Nick Cannon shows support for Chris Brown
By Alexandra Heilbron on March 12, 2010 | 23 Comments
Mariah Carey’s husband Nick Cannon has urged people to give Chris Brown another chance. Chris was sentenced to five years’ probation and six months’ community labor after he admitting punching, biting and choking his ex-girlfriend Rihanna last year. He was also barred from contacting the singer for five years and told to attend domestic violence classes for 52 weeks. Since the assault Chris’ career has plummeted and he has recorded a message for his fans, asking them to help him become a successful artist again. Cannon believes everyone deserves a second chance. “He has and is paying his debt to society, let that man live. No one should be withheld from trying to make a living,” Nick wrote. “When someone does something wrong, they need help and rehabilitation not outcasted (sic). He without sin cast the first stone!” Although Nick is keen to show his support for the fallen pop star, the 29-year-old was also quick to point out he doesn’t condone Chris’ abusive behavior towards Rihanna. He insists men should never be violent towards women. “Remember I was 1 of the first to come out and say there is No reason to EVER put your hands on a woman. But I just call it as it is,” he wrote on Twitter. Chris has lashed out at the industry, claiming stores weren’t even stocking his new record and radio stations are refusing to give his music any airplay.
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I do believe the kid deserves a second chance, but it way take some time to forgive the guy in the eyes of the public. The thing we have to remember is that the kind of behavior Chris Brown demonstrated if learned. If he does what the judge wants and takes it seriously he will be okay, but if he just goes through the motions and keeps behaving poorly in spite of all the support he was given for doing such a horrible thing……People will never forgive the guy. I guess only time will tell.
A 2nd chance doesn’t mean a successful music or acting career. His 2nd chance can be something out of the spot light. I’m sure his “fans” will let him have that!
Exactly, Just a Thought.
Cannon says, “He has and is paying his debt to society, let that man live. No one should be withheld from trying to make a living,”
No one is stopping him from “making a living”. I know one thing though, I will never buy this beaters music. My itunes has been washed clean of him. Do I care if he works at McD’s? No. Will I buy his music? No. Will I buy Rihanna’s music? Damn right! Love her ‘Rated R’ cd!
I wouldn’t say he’s being “withheld” from making a living, I bet Walmart would hire him! Like “Just a Thought” said, a 2nd chance doesn’t mean a successful music or acting career. We don’t owe him anything.
It amazes me how people like George Bush,(got voted in office a second term after send thousands of soldiers to their deaths on a lie),
Charlie Sheen,(allegedly hit or pulled a knife on his wife/a new mother on Christmas and has been accused of violent and demeaning behavoir tword his x-wife)
Robert Downy jr. consistantly in and out of drug rehab, and
RHIANNA herself, June 2007 (Rihanna told Complex magazine about her brothers: “We used to fight and when I say fight, I don’t mean arguments, I mean physically fight. I HIT THE OLDER ONE IN HIS FACE WITH A GLASS BOTTLE. My mom was pretty upset.”)
All of these people get to have a second chance. Why can’t this (at the time) 19 year old kid that made a MISTAKE have a second chance. Why do we live in a society that is so willing to throw away our young black men. If he had been an older man with a history of abusing many women even after he had been punished OK but this is a kid that didn’t have a life manual on how to handle extream situations and now he’s trying to do better with what he has learned give him a chance to prove he has changed. I know anyone out there that’s over 25 can say they are different fromthier 19 year old self and if they can’t they shouldn’t be judging anyway.
CK#1, what does this have to do with him being a young black man? NOTHING, that’s what. I didn’t vote Bush in, I didn’t give Charlie Sheen, or anyone else that shows a tendancy towards extreme violence a second chance, and I do not intend to give Chris Brown a second chance either. I didn’t grow up with a “life manual on how to handle extream situations” either, yet I didn’t go around beating people up.
Theres no real excuse to hit women. the only time is when ones trying to kill you with a knife or whatever.
I dont think Chris Browns not making a living, he’ll do just fine. he just needs to learn how to treat women with respect and maybe donate some $ to worthy causes.
OK people I’ll grant you those coments, but what about Rhiana, considering (by her own admission) she hit her own brother in the face with a glass bottle there is no telling what she did to Chris…..and like DylanA said “Theres no real excuse to hit women. the only time is when ones trying to kill you with a knife or whatever” are you guys giving her a pass for her violent behavior?
furthermore how do you know Chris hasn’t leared how to treat women? I haven’t heard anything about him fighting with any other women…..and get your facts straight Chris Brown has always been a major contributor to worhty causes…..he has been sponsoring several youth charities before and after the “incident” and he is a major contributor the the Hati relief effort.
Don’t get it twisted, I don’t condone violence of any kind to anyone….people who know me would tell you I would be the first to come to the aid of a stranger in harms way….also I am a female that has been in an abussive relationship as a teen and was lucky enough to find the love of a good man afetr that relationship.
The reason I’m defensive of Chris is this,
I think that if we continue to condim him with out giving him a chance to redeem himself he amy loose his faith in people and he will become this uncaring monster that people make him out to be….he’ll feel like no one cares about him so why shouild he care about anybody else…I’ve seen this happen to young people to often that had dreams to be someone and no one would give them a chance.
On the flip side, I’ve been with my husband for 21 years….we have a great relationship, he’s a great father, he takes very good care of us finacially and emotionally, he allows me to be myself and is supportive, me him and the kids do everything and go everywhere together, he dosen’t cheat on me, he dosen’t hit me, and he actually enjoys being with me.
we have been together since we were teens and it wasn’t always easy, he even hit me ONE time….about 3 years into our relationship. I pushed his buttons until he busted my nose, I was furious….I got him put in jail, tried to get him beat up, didn’t talk to him for months…then I took responsibility for my part in the situation, (I’m not saying that I excused him but since I had told him, in a mean and sarcastic manor, that I slept with someone he hated I could understand how he could loose control) we talked, and he expressed to me how remorseful he was and I new it was different from the last guy that used to hit me almost daily…..well 18 years later his has never raised his hand to me again and he is a better father and husband than most men I know, I don’t know where I would be without him and I got all this because I gave him a second chance.
“No one should be withheld from trying to make a living�� hahaha. he is capable of “making a living” without being in the spotlight where his abusive, disgusting ways can be brought to light so they can poison the minds of his impressionable fans. “everyone deserves a second chance” no, they sure do not. when you physically harm someone youre supposed to love, you basically lost the RIGHT to ever expect a second chance from anyone.
nancy, lets hope if he works at Mc D’s he doesnt get mad about what kind of hamburger someone wants and beat them up, tg lets hope they dont make him the greeter in walmart. no one wants to be greeted by an abuser.
CK#1 on March 12, 2010 5:29 PM “our young black men” ???? are you serious? its not that we are throwing away someone based on their skin colour, we are throwing away someone based on their physical actions that left someone looking like they had been hit by a bus. drug rehab? seriously you want to compare someone that uses drugs and harms only themselves to someone that “choked, bit and punched” his girlfriend? thats a ridiculous comparison. also, i didnt hear anyone else giving charlie sheen a second chance, and hes WHITE ! or did you miss that? also, im not saying that it makes it ok or right but the situation between a brother and a sister is completely different than one between a boyfriend and girlfriend. if people dont punish chris NOW for his abusive behaviour he is going to grow up thinking its ok to get angry and knock your girlfriends/wifes/childrens teeth out of their mouth because he didnt like what was being said. he is a danger to society and women. i dont feel bad for him.
tributegirl on March 12, 2010 6:33 PM well said !
DylanA on March 13, 2010 3:34 AM well said as well. also, on the topic of chris making a living, shouldnt he have enough left over from his moment in the spotlight to last him a lifetime compared to what us civilians make in a lifetime? i will never feel bad for any celeb when they are all of a sudden (by their own doing) no longer a part of that industry.
CK#1, I don’t care that Chris Brown has been “a major contributor to worhty causes”, anybody can contribute to “worhty” causes, even a$$holes like Chris Brown. Also, “he��ll feel like no one cares about him”, well guess what? I DON’T care about him! I don’t care if he loses faith in people, I don’t care if he does or doesn’t “redeem himself”. Respect is not given, it’s earned, and he has done NOTHING to earn my respect.
CK#1 March 13 @ 3:53 PM: “Don’t get it twisted, I don’t condone violence of any kind to anyone….people who know me would tell you I would be the first to come to the aid of a stranger in harms way” – Your “friends” obviously haven’t met me then. I come to the aid of strangers all the time. Proven on this website repeatedly. Of course they are not in harms way on here but you can just imagine what I’d do when this crap happens right in front of me, LOL.
hmm i meant to say HIS girlfriends/wifes/childrens…
You don’t even know me, Jo-WAnne, so how would you know whether I am “pretty” or “slightly interesting” or not? You’ve been gone and things have been pretty good here but now the QUEEN LEECH is back!
Yes no one should EVER out their hands on a woman for any reason whatsoever! But when this incident happened no one else came out and claimed that Chris was abusive to them NO other woman so what does that say. I am from the Caribbean and believe me she was not all innocent in all of this. We all deserve another chance especially if we are trying to better ourselves. But as the good Bible says “He who is without sin cast the first stone.” None of us are perfect and we all make mistakes no matter how big or small, any one who says that they have never made a mistake they are liars, an no better than Chris. We all make mistakes and try to learn from them, he should get a chance to do that.
even slightly interesting is a huge stretch….judging by your past/current lingo….i know that much
agree, kim, but one step further….i believe no one should put their (abusive) hands on man, woman, child or animal…and yes, that includes the s word…spanking…
let the flood gates open
Thankyou Kim you said it well, and God forbid any of the others every make a mistake they regret because how can you expext to be forgiven if you don’t have the capacity to forgiven…..
Are any of you Christians? If you are think about what Jesus would do? did he waste his time on the cross to make sure that we ALL had a chance to repent and be forgiven? I think he would be sadden that people were willing to condem rather than give words of encouragement and motivation to do better….remember while you sinners are casting stones you too will be judge one day.
Also, I’d rather be punched and bit by someone who i can walk away from forever than hit in the face with a glass bottle by someone who has to be appart of my life forever…they share a mother you can’t break those ties….and since she dosen’t have to answer for her behavior or take anger management classes I’m afraid to think of what she might do when she gets angry because women can be dangerous too…(Naomi Campbell and her leathel wepon cell phones)
At least he is trying to better himself.
Kim on March 14, 2010 9:31 AM you are right. we all make mistakes, but last time i checked we didnt ALL beat someones face in. just because chris’ exs didnt come forward and say they were abused, doesnt mean they werent. there are many people in the world that are/were abused that will never tell anyone. let me ask you a question, if you were dating a man and never heard of anything bad about him, then he all of a sudden PUNCHED, BIT and CHOKED you would you claim YOU werent innocent? that it was YOUR fault because no one ever said he abused them before? or is this specifically for rhianna?
CK#1 on March 14, 2010 12:32 PM i seriously dont care what jesus would say or do, anyone that would forgive a man after leaving a woman looking like rhianna did is f*cked up. about the brother/sister situation, how do you know how old they were when this happened? CHILDREN do bad and stupid things sometimes, things they would never consider doing as adults. me and my brother have a pretty close relationship, although when we were younger we were always fighting and beating each other up. forgiving a brother or a sister for a stupid fight that escalated is different than being ok with someone that you are intimate with, thats supposed to LOVE you BEATING the crap out of you. it changes you. it scars you. it ruins you for other people. it leaves an emotional burden on you. its HARD to get over being abused repeatedly, as apposed to oh my sister beat me up.
about your second comment, i dont wear/use any of those labels either. so nice try lol. the only label i use is walmart. 😛 and whats your hang up with “white” and “black” people? im sure black people watch charlie sheen too, and im certain its not because HES WHITE. you have some serious anger issues about white people that you clearly need to address. what would jesus say/think knowing the way you view white people? he was white. lol. pulling a knife on someone while leaving no wounds is also less traumatizing that being beaten to a bloody, unrecognizable pulp. maybe thats why some people forgave him? also, where have you saw anyone in this post state they forgave him? you need to get over your celeb hangups. im starting to wonder if YOURE chris brown. you sure are defending him pretty hardcore.
just a final thought — CK#1 and kim, would you both be soo forgiving if chris was a child molester and molested you or your children?
oops forgot to ask, CK#1 did you defend charlie sheen the way you defend chris? did you defend any of the people in your “white” list the way youre trying to defend chris? ill bet you didnt, because they arent black.
Mandy
How do you know what Rhiana looked like, did you see her in person….the picture they showed on the news was not very clear and being a past abuse victim myself I’ve seen that kind of brusing from one hit not the beating you are saying happened, the media is known for hyping things up for a good story…
when you become a real adult (over 25)you will realize that 19 is still a child and you said it yourself “CHILDREN do bad and stupid things sometimes, things they would never consider doing as adults” plus famiy can do just as much harm as a mate their are several kids who have killed their parents and parents that have killed their children and brothers and sisters do the same. I’ve been a victim of both kinds of abuse and they were both scaring but I found a better man, there is no replacing family and that really hurts….
Good for you I applaud you not wearing those brands, if it’s because of your feelings on violence it’s good that you live by your beliefs thats a lot more than I can say for most people, you make sure you always stand up for your convictions just be sure that you aply them without bias….
I have no hang ups on black and whites,but lots of people with power do and blacks usually get the short end of the stick. Society and the media tend amplify things more when it’s a black man and I was just trying to point that out. I hate to see ANYONE in same situations be treated differntly for any reason, if it had been Charlie being treated unfairly for one incident and Chris had gotten off as a repeat offender then it would be Charlie I would be defending, I don’t even feel Rhianna should be ridiculed for her behavoir with her brother, I just don’t think it should be OK for one person to be punished for something while someone else get a pass for similar actions…..to be honest I Like Rhianna’s music, I have her album and Rude Boy is one of my favorites songs but I also like Transform You and I don’t want to see that young mans career go away for something he trying to make a mends for and is paying for…..
don’t get it twisted if Chris was to make the same mistake again I would be the first to jump off his band wagon but I truly believe that with the help he’s been getting in counseling, the disapointment from his mom (who was a victim of abuse), and the ridicule he’s recived from the public, it’s not likely he will. also I make this judgement because people that know him are standing up for him, even Rhianna’s father thinks he deserves a second chance and i just would like to think they know better than people who don’t know him….
I think Jesus would commend me because I try to live my life as a good person, I have love for everyone and try to give people the benifet of a doubt because I know what it is to be imperfect and make mistakes that you wished you could take back….for years I was condemed because I acted out when I lost my mother as a child and people said I would never be anything and it hurt…at first I got angry and acted worst because I had no support but then strangers showed me love and what it was to be a good and loving person and now I just try to spead that every opportunity I get…..
It was not my intension to offend anyone I just wanted to point out that nobody is perfect, not Chris, not Charlie, not Rhianna, not me and I’m sure not you, but if your going to be for or against something be for or against it all across the board….we are all equal and we all deserve equal treatment whatever that may be…..
with that said I do understand how you feel because as forgiving as I am (I was molested as a child and i was able to eventually forgive him) I can not forgive George Bush…LOL
and Kim for the record Jesus is not white.
CK#1: In the eyes of the public, you become an ADULT at 18 years old.
Mandee: I totally agree that there is something up with CK#1 separating black/white people. I mean, why point out skin colour? This has absolutely nothing to do with skin colour.
Also, Mandee, you said, “just as a final thought – CK#1 and kim, would you both be soo forgiving if chris was a child molester and molested you or your children?” – Someone else also agreed with kim….Jo-WAnne.
Jo-WAnne: We’ve already been over the ‘discipline of a child’ issue. There is a HUGE difference between a slap on the butt for an unruly child who needs to learn before he/she becomes an adult and ends up in prison and someone who punches in the face, bites, kicks, etc., their spouse/gf/bf. Spanking and beating are two very different things.
CK#1 on March 15, 2010 3:12 AM im sure rhianna would lie and let the world think that chris “bit, punched and choked” her if he didnt. also, ive been an adult since i turned 16, so dont try to tell me what an adult is. if youre dating and having sex with someone, youre an adult. (im not saying i was an adult because of any of that, but basically if youre in a grown up relationship, youre no longer considered a child, and the fact that both of these “children” are rich, have successful careers (or did HAHAHA CHRIS!!!) proves they arent “children”) i do stand up for my convictions and i have never been biased with them. if chris was whiter than rice id still hate him for what he did to rhianna. as a victim of abuse MYSELF i can not (and will not) tolerate or forgive someone that can hit someone, watch them cry and then hit them again. its disgusting. people with power do not decide what i like or dislike, so i could careless what they think of white or black people. i agree with “I just don��t think it should be OK for one person to be punished for something while someone else get a pass for similar actions” but, technically it isnt even like chris WAS punished. he didnt get jail time, he didnt have to go and spend his time with abuse victims so he could see the type of scars he left on this young woman. community service and probation, to me, isnt considered a sentence. i dont believe an abuser can change unless his abuse was related to his impairment. if he were to stop taking drugs or drinking alcohol then it would stop (if it was based on impairment only) but, when its simply just a hissyfit that goes bad, hes clearly not going to change. im also certain rhianna wasnt the first woman he abused (she was just the first to admit it!) and she definitely wont be the last. im glad you managed to get over your past, i know how hard things can be to let go of. i agree, no one is perfect, but also no one should be beaten by their spouse or someone that is supposed to love them. when i see my ex, i still get a sinking, disgusting, im gonna throw up feeling in my stomach. it ruins everything. should he have gotten away with the way he left me feeling? i didnt tell anyone, except the people on here, so he did get away with it. its wrong, but i didnt think anyone would believe me, thought it was my own fault, etc etc. im sure rhianna feels the same way.
nancy, yes i forgot to mention, joanne, that question was for you too if you agree that we should all love chris again. and i agree with the skin colour comment. no one was on there defending charlie sheen.
Mandy I would love to have a conversation with you in 10 to 15 years….I used to be a lot like you and I could tell you were an abuse victim, for now as it was for me at your age I understand there is no getting through to you so I give up….I do wish you the best and as for seeing your ex don’t let him keep hurting you by making you physically ill when you see him, he dosen’t care, you have moved on so for your own sanity let it go…I’m not saying that lightly I know it’s hard, it took me 10 years to get over the hurt and anger but I almost ruined the best thing that’s ever happened to me, don’t do the same for yourself.
I wish you happiness and take good care of yourself.
well, some people dont change and i doubt ill feel any different in 10 or 15 years. and youre right, he doesnt care, i know that. i cant help the way i feel when i run into him :S i wish i could ! im glad that you survived your situation. thanks for the good wishes. i wish you the same! take care.