Mother begs Elton John not to take her boy
By Alexandra Heilbron on October 8, 2009 | 27 Comments
The mother of a 15-month-old Ukrainian baby boy that Elton John had wanted to adopt has asked him to drop his plans, according to British paper The Sun. Marina, the 25-year-old mother who is an HIV positive alcoholic, said she wants to get her life together so she can get Lev and his three-year-old brother, Artyrom, back from the orphanage. The children were taken away last May by social workers when she was on a binge. “I know Elton fell in love with my Lev. It’s impossible not to love him,” she said, adding, “But I’m going to overcome my problems. I so much want my babies back. I don’t mind Elton being gay. But if he wants to adopt a child, he should find one without any parents,” she told the paper. John was visiting the Ukraine when he met Lev and petitioned to adopt the child.
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let her “overcome her problems” first, I’d say before handing these children back…
do not agree with mom’s comment Elton should find a child without any parents…clearly some parents don’t measure up
There is a very slim chance she will get her life together and be able to be a good mother to these children, it looks to me like she is denying this child a chance at a decent life. Also, her gay comment really doesn’t fit in there at all, that one comment looks really awkward in her whole speech.
so it makes more sense to this woman and the uk to possibly give the babies back to someone that is hiv positive and has an addiction than to hand it to someone who is 62? that is really sickening, and how does she plan to “over come” hiv?
My husband is 66 and we have a 6 yr old daughter. He is a far better stay-at home Dad at his age then most of the young 20-somethings he sees every morning when taking her to school. Trust me – as long as the prospective parent is realatively healthy, then age should NOT be a factor!
Their is no way a homo should be able to adopt kids. It is wrong obviously.
That’s exactly why I don’t believe everything a reporter says’s in their stories.They make up so much bull just to get printed,that three quarter’s of their story they pull outta the sky.When I read this article the only child she seemed to care about was LEV I believe she only remembered,near the end of the article her 3yr old son as a after thought.Her being a drunk,I would think that 4 months is plenty of time to get sober,If she actually cared about her children!!I know it’s a life long addiction,but being HIV-Positive she should know that she may not have that much time left, to give the kid’s the love and medical support, that they are going to need.I PERSONALLY think she is being selfish by not letting Elton and his partner adopt the child,and I believe they would take his brother as well.I THINK THAT IS WHAT ANY LOVING MOTHER IN HER SITUATION WOULD DO.
Funny how the tables turn. Not long ago, there were horrid remarks made of a woman in her 60’s having a baby. How sickening and disgusting it all was that at her age she’d have a child. BUT….put some dazzling fame and a pile of money, and turn the 66 yr.old parent into a male, and how everyone coo’s and aww’s over how sad that Elton would be denied as a parent. Geez!! What a twisted and unfair world!
My father was 60 when I was born and died when I was 26. I don’t think it’s fair to have a parent so much older than their child. Everyone used to think my father was my grandfather and it was easier letting them think that than continually having to explain the age difference between my parents.
When I was ten my father had a stroke and could not really participate in much after that. I always longed for a younger parent.
I don’t think Elton John should be allowed to adopt the child; he’s too old.
why cant he help her and the baby?? he has the $$ if he loves the baby so much—I am sure he would ask for his MOM to be helped if and when he was older????
Minerva…If a woman can have a child when she’s in her 60’s,I’d say GOOD FOR HER, age doesn’t matter to me.As for the fame and money I personally don’t believe that has anything to do with how much you love any child.In this case because the children are HIV-positive it would take someone who has money, to pay for the treatment both boy’s will need, in order to give them a better quality of life.I don’t believe they should suffer because of age,race or sex of a person who can give them a loving home.This world has always been twisted and unfair and it will stay that way until we as human being’s stick together to change it.
“I know it��s a life long addiction”
How do you Know its a Life long addiction?
I was hearing in the Media Only in the last few years that alcohol or drug addiction was a life time addiction. That maybe is so, but the experts didn’t say that EVERYONE had that addiction ALL their Lives. I’ve Never been an addict but had Difficulty with certain things I love alot(having them to an excess) and I’ve been able to Reduce the use of it and will Never be tempted to have them tooooo much again! That falls in the area of addiction. The experts came out with the idea above and they Can’t speak for everyone. Theres certain people that get addicted for certain reasons and once they kick the habit they Never ever look back. Its Not one size fits all mentality! Based on what I’ve been taught all my Life, I just don’t listen to the latest “fads”. Some people exercise their will and Choice to Not to use again, or be addicted again or have an excess of things again.
I agree with a lot of people that homosexuals shouldn’t have children. They choice to have that “lifestyle” and by having that lifestyle they cannot have chidren. You obviously need a man&woman to have a child. Even though the media state cases that work when homosexuals have children; they never mention the children that grow up mixed up because they didn’t have a mother or a father as in the case of 2 women having a child!! I know if I would have been in that situation, I’d do all in my power to get myself out of this kind of household, Even though I would be a child. Even If one of the women was my mom. If I would have been with my father and he was living with another man, I would do the same too. Please don’t ask me what I would’ve done.
Minerva on October 9, 2009 12:33 AM i dont think the reason they said it was disgusting was because of her age and her being a mom. i think it was because she was PREGNANT. after 35 carrying a baby can potentially become a life threatening thing (for both you and the baby) so a woman getting pregnant at 60 or whatever is just wrong. also, with the over population and all the children with no homes and no loving parents to care for them, if you want a baby so badly why not just adopt?
Rita on October 9, 2009 4:19 AM it must not have been an ADDICTION you had then. what gypsy meant is once you HAVE an addiction, it is there for life. my dad used to be an alcoholic, he still wants to drink ALL the time but doesnt because he becomes abusive and my mother said if he wants to live with her hes not allowed to have alcohol. why do you think sooo many people “fall off the wagon”? because addictions are impossible to get rid of. “I agree with a lot of people that homosexuals shouldn��t have children. They choice to have that �lifestyle�� and by having that lifestyle they cannot have chidren.” that must be the most closed minded 2 sentences i have ever read. you think that because someone is homosexual they lose any right to having a child? thats whats wrong with the world, no one has any tolerance for people that havent done anything wrong and that havent hurt anyone else. who a person has sex with shouldnt define wether or not someone likes them or thinks they should be “allowed” to have children or get married. it is a god given right to have children or be married. just because youre gay, that shouldnt change because some people dislike the idea. ive said it before, and ill say it again. imagine if being homosexual was the every day (as being straight is right now) do you seriously believe these people would then decide those of us that happen to love a member of the opposite sex should not be allowed to be married or have or adopt a child? i highly doubt it because from what i can see, they arent as bitter and unaccepting as the straight people are.
oops, spelled whether wrong 🙁 my bad. have a great day all, off to work!
This is so idiotic what the Ukraine Government is putting my idol through. There are so many unwanted or neglected babies and children out there and there are parents out there who want children but cannot have them for whatever reason. The fact that Elton John is involved in a same sex relationship should not make any difference in the world when it comes to being a parent. When you talk about the age, let me tell you that my mother left me in the hospital when I was born and the nurses called my Grandmother who was in her 50’s. For the first 3 years of my life I thought my grandparents were my parents. By the way when my Grandmother brought me home from the hospital my Grandfather was in his late 70’s. My mother was a hard-core alcoholic and my birth father was a big time gambler and alcoholic. At age 3 my mother decided she wanted to be a mom and reclaimed me. Needless to say from that age forward my life was absolutely horrible as it was filled with much violence and physical abuse not too mention the alcohol. I myself ended up an alcoholic, but I am now in recovery and have been for the past 12 years.
J. on October 9, 2009 12:43 AM
My father was 24 when I was born and he died when I was 20 and he was 44. Obviously his young age didn’t help me any. Age shouldn’t matter as long as Elton and his partner are prepared and willing to love and care for this child. Perhaps the child may have to go through the heartache of losing a parent to death. It is terrible and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy but the reality is that anyone of us can get into a car accident tomorrow and we will leave behind loved ones. Furthermore, the birth mother could very well die sooner than Elton John due to her uncurable disease.
Rita on October 9, 2009 4:19 AM
“I agree with a lot of people that homosexuals shouldn��t have children. They choice to have that �lifestyle�� and by having that lifestyle they cannot have chidren. You obviously need a man&woman to have a child.”
So you are saying that I should go out and get pregnant this weekend by a man, force the man to partake in my child’s life to ensure a “father figure” and all will be right in this world? I am sure that there are many homosexuals that raise a child better than straight people. Morals, respect disipline and mostly love are needed in raising a child and there are a lot of both broken homes and homes that both mom and dad live in with the children that have none of these qualities. To have such a close minded attitude about raising children is a disgrace. And a child will adapt and appreciate the household that they are given; especially if it is a loving, open atmosphere. It is the 21st Century now where homosexuality is more prevalent and accepted. Perhaps you should open your mind to it.
I agree with J. My dad was 64 when I was born (mom was 46). I always longed for younger parents who could do things with me. It was nice having my parents always at home (retired already), but dad had a heart attack when I was 7 and they never really attended any of my activities,etc. with mom always having to care for him. I loved them, but I think there is a reason for the age restriction on adoption. Maybe Elton could take in a teen who needs fostering?
I THINK ELTON AND HIS PARTNER SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO ADOPT BOTH OF THE CHILDREN AND MAYBE HE COULD HELP THE MOTHER. AS WE ALL KNOW SHE PROBABLY DOESN’T HAVE MANY YEARS TO LIVE. I UNDERSTAND HER FEELINGS BUT SHE SHOULD LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITY SHE WOULD BE GIVING HER SONS. SHE COULD PROBABLY WORK OUT A DEAL WITH ELTON PRIVATELY. OF COURSE THE PICTURES OF ELTON HOLDING THE BABY MAKES US ALL THINK THE BABY IS COMFORTABLE WITH HIM. BUT ELTON PLEASE THINK OF THE OLDER BOY HE NEEDS HELP ALSO NOT JUST THE BABY. GOOD LUCK. IF IT’S MEANT TO BE IT WILL WORK OUT.
Robyn on October 9, 2009 11:45 AM that is the best comment i think ive ever read. 😀
Gypsy, I totally agree with all your comments, you too mandee. Elton’s sexual preferences should have absolutely nothing to do with this, I think the only time a persons sexual preferences should have anything to do with it is if they are sexually attracted to children, which I don’t believe Elton or his partner are. The mother is not able to take care of these children, and there is a very loving, wealthy couple who are able/willing to take care of them, why would she deny her children that? It would be a far cry from growing up in an orphanage!
mandee on October 9, 2009 9:16 AM Sorry Mandee I don’t agree with your reply that the posters in that previous thread were concerned about the health and well-being of the woman in her 60’s having a baby. The flavour of the thread was actual disgust, I remember it clearly.
As for ‘why not adopt if you want a baby so bad, well, some people want their own flesh and blood and can’t truly love another person’s child as their own. I was adopted and my adoptive mother had strong issues and could not love me as she loved her son, who was her own child. Some people should never adopt. She told me many times that if she had it to do over again she would never have adopted me. So adopting isn’t always the best option for some people.
wow, im sorry to hear that. thats terrible. i dont understand how someone can raise any child and not love them. it just doesnt make sense to me. i work in a daycare and i already love those kids. my aunt raised my cousin, who was HER child, and didnt ever love her. she treated her so badly that my cousin now has all kinds of problems. its not just adoptive parents that cant love the children they have.
i dont remember what was said (or if i was even here when that article was posted) about the 60 year old. so you are probably right and it wasnt about her health. 🙁
HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE !
I love Elton John, didn’t realize he was on the whole “adopt a kid” like everyone else. But really, this woman, some people just should not have kids, it is a shame. She obviously can’t take care of herself, how can she think she can take care of a child?
she should want for the best for her 2 kids. let go for them to have a better life
Lets not forget about elton johns drug problems before he gets a baby.
“I agree with a lot of people that homosexuals shouldn��t have children. They choice to have that �lifestyle�� and by having that lifestyle they cannot have chidren. You obviously need a man&woman to have a child.”
I’m just sitting here shaking my head in disgust. I thought this was the 21st century? Since when did homosexuality become a choice? you either are or you aren’t. the men and women out there who are gay and choose to live a “straight” lifestyle usually end up being miserable their entire lives. believe me, i know
i agree with your comment. thats exactly what i was about to say because i thought you said you agreed lol.
Minerva, that’s disgusting, I don’t understand how someone can raise a child and not love it. I know someone who has biological and adoptive children, and if you ask her which ones are “hers”, meaning her biological children, she says she doesn’t remember. She does, of course, but she loves them all the same.