009 @ 6:33 PM

    Poor girl. That guy is one major moron to think his celeb lawyer did anything other than prove his guilt…

  60. Anonymous • February 14, 2009 @ 6:37 PM

    This guy’s fake…will never hit a woman line is a true reflection of his personality, and his music…cheap lies, by a loser…he can sing that on his way to jail, he deserves it for his actions.

  61. demigod • February 14, 2009 @ 7:04 PM

    Jealous of you? lol Someone thinks highly of themself. No, why break precedent- you get the last word.

  62. Nancy • February 14, 2009 @ 7:16 PM

    Oh, it has nothing to do with “getting the last word”, demigod. At 10:20 last night you commented that you are “exhausted keeping up” with me and that you’re “getting tired of having to counter” my every argument….so don’t then! No one is forcing you. You think Rihanna should have done things differently such as jumping out of the car in what could be a very bad area of LA…I don’t think she should have. Your opinion…my opinion. That’s fine..leave it at that!

  63. Chris • February 14, 2009 @ 7:57 PM

    When all of this was happening to Rihanna, where was her security/bodyguards. I know for sure if I was her security/bodyguard I would of stopped the situation before it happened.

  64. demigod • February 14, 2009 @ 8:41 PM

    Chris..Jay-Z can’t be around to protect her 24/7. Besides, Rihanna needs the privacy once in a while to spend some quality time with her special guy.

  65. demigod • February 14, 2009 @ 8:59 PM

    Nancy,I said she should have gotten out of the car, and gave my reasons..and you DIDN’T leave it at that!

  66. JoAnne • February 14, 2009 @ 9:06 PM

    Am in total agreement with those stating that nothing, save self defence, justifies hitting, regardless of whether its a male or female resorting to hitting.Should these allegations prove true, Chris deserves to suffer the lawful consequences, however severe they may be, and that being said, I am not in favour of anyone taking it upon themselves to personally administer violent punishment upon him. I have to say, I do feel Jay-Zs comment came across as a threat and I detest this tough thug talk, even though I understand his emotions at the time. It would appear from Rihannas remarks, this was an ongoing abusive relationship, I sympathize with her, but cannot understand why she attempted to further enrage an apparently very angry man by faking this call, particularly as she claimed to have been there before with him. Wouldnt it have been a safer call for her to exit the vehicle in whats described as one of the richest most affluent areas in all of U.S.A., Hancock Park, where this argument arose, reportedly, than to order this irate, outta control man to drive her anywhere? I am curious to see what the final reports will say, if all the reports are true I hope Rihanna exits this relationship and heals, and Brown receives not only just punishment but assistance to overcome his anger/violence issues.

  67. Minerva • February 15, 2009 @ 12:32 AM

    In THIS corner, we have……..Demigod!!! And, in THAT corner, we have Nancy!!! Now, both put on your Suma bum floss and at the sound of the bell, ….. come out with more of them thar fightin’ words and may the best one win. DING!!!!!

  68. demigod • February 15, 2009 @ 2:22 AM

    Minerva..you INSTIGATOR! lol But seriously, she’s already down for the count.

  69. Anonymous • February 15, 2009 @ 10:29 AM

    its funny because chris browm always sings love songs. i swear, all our artists these days are fakes

  70. tributegirl • February 15, 2009 @ 12:24 PM

    Wow, demigod, I’ve never known you to argue with anyone before, this is really weird.

  71. Nancy • February 15, 2009 @ 3:59 PM

    Hahahaha! You only WISH I was “down for the count”, demigod! It’s time to wake up now…
    And sure, yes you did give your opinion that she should have gotten out of the car and then I gave mine saying that I don’t think she should have….THEN…you called me “square” and said your little “exhausting blah blah blah” speech. Like I said, just give your opinion and I won’t have to tell you that you truly are an ass!! DING DING!

  72. demigod • February 15, 2009 @ 5:27 PM

    Nancy, if you haven’t noticed I don’t give speeches. By ‘ass’ you mean sarcastic,yes I can be that-but with a point to make.

  73. Nancy • February 15, 2009 @ 8:58 PM

    No, I don’t mean sarcastic….I just mean ‘ass’. And btw, I’m not square.

  74. Anonymous • February 15, 2009 @ 11:05 PM

    You can take the trash from the ghetto but you can’t take the ghetto from the trash.

  75. Anonymous • February 16, 2009 @ 3:29 AM

    he most like wont do any time just because he is famous like all other celebrity’s that break the law and get a slap on the wrist.It true and say, i do hope he get what he deserves. ti not right for any man to hit or women or a women to hit a man either way it wrong.I hope and pray that rihanna thinks hard about this

  76. Jo Jo the Idiot Circus Boy • February 16, 2009 @ 10:29 AM

    Nancy – stop being holier-than-thou. You insult other people for making assumptions for what was going on in that car, and then make them yourself. And yes, you are square…

  77. Nancy • February 16, 2009 @ 2:14 PM

    Haha! I didn’t “insult” anyone for making an assumption of what was going on in that car. And you have no f-ing clue who I am…so no, I’m not square…but, I’m sure your name describes you perfectly!! 😛

  78. Stylz • February 17, 2009 @ 2:26 PM

    Hey tributegirl!

    I don’t smoke weed…sorry…but that is my opinion.

    Also recently I heard that Rihanna said that he has done it before. So it is pretty much her fault for still being with him after the first time it happened. You can’t just blame one person and not the other.

    I don’t think him hitting her is right and I don’t promote violence in any way. But all these people are againt Chris Brown when this whole situation was played off differently, all of this could have been missed.

    Rihanna shouldn’t even be with someone who tries to hit her even once or threaten to hit her. She should have left him long time ago…but she didnt. I blame Rihanna from taking that shit from anyone and I blame Chris Brown for hitting her because no one should be doing that to anyone.

  79. tributegirl • February 17, 2009 @ 7:43 PM

    Hey Stylz! Not trying to fight with your or anything, but I do have a bit of a problem with a couple things you said. I’ll let you know here what they were, and you can counter them. All I ask is that we both keep it clean and mature, and in saying that, I apologize for the weed comment, I was just in a bit of a funny mood.
    First 2 comments were from your first post:

    “its not his fault”, that automatically puts the blame on the victim.

    “I think Rhianna hit him first and he self defended himself.”, even if she did, what he did goes way beyond self-defense, he beat the h*ll out of her.

    Next one is from your comment above:
    “So it is pretty much her fault for still being with him after the first time it happened.” Ok, I can understand where you are coming from with this one, but usually after the first (and second, and third, etc) time that it happened, the abuser apologizes profusely and promises that it will never happen again, and seems totally sincere, and the victim, thinking that they are totally in love with this person, believes them. Then the brainwashing really starts, before long the victim believes it is their own fault and that they deserve being beat.

  80. mandee • February 18, 2009 @ 2:56 PM

    tributegirl, men will NEVER understand or see it from a womans point of view. they feel the need to always protect other men, no matter how stupid or bad or wrong the situation is. unless they have been in a similar situation *which im really thinking women that DO abuse their husbands/boyfriends, dont do it the exact same way that the men do* they will never fully understand or listen to the truth or how it really happens. from a mans point of view, you should be strong enough to never believe your abuser, you should be strong enough to not think you need, love, or want him. instead of feeling sympathetic towards these women, then men always have some crazy need to prove (or at least accuse) women of getting everything they deserve. i dont understand it, and i think its sick. notice how in all of these posts the ONLY people EVER to say that she deserved it or there had to be more to the story than just HER side were the men??? i find it chilling that you would even know so much about abuse, im sorry about whatever (if anything) has happened to you.

  81. tributegirl • February 18, 2009 @ 5:09 PM

    Wow, mandee, you got it right on the mark. You are right, I read once that rape affects men and women differently, men feel that it is something that happened, get over it, women it often affects for the rest of their lives. So abuse, I would expect, would be kind of the same, affects the genders totally differently, and the genders would see it totally differently.
    With me, don’t worry, my husband tried years ago to hit me, but I’m one that even though I was extremely shy, I would always hit back, he didn’t like that, so it didn’t take long for him to stop that. But his mental abuse was pretty bad, I finally figured it out and decided to not take any more BS from him. We were still together, but he was quite confused as to why I wouldn’t take it from him, and wouldn’t let him belittle the kids. It all blew up one day when he decided to hit one of the kids, I totally exploded. We are separated, and he has gone for a LOT of therapy, and is doing a lot better. We have actually become really good friends, and his relationship with the kids (the only way I let him near them is if he continues with the therapy and works hard at it) is better than ever.
    But my little sister was in a physically/mentally abusive relationship, she’s out of that one, but now is in an emotionally abusive situation. I think it will soon come to an end and right now she is quite a mess, so our family is working hard to help her through it. Also where I work, I often see women coming in who have been physically abused, or who are in such an emotional state because of their partner that they need immediate help. So I have been exposed to a lot of this stuff.

  82. mandee • February 18, 2009 @ 6:11 PM

    good, im glad you stood your ground. the guy i was with was mainly emotionally/verbally abusive, it started getting worse tho, he did little things to leave bruises on me, and the emotional and verbal abuse got worse (but i never in my life didnt fight back) everytime he said something rude or ignorant to me, i said something just as rude and cruel to him. im sorry that he hit your kids, and thats where i would draw the line as well. (i dont have any kids yet, but when i do, god save the man that hurts them). i dont understand the women that stay when it affects (or is it effects?) the children. im sorry to hear about your sister, i do know how hard it is to walk away, when i was with my psycho i was with him for 7 months, and i think the reason i stayed soo long was because first of all i had lost my job, had no money, no friends and felt like i was drowning, so i hooked up with him and i just figured it made sense that he treated me that way. my whole life at the time was falling apart, so i figured i deserved what i got and thats WHY i stayed. the day i finally made him leave and never spoke to him again was the day he grabbed my wooden picture frame/album (its pretty thick bc its both) and was holding it up shaking he was so mad and said he was gonna smash it in my face…i found courage in me i never knew i had and i flipped right out and told him if he hits me hed better hope im not getting up or thatd be the end of it for him…well, luckily my parents were home so he didnt go any further, he dropped it on the floor and stormed out…last time i ever heard from him. your sister will come around, hopefully before he starts slowly getting physical with her the way my ex did with me. its really hard to hide bruises that are around your neck…

  83. tributegirl • February 18, 2009 @ 6:35 PM

    I don’t think she’d ever let anyone hurt her physically again, but emotionally is different, isn’t it. He only hit one of my children one time, I was going to press charges but he went right in for some serious therapy, and is really working hard at it. Things will never be the same, we won’t get back together (no matter how much he hopes), but as long as he can be a decent person and treat me & the kids right, he is welcome in our lives. And thankfully it wasn’t a hard hit, and my son screamed at him & told him off, I think that shocked him. My kids don’t take sh*t either.

  84. mandee • February 18, 2009 @ 7:12 PM

    thats a great way to raise them. im glad they have (and had at the time) such a great role model. no child should ever have to witness that kind of crap. and im really happy to hear he is getting help and trying to become a better person. everyone makes mistakes, but when they make them AGAIN and AGAIN is when it becomes a huge problem. at least he sees he was wrong and is trying to change. its a very hard thing for most people to do.

  85. tributegirl • February 18, 2009 @ 10:07 PM

    Yeah, it has been a hard road for all of us, but he has really been doing well, and as long as he keeps that up, I’ll do what I can to help him. I do want him to be happy, and therapy is making him truly happy with himself for the first time in his life, but my kids do come first. The kids know that, and I think they’ve learned a lot through this.

  86. Jo-Anne. • February 19, 2009 @ 8:35 AM

    “You are right, I read once that rape affects men and women differently, men feel that it is something that happened, get over it, women it often affects for the rest of their lives.”

    How very WRONG of you to put out such a blatant offensive statement such as this…the least you can do is back it up, where did you read it, give details.

    I am sorry to hear of any woman, man, or child that suffers abuse of any kind, but this kind of statement which you and a few others on here seem to continuously resort to, blaming and bashing the entire male race for your unfortunate personal situations is just wrong, very wrong.

    I myself have much firsthand knowledge of abuse as well and yet I strongly feel there are many good men in this world and in the name of my father, brother, husband, sons, friends, etc. take great offence at such a “condemn all men” remark.

    Extremely offensive and insensitive. And just plain wrong…

  87. Nancy • February 19, 2009 @ 10:28 AM

    So, when you say “you and a few others on here seem to continually resort to, blaming and bashing the entire male race for your unfortunate personal situations is just wrong, very wrong”…you had better not mean me because I haven’t bashed “the entire male race”! Don’t forget, there are males in my family too…you’re not the only one who has a father, brother, son. And yes, there are plenty of good ‘people’ out there, men included…what’s your point? You better not start your BS again Jo! Oh, and before you say you never mentioned my name, maybe you should “back up” your claim that Tributegirl and a ‘few others’ on here seem to continuously resort to, blaming and bashing the entire male race for their unfortunate personal situations with names and proof. So what, so Tributegirl didn’t write “SOME men” in her comment…but she also NEVER wrote “ALL men” or “the entire male race”, now did she?

  88. tributegirl • February 19, 2009 @ 11:25 AM

    Ahh, stuff it, Jo-Anne, you know exactly what I meant, and if you don’t, then you aren’t very smart, are you! I read that a very long time ago, I can’t tell you where, because I’ve read a lot of things since then and don’t remember exactly where, and I was NOT lumping the entire male population in there, that’s pretty obvious from my comment. You are just trying to stir up some more sh*t, God only knows why, you must have one miserable life because you keep trying to drag everyone down to your level. Well it won’t work on me, lady, because from all the comments from you over the past year or so, as far as I am concerned, you are lower than scum, and I won’t be dragged down there with you.

  89. mandee • February 19, 2009 @ 2:40 PM

    in my post, i was referring to MOST men. because seriously, when you have men on here defending someone who beat up a woman, shouldnt that give you reason enough to lose faith in them? i have been through more than my fair share of crap in my life, and even though im sure at some point ive said that i wasnt referring to all men, and a few of my statements here made it seem as though i was, i do have some faith in some men. but i am the type of person NOW that you have to EARN my trust and respect, i will not look at you any differently than any of the other psychos ive dated until you give me a reason to. until you PROVE to me that you arent the same as everyone else ive met, or thats hurt me. sometimes you just go through so much that you build up massive walls, and its very very hard to break them down yourself, or change your views or opinions on the human race. im not saying i only lost faith in men, im saying ive lost faith in the entire human race. i dont trust women anymore than i trust men. so to the 2 of you that managed to actually get through on here to me, and actually made me respect and come to like you, good job, and thank you 🙂

  90. tributegirl • February 19, 2009 @ 3:32 PM

    Well, “anyone with half a brain” would clue in that I didn’t mean all men, but obviously some people who post on here are functioning on less than half.
    Well, mandee, it’s not hard to like you, you’re a real sweetheart, and you’re very open and honest, and you don’t take crap. And you don’t give crap unless someone’s been giving it to you first. I like that.

  91. mandee • February 19, 2009 @ 3:38 PM

    awww : ) thanks thats probably one of the nicest things anyones ever said to me, which is kinda sad lol. well, i gotta go to work now 3-11 so have a great day everyone

  92. tributegirl • February 19, 2009 @ 3:44 PM

    Have a great shift at work, and be careful on the roads, apparently a lot of the country is getting hit with a storm.

  93. Jo-Anne. • February 19, 2009 @ 4:06 PM

    I appreciate what you are trying to say, Mandee, though I am even in disagreement with the term “MOST” men myself, lumping the handful of bad seeds one person comes across in their lives as “most” – it is a term that implies too large a proportion of the male race. Again, your opinion, understood and I also appreciate your careful wording being respectful of others and I think that’s really good to read.

    For the record, I am sorry to hear of the problems you’ve gone through, I am not immune to a fair share of “crap” in my own life, as I am sure many others posting on here have as well, not everyone wants to share their experiences, but it doesn’t mean A) they are unaware or B)it hasn’t happened to them as well…

    I’ve experienced it, I also see it every week in my work and I choose to recognize there is good out there for us all, I don’t dwell in the harder moments that have passed and prefer to offer hope to those who can’t see beyond their grief, bitterness or hardened shell. Don’t give up.

  94. Nancy • February 19, 2009 @ 4:11 PM

    Yes, I’m buried in snow! LOL. Thanks mandee. We who have been there understand the trust issues. I’ve also heard you speak very highly of you parents…including your dad. ‘Someone’ is just trying to cause you know what again.

  95. tributegirl • February 19, 2009 @ 4:39 PM

    Exactly, and no one even said “most” men, it was just a general comment blown out of proportion, for the simple fact that it was a comment from me.

  96. Nancy • February 19, 2009 @ 10:14 PM

    Ooops…I forgot an ‘r’ on “youR”….good thing I caught that before the coppers came for me! LOL.

  97. mandee • February 19, 2009 @ 11:29 PM

    thanks to all 3 of you. 😀 and yes, my parents are almost as good as parents come, ive never had any real problems with them. and jo, ive come to terms with all the bad in my past, im even over most of it, but stories like this, and every now and then a few days here and there, i really am not over it. which is why i sometimes post things that are generalized to mean ALL men lol. im glad that everything has seemed to calm down between the 4 of us, i do believe we can all disagree without being completely rude and ignorant to eachother lol but sometimes, its more fun that way 😛

  98. mandee • February 19, 2009 @ 11:42 PM

    oh and thanks so much tributegirl, but no not too much snow here, just a bit on the roads, not really enough to make it too slippery !! 😀

  99. Jo-Anne. • February 19, 2009 @ 11:45 PM

    I am not surprised to hear you are not “all over it” – sometimes this never happens, important thing is you are moving on and like you said coming to terms, that is all good steps and hopeful for your future.

    sorry, mandee, I find you have a very good side to you, but I cannot for the life of me see that in the other two…they never know when to quit and even seeing how offensive they are to many other people on here over the past weeks, only reinforces my original opinion on them, they are not my kind of people, but you go ahead.

    having hardship in life does not make anyone a good person, we all experience hardship, some greater than others, so detailing their issues on here doesn’t sway my opinion of their character. I am sorry to hear anyone go through problems, but it doesn’t justify insulting people and spewing derrogatory remarks because they don’t share the same opinion as you.

    anyhow, I do enjoy many people’s remarks on here, sometimes the sarcastic ones are funny, but the name calling and offensiveness I find is too immature to take those people seriously.

    that’s it for now…

  100. Kaiya • February 19, 2009 @ 11:49 PM

    Nancy, you made a typo? Oh no, thank god My own opinion wasn’t here, he/she would’ve keeled over in disgust and threatened to leave all over again! ;P

  101. Jo-Anne. • February 20, 2009 @ 12:09 AM

    well, like I said earlier, Kaiya, pat yourselves on the back, you’ve succeeded to bully yet another on here…wow maybe now is the time to point out Nancy’s correcting other’s typos on an earlier post? Heaven forbid….My own opinion dare not correct a typo but full steam ahead for her…

    Play…but at the very least can you play fair?

  102. Kaiya • February 20, 2009 @ 12:15 AM

    When have I ever not played fair? I’m glad a bully is gone, that’s not being fair? You’re blinded by hatred for Nancy, do you even realize that? So you want to fight for the bully, because he was on the same side as you (against Nancy). I understand that. But he was nasty to everyone, not just Nancy and I’m still glad he’s gone. At least, I hope he’s gone. I’m also glad that instigator Gina/Ricky/stan is gone.

  103. mandee • February 20, 2009 @ 12:52 AM

    i sure didnt read the entire other posts on chris brown or i wouldnt have said i was glad the 4 of us were getting along at least a little better lol. sorry for that guys. i wish you could all work it out, i think we would have a lot more fun if we could find ways to disagree with more insight and less insults. although, that doesnt mean i dont like any of you 😛

  104. tributegirl • February 20, 2009 @ 5:39 AM

    haha, I was wondering about that, mandee! No prob! But it will never be worked out, as you can see on this article, her friend is gone now, so she’s trying to sweet talk you. I just LOVE her comment: “sorry, mandee, I find you have a very good side to you, but I cannot for the life of me see that in the other twothey never know when to quit and even seeing how offensive they are to many other people on here” Hmmmmm, what was it I said about her and her kids? Oh yes, I congratulated her on doing such a great job raising her kids after she talked about their successes, and I said she was very articulate, and I was totally sincere. Her response? MMmmm let me thing…oh right, there was none. She’s not interested in working anything out, obviously. An instigator through and through.

  105. mandee • February 20, 2009 @ 2:25 PM

    as much as i like you, woman 😛 maybe the reason she is sweet talking me is because im not picking on her anymore lol. like i said, as long as she isnt picking on me, i have no reason to fight with her. so, hows your day going soo far? i have to work later, and gotta go in a half hour to pick up my brother (i am the taxi around here since my parents bought me a 2002 buick rendezvous)makes me crazy lol. gonna have a shower ttyl.

  106. tributegirl • February 20, 2009 @ 7:09 PM

    haha, could be, mandee! If so, lucky you, I’ve totally ignored her and yet she still gets her little digs in, I ignore her more and she can’t seem to contain herself, totally goes after me. Anyway, if she’s off your back, that’s good.
    Yeah, actually I had a really good day, it wasn’t too insanely busy at work, which is always a bonus, took the kids to guitar practice, had supper, did some shopping with my daugher, one of the kids is at hockey right now, and I’m relaxing for a little bit in front of the computer. Going to make a pizza soon and play some games, it’s Friday night family fun night! Love it!

  107. tributegirl • February 20, 2009 @ 7:10 PM

    btw, rendezvous is a nice truck!

  108. Nancy • February 20, 2009 @ 8:16 PM

    Thanks Kaiya, it is nice to know that some people see it the way it is. As for Jo-Anne, she knows full well that she and a couple others on here sit and complain CONSTANTLY about the spelling errors…I’ve been the one who points out to them that they make spelling errors too…so do I, and that those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. I’ve pointed out that Jo-Anne for instance, should put her rocks down because she does not start her sentences with a capital…and she said before that she has a degree in journalism…she should be a little more professional if that is true, wouldn’t you say? Especially since she nails others for it! I normally don’t say anything about someone’s spelling unless it is really hard to read because of ALOT of errors, and she knows it…she just needs something to b!tch about, she’s totally jealous of me. In these past couple weeks, I’ve been quite nice to her, even apologizing for blaming her for Gina’s doing but, she still has not apologized for lying about me and I would never hold my breath for that. Yes, I called her a name…because I’ve had quite enough of her instigating BS. I also called demigod an “ass”…in response to demigod calling me “square”. Jo-Anne is obviously grasping at straws…again.

  109. Jo-Anne. • February 20, 2009 @ 11:31 PM

    You’ve “totally ignored me”??????????????
    wow….
    where??

    you’ve referred to me in almost every single of your posts, tributegirl….a practice I am absolutely sure will continue forever and ever….and ever

    man oh man, how can you be so blatantly untruthful, it’s all here?

    It’s so abundantly clear you wait for my posts to pounce, so again, as I’ve said before pounce away. It seems to be all you’ve got for entertainment….

  110. mandee • February 21, 2009 @ 12:19 AM

    wow, sure sounds like fun tribute girl!!!! too bad i didnt live closer…lol… and youre right, i LOVE the rendezvous, the BEST part about it is, im the one that picked it out. ive never had a vehicle until now that **I** found and picked out for myself. (my parents have bought me so far a pontiac safari station wagon(first car i had), a ford escort wagon(2nd car), a 2 door grandam se(3rd car they got off my brother), and i hated EVERY ONE OF THEM!!! the only thing i LOVED about the station wagon was the amount of people i could bring with me. but let me tell you, i HATE cars…i am completely in love with my truck. so, im just wondering…who do we think is going to be the one (out of the 3 of you) to finally just stop fighting? lol….not that its any of my business…but arent any of you getting tired of ALWAYS fighting and always feeling like you need to defend yourselves? its just as fun and easy to have a debate without a fight

  111. tributegirl • February 21, 2009 @ 7:09 AM

    I couldn’t agree more, mandee, but as you know, Nancy and I had stopped many times, but if she slings it, we sling it back.
    Anyway, I love trucks too, but have an Outback wagon and a Civic. Love the Outback actually, the Civic is a good car, but kind of small. Ah well, they both work great, get us where we need to go safely, that’s what’s really important.
    It was fun! Yeah, if you were here, you could have competed with us! We played Nintendo Wii, it’s one of the few games where I stand a chance against my kids! It was hilarious, we were laughing all evening!

  112. Nancy • February 21, 2009 @ 1:57 PM

    Mandee, I am sick of fighting with Jo-Anne yes, but when I make a comment and she insults me or totally trashes what I’ve said in my comment, she is damn well going to hear about it! I’ve said it before and I will say it again, I don’t kiss anyones @$$…never have, never will. I also don’t put up with BS so when someone starts it with me they will definately hear about it. Like Tributegirl said, we hadn’t said a word (aka IGNORED) to Jo-Anne since I apologized to her (you saw that) until she came and started again over the damn poll thing on the side from Tribute about Chris Brown’s punishment. But now of course, he finger is yet again pointing our way.

  113. Nancy • February 21, 2009 @ 1:59 PM

    Mandee, I am sick of fighting with Jo-Anne yes, but when I make a comment and she insults me or totally trashes what I’ve said in my comment, she is damn well going to hear about it! I’ve said it before and I will say it again, I don’t kiss anyones @$$…never have, never will. I also don’t put up with BS so when someone starts it with me they will definately hear about it. Like Tributegirl said, we hadn’t said a word (aka IGNORED) to Jo-Anne since I apologized to her (you saw that) until she came and started again over the damn poll thing on the side from Tribute about Chris Brown’s punishment. But now of course, her finger is yet again pointing our way. I also wanted to say to you mandee, congrats on your new suv! I own a Buick and they are very nice vehicles.

  114. Nancy • February 21, 2009 @ 2:01 PM

    Hahaha! I hit submit comment twice.

  115. mandee • February 21, 2009 @ 3:07 PM

    thanks 🙂 and yeah youre both right, sorry about that. and what games did you guys play with the wii tg? my niece (shes 12 and autistic) has a wii, her FAVE game EVER is american idol encore. because she gets to sing lol. ive played that game with her wayyyyy too many times!!! i bought her the order up game too, i love it lol. cooking games all the way!! once i get another job (after the recession or whenever anyone is HIRING lol…) i plan to buy her hells kitchen and cooking mama. but they are both like 50$ right now and no way can i afford that!!!! do you play any other nintendo? i really like the regular nintendo, and super nintendo. i cant really play the other ones (like xbox) because i get wayyy too motion sick. (for some reason, wii doesnt do that to me). and i see where you are both coming from, id be the same way if someone was constantly picking on me (and i was, you all saw that…) have a great day all 🙂

  116. tributegirl • February 21, 2009 @ 10:05 PM

    When I play wii with them, we either play the wii sports that came with the system (by the way, I won the system! I bought a $5 ticket to support a local minor hockey team and was surprised to win!), or wii play, which has some very quick games, they are a little silly, but really fun, you end up laughing like crazy! Also wii game party we play some, but it’s not as good. We have Super Mario Brothers Smashbrawl, but I dont like it at all, my boys do, and one other, I forget what it’s called, it’s another I dont care for. My son will be getting a pokemon game for it for his b’day next month, I forget what it’s called. We also have PS2, I don’t use it often, but sometimes we will put in pacman (so fun!) and guitar hero’s. We have gameboy advance and Nintendo DS Lite, but I don’t use those, the small screens give me a migrane. I’ve never used xbox, but if it makes you motionsick, it probably would me too, I get motionsick quite easily! 🙁
    My friends have an autistic son, he’s 17, but it’s more like he’s 5, he is such a sweetheart, everybody just loves him. It’s a difficult thing for parents to face especially when the diagnosis is first made, quite a shocker, but you soon learn that these kids really are special, they just seem to have an extra dose of love in them or something. Your niece is very lucky to have you.

  117. mandee • February 22, 2009 @ 3:00 AM

    thanks so much. shes been wayyy into the computer lately, its a fight to get her off. i used to have a white nintendo ds lite, my ex got it for me (a good ex), but when he cheated on me and we broke up, he said some pretty rude things to me, so i sold it lol. ive played wii sports, we dont have the other ones, my sister got her a whole bunch of games for christmas. and holy wow thats great that you won it !!!!! i cant afford one lol, so i just share my nieces. shes never really been *lovey* when she was little she was always terribly bad and mean *would hit us, try to pull out her eye lashes, bite her lip til it was gushing blood, etc* but she hasnt done any bad things lately that im aware of. i bought her a bike last year, she rode it once (she was into bikes when i got it for her, hers had a busted tire from one of our bike trips) and like a day after she rode it, she got hooked on the computer, now i cant get her outside if my life depends on it. (we all live together, triplex, so my sister her kid and hubby top floor, me and my parents middle, my bro and his gf basement). and yes, about autistic kids, they are mentally younger than they are physically. her school GIVES her the answer sheets, they refuse to try to teach her because its so hard, and it p*isses me RIGHT off. but we have called the school board over this kid so many times (the teachers use to pick on her so much shed cry and scream and beg us not to send her to school, when my sister finally got her on the bus, shed be crying too) and the school board said if we call anymore, they are kicking her out of school. so we dont know what to do anymore.

  118. Nancy • February 22, 2009 @ 2:48 PM

    I’d be knocking on my member of parliament’s door about that one, mandee. Must be nice to win a Wii, Tributegirl! My kids have PS2 and have sooo many games for it that I don’t want to buy another system and start all over, the PS2 would never get used again. I guess I could sell it with all the games or give it to a child at the local crisis centre. I also have Super Nintendo with games in storage. The kids have GameBoy Colours and a GameBoy advance each with tons of games…which they never use anymore, isn’t that the way? I bought my son one of those big Robo-Raptors for xmas 2007, cost me $100 and he only used it twice, LOL. Ah well, they’re only kids once right?

  119. tributegirl • February 22, 2009 @ 7:29 PM

    Yeah, I’ll tell ya, I was so excited, so I was saving it for a family gift for Christmas, (this was almost a year ago), but my oldest son announced one day that he almost had enough money to buy himself a wii! So I brought it out, they all freaked, and he spent his money on an electric guitar instead!
    And that’s funny, my youngest son got RoboRaptor for Christmas 2007 as well! It was on an awesome sale, I forget what I paid for it, every once in a while he will use it a lot, then forget about it for awhile. Our dog is terrified of it!
    Mandee, does your niece have a short or long attention span? Because the Wii Play has a few very quick games, they only last a couple minutes each, and I don’t know what her mental age is, but a child of about 6 or 7 would be able to play it, although it is fun for all ages. I got it for $10 second hand, been well worth it.
    And I agree totally with Nancy, I’d be contacting the school board again, and if they dared kick her out, I’d be going right in to (not just calling!) my MP’s office (member of Parliament), AND my MLA’s office (member of Legislative Assembly), and telling them what’s going on. Also, if she’s reacting that way, that’s really not a good sign. Would it be possible to switch her to another school? Find out what the school does with children like your niece, see if it might be a good fit for her? Another good move is after contacting the school board and they’ve either kicked her out, or threatened to, writing a letter to the editor of your newspaper often gets fast results. Once they realize that you are taking it public, they start taking you more seriously.

  120. mandee • February 23, 2009 @ 3:01 AM

    i totally see what youre saying about the kids only using things once lmao. my niece is the same way and it makes me nuts!! and hmm, i never thought of that (parliament, or MLA) before. i dont know much about any of this stuff, neither does my sister, shes paranoid schizophrenic so shes just shutting up about it all. but i completely said the SAME thing about the newspaper !!!! im not too sure what age misty is at mentally, but she CAN have a long attention span IF SHE IS INTERESTED in what shes doing. (for instance, like i said, she WILL not get off the computer, but she wont sit down and watch tv). we have also called many schools and so far only found like 2 that were fully equip to deal with an autistic child BUT…one is *out of our area* so they refuse to take her (theyd of course have to send a bus then right?) and the other already has the amount of autistic children it is equip for. i told my sister what you said about the MLA and parliament, and she said they wont do anything. im not sure who all she has tried to contact before, but it got so bad the one year, we were going to home school her. the school board said they are allowed to refuse us that right, and also said if we DID home school her and she couldnt pass the tests THEY gave her to be sure we WERE teaching her, then they would have to get childrens aid involved. i dont even know what a roboraptor is lol. i have no idea how to shop for boys, im so glad all my family had girls when they had kids. lol.

  121. Nancy • February 23, 2009 @ 9:24 AM

    The school board isn’t making any sense then if your niece would have to pass the tests that they give her to be sure your family IS teaching her through home-schooling, meanwhile, they give her the answer sheets so that they don’t have to teach her. I’m glad she has found an interest in the computer though…probably her best learning tool, now if only most households had a computer 20 years ago. I just bought my son ‘Iron Man’ bedding…totally loves it of course, loves the movie he received for Christmas too. Now he wants the new Transformers movie for his b.day….looks like an awesome movie…hopefully that beater Terrence Howard isn’t in it this time, LOL. Not that he’s a “bad” actor, I just had no idea until Tribute published it that he was a beater. Roboraptor is a big remote control dinosaur, LOL.

  122. mandee • February 23, 2009 @ 3:18 PM

    ohhh, thanks. i watched transformers like last week, i didnt even realize terrence was in it!! and im glad he likes the sheets, i think im going to get misty some books for easter. im not sure what all to get her because shes so absorbed in the computer, but she was begging for us to get her twilight books, so i got her the first one, and she didnt read any of it yet lol. i also got her a thick hannah montana book *she used to be over the top obsessed now not so much* and spent about 15 on candy for her lol. i dont know how to buy for them as they get older either, its especially difficult with autistic kids. like, misty wants things that are for little kids but wont let you get them for her because if her friends ever come over she doesnt want to look like a baby. and i would love a remote control dinosaur lol. i may buy her 1 wii game too. i love dinosaurs lol. and yeah i have no idea about the school board, its getting ridiculous!

  123. mandee • February 23, 2009 @ 4:28 PM

    OHHH !!! you mean iron man. lol i wasnt even sure who terrence was until i looked him up. dont i look stupid lmfao!

  124. Nancy • February 23, 2009 @ 4:40 PM

    Yeah, sorry, I was getting Transformers and Iron Man mixed up. Terrence Howard was in the Iron Man movie, not Transformers, sorry again. LOL.

  125. mandee • February 23, 2009 @ 11:21 PM

    ohh ok thats ok lol. i thought that maybe you worded it properly and i mistook you, but apparently this time, its YOUR FAULT hehehehe 🙂

  126. Nancy • February 24, 2009 @ 9:41 AM

    Hahahaha true! It’s always my fault…even when it’s not…good thing I have strong shoulders.

  127. mandee • February 24, 2009 @ 6:32 PM

    well, im sure youll learn. lol 🙂 try not to let it happen again : P

  128. Nancy • February 24, 2009 @ 7:27 PM

    I’ll try. No promises though. 😛

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