Jackson’s doctor to be charged with manslaughter
By Alexandra Heilbron on August 21, 2009 | 70 Comments
Dr. Conrad Murray will be charged with manslaughter in the death of Michael Jackson within the next two weeks, reports Fox News. A law enforcement source revealed that Jackson’s doctor may be arrested as early as next Wednesday, but investigators first want to complete a search of a Los Angeles pharmacy. They’re hoping to charge him with second degree murder, but feel a jury will be less likely to convict unless there’s a “smoking gun.” In addition, Jackson’s dermatologist, Dr. Arnold Klein, who admitted giving Jackson Demerol, will at some point be charged with medical malpractice, but police are concentrating on Murray for now. Murray admitted administering the intravenous anesthetic propofol to the singer just hours before his death. Murray posted a one-minute video on Youtube Tuesday, but Broward County prosecutor Kenneth Padowitz calls it a “total PR stunt,” adding, “I think what they’re trying to do is humanize him, trying to make him seem like this is somebody that maybe you could know and this is not a bad guy — that’s what they’re trying to do.”
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anything to make jackon fanatics happy, eh?
It’s about time Doctors are held a lot more responsible than they are. But we should not forget the good old Pharmaceutical companies and their reps who misinform the doctors in the first place!
does anyone actually think that this doctor snuck up and drugged him? i mean, the doctor was certainly wrong to give him the medication in excess, if that is what he did, but we need to remember that he was asked to do this. further, stars seem to be of the delusion that their body can handle more than the average persons can, this delusion allows them to be great but also seems to often end in tragedy.
I feel he should be held responsible… he gave him the stuff and then not long after he died.. he should have known better. Im glad justice will be done.. my mother died almost the same way the damn dr’s gave her medication and she had a heart attack and died.. and their was nothing we could do. so let the truth be told but nothing can bring him back.. we lost a great singer, songwrite humanitariain. Trish
Doctors that have no ethic deserve to pay for their greed. Yes greed, because money comes before patients. There’s lots of good doctors but there is also lots of not-so-good doctors just like women who become nurses to meet a doctor.
Doctors need to be made responsible for their actions regardless of the financial gain as in this case – he administered the drug knowing that he is doing the wrong thing!! It was not done in a legal and professional manner/environment and by an expert and said doctor should face the consequences. Too bad that Jackson had to die for this kind of situation to be exposed.
it’s about time someone pays
Way to go look for a scape-goat, guys! I mean, first you say that there are good doctors, then there are bad doctors that kill people, but how do you know that this gentleman is not a “good doctor”, giving medication upon request of his patient, perhaps without knowing full well what other medications were also being taken without his knowledge – that alone may have stopped him from administering this drug. Perhaps Michael did not tell him of all the other drugs he was taking from other doctors. How can he then make an informed decision whether or not it was safe to administer this drug to Michael.
And again, perhaps, Michael just had a weak heart from all the work he was doing, and this final dose was the tipping point that caused his death, not the fault of this doctor.
It is soooo easy to blame someone for accidnetal death, and yes, unfortunately doctors are easy targets, but they are just human like you and me, not some mystic magicians. Before you get on your high horses, sowing blame left, right and centre, perhaps wait until all the FACTS are in, eh?
I think the doctor should be held responsible. This is no ondinary drug . They are suppose to moniter the patient which it doesn`t sound like he was doing. Because Jackson had the money to pay for this doesn`t make it right. Too many people getting rich off of people with money. Same thing happened to Elvis
1. More medical doctors are misinformed and persuaded to prescribe in excess than are not.
2. Need more money? Write more prescriptions.
3. Leading cause of death in the US and Canada – prescription medications, their side effects and effects of mixing them.
4. Remember, business is business. The more you sell the more you make. The kick backs and benefits in the pharmaceutical industry are insane.
Yes, doctors are human and they are succumbing to fear and greed. Afraid of falling down the socioeconomic ladder, this leads to greed. That is the most logical explanation, unless doctors are totally ignorant to start with!
Why are people so fast at bashing all doctors right away?
Doctors should be held reponsible for their actions, just as politicians, police men, or anybody should hold themselves responsible for their own actions.
Im curious to see if everybody overlooks intent and evidence. Doctors who carry out with the intention of malpractice for personal reasons or financial gain, I agree should be prosecuted.
But their are also thousands of cases where nurses, doctors, and medical personelle, cannot literally make a measured judgement on how much medication should be administered. Most of the time pain killers are a result of a rating of pain by the patient. People die from allergies to medications as well or mixed interactions.
Malicious intent is usually not the first thing on a medical practitioners mind. Even with the greatest of intentions or the intent to save a life, sometimes honest mistakes do happen.
I think autopsy should provide pathologic evidence to support or refute the claims.
We’re so fast at bashing the doctors because if that had been you or I approaching those doctors with drug seeking behaviour, we would have walked away empty handed. They were only interested in the massive profits to be gained by milking a celebrity yet again. Fulfilling drug seeking behaviour for personal gain falls into the category of “harm”.
They should add other people to be charged to this list; his later date plastic surgeon(s); who knew he was less than stable, who knew what harm there was to be done, but proceeded anyway to further pad their bank accounts.
Disgusting.
Why do we hold doctors to a higher degree of accountability? Because of the degree of harm to be done, the level of trust granted. Don’t like that? Get out of medical school, because we will continue to hold them accountable to that degree and more.
I think what most people are forgetting is that in this case, he was given an anaesthetic! You know… drugs you get to put you under before surgery??! Anaesthetists make piles of money because of the danger of the calculations for the fine balance that must be made for each drug delivery… because there is so much liability! Dr. Murray is no anaesthetist; unless of course this information is being withheld from the media. Sadly, most physicians (followed by the leagues of ignorant people who believe this also) think that they know it all, and/or act that way. Well, truth is, there is no way in hell they can — that’s why there are jobs called “specialists”. And sometimes, it comes around to bite them in the behind, like in this case.
Proof positive money can buy anything from anyone, anywhere, except life. The one thing it cannot do is bring back the dead.
geez, it’s about time they announced what killed him, I mean the doctors obviously did because he died from taking the pills.
Rest In Peace Michael Jackson<3
i miss MJ so much!!!
I hate his docter!!!!
IM going to kill him!!!!!
ahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rest in Peace Michael Jackson, Rest in Peace…
Yes I agree Conrad (I will not refer to this irresponsible, greedy, opportunist as Doctor) should be held accountable for not fulfilling his oath to “do no harm.” Conrad admits to being heavily in debt before taking on Michael as a patient. This tells me he was willing to give Michael anything he wanted because of the big paycheque he was getting. Regular drug dealers provide any drug they can get their hands on to anyone who wants it because they are not bound by such an oath. But the general public trusts their Dr’s to keep them safe, and we should be able to expect that from our Doctors.
There needs to be a strong message sent that this practice will not be tolerated and will be harshly punished.
Does anyone but me think the original phone call was a little suspicious regarding this guy’s medical abilities when the emergency worker asked where Michael was and the reply was that he was on the bed? I have taken numerous CPR courses and one of the first things we are told is to get the patient on a firm surface. The emergency person told them to get the patient on the floor. If Conrad is a cardiologist he should KNOW this. Sadly, Michael was likely long gone before the phone call ever came out.
I think Conrad’s video is just his attempt at getting some public sympathy and nothing more. Well the only thing he will get hopefully is a nice long stint in a prison for murdering the worlds greatest and most talented star. Even for people who did not care for Michael, I think you must agree that this kind of irresponsiblity is not acceptable. It could be one of your favourite stars who dies the next time if we don’t make it loud and clear that we expect more integrity from our Doctors. Don’ forget Elvis, Heath Ledger and Anna Nicole. This has to stop.
Yes Michael might have been asking for the drug, but I think anyone would agree that he did not expect or plan to die the night he went to bed under the care of a Doctor he trusted. A responsible Doctor would have said that unfortunately he cannot be a party to administering a drug that is only supposed to be given in the hospital and that the risks are just simply too high, and explain in plain language that the consequences could be DEATH which is simply too much of a risk!!!
I am still so very sad at the loss of such a wonderful person as Michael and I really hope that the police are able to make a case against Conrad that will prove he is responsible for Michael’s death. No it will not bring Michael back, but it might make some of the other Doctors who are playing Russian Roulette with peoples lives think twice about what they are doing and STOP it!!
they knew from the beginning that it would be him. there is justice after all!! Michael can rest in peace, as can his family. they also have Dr. Klein for malpractice. it’s so sad that a great pop star had to succumb to his death the way he did. he left us with his great music and memories. thank-you and GOD BLESS <3 <3 <3
who would have guessed? *rolls eyes*
Michael was a drug addict. If it wasn’t this doctor giving him the drug it would have been another. The doctor should be charged but I don’t think it should be man slaughter.
Yes I agree that Michael Jaskson Doctor should be charged and I don’t think it should be man slaaughter but he should do the time a very long time and I hope that Michael Jackson family will get their time of morn of their loving son and I miss him and rest in peace and let all the Angel’s look after you when you go upstair to with the lord our Father.
a good doctor will know what medications his patient is on before administiring a high douse of deprivan.
let me repeat a GOOD doctor, clearly he was not.
or he would’ve known michael was also on pain killers from when he broke his back, he didnt care about michael he was in it for the $150,000 he was being paid. It’s as simple as that, let justice finally be served and the greatest singer/songwritter and humanitarian be buried in peace, Toronto loves you michael may you be with god now.
Dr. Murray was an enabler, and partly responsible for the death of Michael Jackson. Michael himself is also responsible for the consequence of his own death by asking and/or demanding the drugs. Dr. Murray did not have the strength to say ‘no’ and walk away from the situation. One has to wonder why. Sadly, if he has walked away, Michael would have found another doctor/enabler to do the same thing.
I do not believe what he says in this video. He wants us to believe his hands are not dirty.
What a bunch of pure BS this man speak’s. He was there from the beginning and just for the money, he should be held fully responsible. Using God, in his statement, what a bunch of Shit.
are we forgetting something about mr jackson he was not saint remember going to court about child molestion so if he was willing to try to hide that then why not hide the type of drugs he was taking and then he had ask for more so dont put it all on the doctor just rememeber that ppl make there own choices
Yabba,don’t be so naive.Doctors can be greedy and amoral too.
Also do not forget that Michael Frequently asked for this drug from his nurse (who is all over the television the last few days and gave all the drugs she found and all the syringes, medical supplies, etc. to the police,) so HE (being M.J.) knew of the consequences of this drug, so the blame should lie on both of them, as he wanted it and he found someone to give it to him. If this doctor had of said no (like his nurse did), he simply would have paid another dcotor a HUGE amount to do the same and he/she would also be in the same boat now as this doctor is. I know how much everyone loved M.J. but he had a serious DRUG problem and that is on his back, he makes the decisions to swallow the pills or not and his nurse said that he had SO many pills that there were drawers of them, that it looked like a pharmacy, including 3-4 different anti-depressants when normally one would only take one (or 2 max) type of anti-depressants, and they were all visible in his bathroom with his drug supplies that the doctor would have needed to use to give him the Diprovan, so he should definitely have his license revoked and serve SOME jail time, but not manslaughter as M.J. wanted and took those drugs of his own accord, so you cannot only blame the doctor in this case!!
P.S. Dianne on August 21, 2009 5:07 PM,
My sentiments exactly!!
I agree he should be charged but really the main person to blame in the death of Michael Jackson is Michael himself.
Dont blame Michael, even if he asked for drugs, the doctor should have been more responsible enough knowing full well those drugs are not to be given outside a hospital setting. Those drugs are designed to put you in a coma state sleep by an professional well trained anesthesiologists, who have the equipement to monitor the patient closely while an operation is taking place. Thats the only purpose for these drugs. The doctor Conrad Murray acted irresponsible, greedy and should have his licence revoked. He is the person who caused the death of Michael Jackson as 2 biopsies were done, and it fully confirmes how he died. Its the drug PROPOFOL that caused Michael heart to stop, and the doctor did nothing to save his life. Giving Michael CPR on a bed is a joke, as you always give CPR lying on the floor or ground. Its purely manslaughter!
I feel that there should have been more looking into the main reasons for not being able to sleep. Instead of inducing his sleep with a sedative that is for putting you under before surgery. That is so dangerous as we see that it took the life of a pop star too early in his life.
Too many Doctors are ready to give you drugs to help you sleep drugs to help you get up. More needs to be done to help the insomniacs studying isn’t enough obviously. If no body can hear the cry’s for help to sleep isn’t paying enough attention to the needs of the patient.
But that is just my opinion.
God Bless and Keep you Michael
Marla
this is good. dr shouldnt give that stuff its for surgury
The fact that Michael asked for the drugs and could have asked someone else for them if this doctor said no, doesn’t make this doctor any less guilty of supplying (and administering) the drugs.
Look the whole point is that he acted like he didn’t do anything in the first place when he was asked. Now if he did not have anything to hide why didn’t he just owned up to the fact that he had given Michael the drugs hours before and he forgot, which led up to his death. Yes he asked for the drug but he also assumed that the doctor would be monitoring him to wake him up right!!!!!!!!!!!!
That’s true Tribute Girl!! But at the same time, Michael was the one that wanted and allowed the drug to be administered, so he’s JUST as at fault as his nurse (who was on TV, who turned him down on several occasions,) told him of the dangers of going under, (as is everyone who has ever had surgery is always told there is a slight risk of death,) but the more drugs you take, of course the higher the risk, and obvivously the doc HAD to know, especially after seeing the crime scene, WOW, talk about an addicts bedroom, with an incontinence pad on the bed, so M.J. knew he could be out for days and not pee the bed, and in this case FOREVER because of his poor choice of drugs and NOT listening to others who advised him against it!!
April If we go by what your story says,the nurse should be charged as well as the doctor.You say the nurse turned him down on several occasion’s to administer the drug right? Well then she, as a professional should have reported the illegal use of Propofol being used outside of a hospital setting AND not by a qualified anesthesiologist.Therefore she is also guilty of withholding information that may have saved MJ’S life. Then there is also the fact that she would have known of the other medication’s that MJ was using ,so in my opinion, they are both guilty of being unprofessional.The nurse a small part the doctor a huge part. As we all know when this drug is used, the patient is monitored the ENTIRE time, while under use of Propofol.The doctor’s and nurse’s don’t go for a coffee break, or take a nap, then come back and check up on said patient.They were enabler’s that chose to do the wrong thing for a drug dependant person,that makes them guilty as hell and NO BETTER THAN A DRUG PUSHER OFF THE STREET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TRIBUTEGIRL YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!
micheal jackson died of a heart attak he was adicted to drugs
his doctor gave him tose drugs!!!
but u couldnt help urself, eh joanne?
okay nancy…
So, what, there are actually only two people who comment on this website?
Hahahaha, apparently so, Tributegirl. Nancy and Nancy, hahahaha.
LMAO, you are all of us!
moondog,
You’ve been calling people like Mandee, me, Jo-Anne and more IDJITS (have no idea what it is, but am pretty sure what you’d like it to be) and obviously we are all sick of it, especially when you start to post using Mandee’s name, so why not cut it out, unless you want a lot of us to start picking on you!! Again, DICTIONARY, try it someday!!
gypsy,
First, in regards to your name, I answered it with this post (from another blog when you told me about your name and how it came to be):
April on August 17, 2009 7:34 PM
gypsy and Shauna,
I love the name, it��s different!! Never said I didn��t and also did not know I could not post under �aprilshowers�� as Tribute said to use our REAL names, so thanks Shauna for your 1:08 a.m. blog, but I guess it��s too late now for me, LOL!!
As for the incontinence pads, I DO NOT have an obsession for them, and to think I so, is kinda weird for someone to think of?
I also have a very expensive bed, which has a warranty that says that they will clean any spills etc., for free BUT you have to have a waterproof matress cover, so why would I buy pads down, when I bought a waterproof mattress cover, so IF anything were to spill, I simply throw it into the wash? Why buy several pads to cover the whole mattress when you can buy a waterproof cover?
Also, this nurse DID leave M.J.’s employ and was the one who handed over all the evidence from his room to the police, so that is why she is not being prosecuted as she did nothing wrong, because she reported it!! She is the one that blew the whistle on everything!! She refused to give him the DRUG that killed him and that is why she left, as she did not agree with what he wanted or was doing!! You agree with Tribute girl and so did I completely, so I do not understand why you are so angry at me about this?
I was surprized about hearing about the nurse and how she could have reported Michael taking All of the different types of drugs(never thought of it). In particular, I think he would be alive right now if she had come forward that Mr. Murray was giving him the anesthetic!
April I was not angry with you,I was just wondering why the nurse wasn’t being charged as she knew what was going on.I also stated if she had reported the doctor to the proper authorities before M.J. had passed away, he may have been put into drug rehab,and would be alive today.As for the mattress pad I also have mattress cover for my bed but I use the pad on hubby’s side as he tends to smoke in bed and fall’s asleep with lit cigarette,so that is the first thing that burns and not the cover,feather bed or top of mattress.
There is just so many different stories that are being told, I do believe they are all trying to cover their own a@@’s.
Boy that is sure true gypsy,
SO many stories arwe going around, it’s hard to keep up!!
I’m like your hubby and I’m UNFORTUNATELY a smoker and do not have one set of sheets with out at least one hole in them, and I’m SO sick ond tired of it as I spend a lot on sheets (as I like HIGH thread counts, as I hate when sheets pill, YUCH!!) So I have to try and watch what I’m doing, but because of my chronic pain, I go to bed and watch TV and do not fall asleep until sunrise and if I have a cigarette in my hand, I usually always hold it over the ashtray on my night table, so if I DO fall asleep, it falls into my ashtray, but it has fallen out of my hand (as I also have numbness in my right hand caused by a pinched nerve, so it can totally go numb on me and the cigarette will fall from my hand without me even knowing,) so my carpet has a few holes, so I bought those small carpets and put one right beside my bed on top of the other carpet to protect it!! It would be better to quit for sure, but I have to have one bad habit, LOL, as I do not drink and since I cannot exercise, I would gain a TON of weight if I quit, but might have to as I’ve had chest pains lately and had to have the STRESS test done, so I’m a litle worried now, as my health is important, so I should TRY and quit sooner than later!!
Hi Rita,
She did not know that Dr. Murray was giving him the drug, as she had already left as she had refused to do it, so she didn’t want to have anything to do with him anymore (and that’s why she turned in all the stuff and said what she did) so she did not know if and who he hired as she was no longer living there anymore. I heard this from her in an interview she gave on TV.
I just heard on news M.J.’S DEATH IS RULED HOMICIDE, DOCTER WILL BE CHARGED
So did I gypsy,
That is why I came on here as well. Apparently he got the 50 ml dose he normally asked for EVERYNIGHT (for the past few months apprently) but still could not fall asleep, so the Dr. gave me another 25 ml and with the mixture of all the other drugs he was taking, it killed him!!
well, someone should alert Tribute of your issue with all the idjits on here and undoubtedly they’ll put you on their Board of Directors…I’m sure your “style” is just what they’re clamoring to add to their site…
Oh, I’m sure you’ve already alerted them, Jo-WAnne….over and over and…, hahaha. And, when it comes right down to it, I’d take moondog’s “style” over yours!
moondog,
As I’ve told you time and time again, GET A LIFE AND BUY A DICTIONARY!! You change your mind like your underwear (well, on second thoguht maybe not as you change your mind everyday and WHO KNOWS HOW OFTEN YOU CHANGE YOUR UNDERWEAR, LMAO!!) so go bug someone else as on this blog you are standing up for Mandee and on 2 others you are slamming her totally, so MAKE UP YOUR DARN MIND, IDJIT!!
P.S. moondog,
You say that Mandee is the only one using her real name, than I guess you’ve admitted that your REAL name isn’t “moondog”, WHAT A SHOCKER EVERYONE, “moondog” is NOT A REAL NAME, ALERT CNN AND THE NATIONAL POST, ROTFLAMO!!!
April Give it a rest on the dictionary sh@t, can’t you tell when someone is egging you on,little one’s need attention even if it’s bad! Your gonna give yourself a stress attack if you keep letting him get to ya.
Hey april! I’ve liked mandee for a long time now, she’s got a great heart, good person, no worries. Even when we disagree, it’s all good there, I feel anyhow.
No worries re the other two, your choices are your own, doesn’t change our relationship on here one bit…
Great Jo,
As that is what I care about the MOST!! I hoped but KNEW you would understand!! Merci mon meilleur amie!! I swear this “moondog” is such a SH&T distuber, but I don’t care, just like to bug him as I know it has to be someone on here OR he is just trying to raise CRAP amongst everyone (but it seems like everyone is doing fine at that themselves, LOL!!) I answered you on the Brad Pitt blog (quite a long story, sorry) and I left out that I’m SUPER jealous about you going to Daughtry, LOL!!
Later gator!!
gypsy,
No worries, I’m NOT letting him bother me, I’m just bugging him back as I do not appreciate him trying to come between my friends on here, that’s all and he sure changes his mind a lot, doesn’t he/she, LOL?? I thought my P.S. was actually REALLY FUNNY, but no one laughed, oh well, c’est la vie!!
I left you a note on the Celine blog (about her embryo etc.) a few days ago, but if you did not see it and do, and prefer not to answer I will understand!!
totally understood, april!
re moondog, I have no concerns at all, in fact interestingly enough, but a few moons ago he was in real good with my loving adorable posters, nance and t.g., jabbing (well, putting up a fighting effort actually) me daily and they all got along famously….what a difference “a day” makes, hahahaha…
I consider him/her the last of the one liners, his/her stuff is never lengthy, unique lingo, always contains a dig (usually to me) and eerily reminiscent of my “long lost buddy” on here Yerranus…
p.s. I did catch that and so so so true!
Yeah Jo,
I, too, find it strange that “Yerranus” (oh what a vulgar FAKE name) has disappeared and spoke the same lingo as “moondog” who as far as I believe, belongs in outer space, LOL!! Especially with his/her/it lingo, LMAO!! You’re right, easier to ignore than to reply!!
That’s funny, I don’t remember getting “along famously” with moondog at any point in time, in fact he’s called me an idjit as well, including recently. And from what I remember, most of his “digs” were mostly to mandee. Although I do agree that he does sound a lot like Yerraynus.
I’m not talking recently, t.g…point being when moondog made his digs against me, you and Nance were there on the sidelines “hahahaha, great line, oh, you’re so funny, kissy kissy facing” and now….
you find yourself coralled into the Idjit Lineup and….as I said earlier, what a difference a day makes…
I never said you got along famously with moondog, tribute girl, just agreeing with Jo about how the 2 of them sound alike!!
I know you didn’t say that, April, I meant Joanne, she said it. And she’s wrong, I’ve never gotten along with him, not recently, not ever. He’s always called me an idjit as well, he’s called every one of us that, your comment made it sound (to me, anyway) that you were his biggest “victim”, but I still think mandee has been the biggest target for him.
And I agree, April, moondog DOES sound a lot like Yerraynus. Interesting, huh?
Oops, in my 11:14 comment, where I said “your comment”, I meant Joanne’s comment, not Aprils.
No problem Tribute girl, I understand!!
Hey Jo,
Are you still visiting this blog as I have something to tell you and do not want to get into it if you are not on this blog anymore? So let me know and I’ll check back later okay? I’ve not been around a lot lately (due to bad pain) so have not been on the computer, but wanted to ask you something?!!