Alec Baldwin suicidal after calling daughter
By Alexandra Heilbron on June 16, 2009 | 64 Comments
Alec Baldwin says he contemplated suicide after he left a threatening phone message for his then 11-year-old daughter, Ireland, calling her a “thoughtless little pig” who needed to have her “ass straightened out” after she had “humiliated me for the last time,” all because she didn’t answer the phone when she called. Thanks to his frightening message, he lost visitation rights and his ex-wife, Kim Basinger, hired a bodyguard for the little girl. Baldwin recently told Playboy that he considered suicide when the phone call was leaked to the public, but decided against it, saying, “If I committed suicide, they would have considered that a victory. Destroying me was their avowed goal.” Though he wrote an apology on his website at the time, Baldwin doesn’t seem to realize how destructive he’s been to his daughter. Having a parent commit suicide due in part to her not having answered her phone when he called would’ve left lifelong scars. And when he says “they would have considered that a victory,” is he talking about not just his ex-wife, but his daughter? Here’s hoping he continues to get counselling and starts being a dad, which means putting his young daughter’s interests before his own.
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It would definitely have left lifelong scars. My daughter has a best friend whose father killed himself 4 years ago. His family still blames his ex-wife and 2 children. The kids were 12 and 14 at the time! The kids are turning out pretty good, but you can definitely see that they feel guilty, and probably always will. Even his parents, the children’s own grandparents, have nothing to do with them.
“They” would have considered that a victory, oh yeah, he’s definitely laying the blame on his ex-wife and child, exactly where it DOESN’T belong. Guess we know who the “thoughtless little pig” is.
You said it, Tributegirl! Man, he’s fugly!
This is off topic but he has like 500 good pictures and you choose that one?
Doesn’t matter, jo. As far as I’m concerned, he’s fugly in all of them! LOL.
got to disagree with you Nancy
I’ve seen tons of pictures of him and he’s an ugly man, apparently inside and out. He used to be good looking about 20 years ago, but I guess his personality is showing through now. He obviously doesn’t give a damn about his daughter. Nowhere does he say that this was a bad experience for her, he’s just feeling sorry for himself. He should never have had a kid, he’s too selfish.
“Destroying me was their avowed goal” didnt he actually destroy HIMSELF? they didnt actually DO anything. he didnt need help to make himself look bad. who talks to their 11 year old that way? sure she made him mad, but dont ALL kids make their parents mad? if he was contemplating suicide, clearly he has a lot of issues that he needs to work through because who really kills their self for fighting with their kids? i think that kim went overboard when she hired body guards for her kid, i really dont believe he would have caused her any physical harm. i do understand being angry and sometimes saying the wrong things in the heat of the moment, but i still think its pretty bad when you INSULT your daughter. anyways, in other news, i had a job interview today for a home care position. he said he has a few more people to interview and then he will get back to me. 🙂
First of all, good luck mandee!!
Second, poor little Ireland. I really like Alec as an actor but as a dad he is dumb and dumber.
Agreed, lily, Ireland is the one who is losing out here.
mandee, good luck!!! Did you have any luck with Ontario Works? I think that was the place you said you were going to contact. And Gina, did you find anything yet for mandee?
no ontario works told me i have to wait until i get my first check from EI. havent gotten one yet. and thanks you 2. i was already thinking of taking a psw course but i would need the money and permission from EI by the 18th of this month and since they didnt process my claim yet, they wont give me either. maybe next year 🙁
Alec Baldwins 15 min. of fame expired years ago.He had a few so so films in his early days.The only sane Baldwin left is William and
he keeps his family life a secret,as they all should.Stephen has become a born again christian and good for him if it makes him and his family happy and together.Daniel is a
creep.An admitted presription pills addict.He
makes my skin crawl when I catch him on t.v.
shows like I’m a celebrity,get me out of here
or celeb rehab.For any father to talk to any of children in that manner is disgusting to say the least.Just another ME ME ME first actor who honestly thinks the world owes him.
Where is Denis Leary when you need him.Now there’s a man/actor who places his family first before his career.Alec should call Leary for some advice on good family relations.
man, dennis leary(leery?) is great
No doubt his comments/actions were destructive and drove a bigger wedge between them, likely irreparable damage done there. He probably senses his daughter becoming more distant/withdrawn, and perhaps not getting the acknowledgement he expects, hence the outburst..but you can’t blame an 11 yr old on how she feels.
Knowing how messy the divorce and custody battle was, I can see Kim wanting to alienate him from her daughter. You can only speculate on the influence she’s had on her regarding her feelings of him. She’d probably like nothing more than to sever all ties (but still accept those support payments).
Move on Alec..you no longer have a family, you’re just a tool now.
Mandee..yea, D.Leary is great, love his stand-up. He is so hyper on stage! You’d swear he’s on crack 🙂 But oh so funny..
LOVE Dennis Leary, Rescue Me one of my top shows, anxiously await next season…
Alec should have left this in the past, where it belongs, I am confident there is way more to this story than what they’ve printed…particularly Kim’s side…
Dennis Leary is totally hilarious. As for his “family relations” BURNSY, I wouldn’t know but I’m sure some on here would INSIST that he is a very “bad parent” and should “lose his children to Child Services” because he curses and swears worse than “a trucker”. And as someone on here once said “that would pour over into his home life”.
LMAO…what a crock! Child Services would have burst at the seams long ago!!
Leary’s cursing and swearing is part of his “character” on both tv shows and stage act….
In “real life,” observing him conduct himself in interviews, etc., he is courteous, well spoken and educated, I for one think he comes across as an excellent parent…
who said that Leary’s stage act would pour over into his home life?
Oh come on Jo-Anne! YOU said to me (and to lily) on this website, that my swearing would obviously pour over into my home life and reflect to my children and that makes me a “bad parent”….when lily told you that what is said on Tribute has nothing to do with my or anyone else’s parenting. So, if Dennis Leary is cursing his head off WAY WORSE that I ever could (but he is funny as hell doing so :D), wouldn’t you say that that would “pour over” into his home life and reflect on his children and his parenting skills? If not….you are a HYPOCRITE!
I believe my explanation was correctly worded, Nancy, in fact it’s crystal clear, however the fact you are having trouble “deciphering” it is in no way a surprise to me…
There’s no difference. You’re a hypocrite!
In “real life” he curses and swears….ALOT!!
Alec Baldwin should NOT have said that. Truthfully, if someone wants to commit suicide, that person WILL do it, so he thought about it, didn’t attempt it? So was it more of a “wish I were dead moment?” and who hasn’t had those at some point in their life? That is not a suicide wish. What he is doing is trying to shift to the victim, which he is clearly not. Poor Alec…”woe is me”. well it is a shame but bullying doesn’t only happen in the schools, it happens within our own families and homes. I think it is pathetic he would say that, to try to make anyone feel bad for him. He is another with serius anger issues, needs help and should be kept either from his dauther or supervised visitation. But she is 11, if she doesn’t want to see him, he should respect that. And he should work on proving he loves and respects her and has changed, even if she rejects him a million times.
Mandee, good luck on the job. Never heard of a bitter belly before, lol
Tributegirl, hope your daughter’s friends will be okay in the long term. Not a good thing at all.
Nancy, I’ve been unable to make comments lately, but missed the spunkiness…lol (is that even a word? NM, don’t answer that)
I know I shouldn’t get into this but then I realized I’m online with a fake screen name talking to people I don’t know so I’m gonna say whatever the f-k comes to my mind
Nancy I don’t quite understand the reason for holding posts that people made days/weeks/months FREAKIN MONTHS ago against them and then fight about them on different subjects not meaning to attack and maybe I missed something but I don’t quite understand your motives
Oh and Carol I disagree about your comment about people who want to commit suicide will do it I believe that a person can be suicidal but is strong enough to pull through(When I mean strong enough I mean be able to try find reasons to love on) or that person is to scared to go through but just my opinion you could be right and I could be wrong and vica versa
(oh and I agree with you he is not the victim in this I do not feel sorry for him at all)
Thanks, Carol, and sorry, but I had to LMAO when you said “bitter belly”, cause that’s not quite what mandee said!
mandee, personally I don’t really think it’s fair to say Nancy is a bad person, and Dennis Leary isn’t. After all, none of us on here really know either one of them!
And I’d be right on those EI people, they’d be hearing from me at least once a day, because to me, what they are doing to you is just not satisfactory.
Jo: BURNSY brought up Dennis Leary’s “family relations”…mandee and Jo-Anne jumped right in there about how he’s such a great guy. Well, I think he is really funny too and I have nothing against him but you have to admit, he really does curse his head off. SO….I was just wondering if Jo-Anne had the same opinion that people with foul mouths make “bad parents” because their language outside of the home “would pour over” into their home life or if she would be a hypocrite because she is only a b!tch to me. The latter obviously proves to be true!! So that was the reason, jo.
ok fair Nancy
Btw, Kim hiring a bodyguard for her over this is a joke. What’s he gonna do? Come over and beat her? All she’s doing is playing up to the drama, clearly overreacting. Perhaps to give the media and the public a worse impression of him.
haha note!!!!!!!
haha now!!!!
maybe I should use spellcheck like everyone else on here? not…
YOU don’t have to correct me at all. People can read for themselves. I asked you a question on this article in which your reply was VERY hypocritical….as USUAL!!! 😛
actually, I thought it particularly funny…as USUAL!!!
Funny? The only thing “funny” about you is…well, I better not use such “foul language” on Tribute.
demigod 10:42 I totally agree. Kim isn’t any better of a parent than he is for trying to make a child fear her own father. If she was really concerned about her daughter’s welfare, she’d be looking for a way to help her resolve the situation with her admittedly idiotic dad. Insted, it sounds like Kim is just using this sad ugly event as a way to twist the knife into her ex.
I think it is extreme that she hired a bodyguard, but you don’t know how that child is feeling and maybe there is more to it, this is her dad, maybe he is more threatening than we know.
And Jo, that’s fine you disagree, I know some pull through, but he was not serious, when someone is serious, they do more than say “I was going to kill myself” there is much more to it, and if someone is serious, or sick, they will do it, and if that person sees enough light, then great, but if the light dims and they go back to where they were, it’s not a good thing
Carol, you are wrong. It is well documented that many people who talk about commiting suicide eventually go through with it. In fact, talking about it is considered a key warning sign that is NEVER supposed to be ignored. Dismissing someone as not “serious” about killing themselves because they did not “do more than say I was going to kill myself” proves you know absolutly nothing about this subject.
In fact, 14 yr old Jo (6:35)is MUCH better informed.
wtf? why is my 7:14 comment being moderated???
um, my 7:14 comment is pretty well a public service announcement…still don’t get the problem…
lmao lily. well, thats what happens usually once the fighting starts. they check all messages and once it gets out of hand (like on the one article) they close it for comments.
I dunno mandee; I wonder if they have certain words that trigger the moderation (like k-lling)? I really was trying to make an important point, not fighting at all.
Exactly, and it’s obviously not closed off if we can still post.
Let’s experiment…I’ll try writing a few of the words you used, lily.
“killing” “kill” “suicide”
Nope, didn’t await at all.
Good idea, Nancy, but now I’m really mistified about how they decide to moderate. Wtf is wrong with my post up there?!!
Since it eventually made it up, why are you going on and on about it? There was something that put it into moderation, once the mods found out and saw there was nothing wrong with it, they put it up. What’s the big deal?
I don’t know, lily, I have no idea how they decide what to moderate, some comments have words you would think would be a trigger, spelled right out, but they get through just fine, others like yours above, get moderated and no one knows why. Would be kind of nice if they would explain it a bit to everyone so we could maybe know what to watch for in our comments.
Lily, you can say you disagree, but don’t say I’m wrong…just shows you are narrow minded. I’m sure there are numerous studies on this and the one you read is not necessarily correct.
I think it was a petty plea for people to forgive him. That’s my opinion. I don’t think he was serious…that’s my opinion.
You’re opinion…well, who knows because all you do is tell people the way it is….Sounds like you are the most knowledgeable person on here.
Anyway, if you want to debate, fine. If you want to disagree, fine. But please be more adult about about.
I had a friend (note “had”) who called me when we were teens, we did not live within close proximity, and she called me to say she took a bunch of pills, she wasn’t serious, she didn’t do anything major, just a plea call because her boyfriend left her. I ended up worse off because it really was emotionally hard on me, not knowing what to do, I tried to call back to tell her mom, couldn’t get through, told my mom…anyway, long story short, she didn’t do anything major, she was fine, and I was the one who ended up a wreck because of it. So you do have to sift through who is serious and who is not, and you can’t blame yourself if you are wrong, because if someone is serious, as I said, they will do it.
I agree with that Carol. I’ve been in that situation too. I believe that if someone truly wants to take their own life, they will just do it, they won’t tell anyone, they will seclude themselves because they won’t want anyone to intervene. I believe that they feel so bad about their current situation, worthless. The ones who call out for help and let others know what they did or are about to do, truly do not wish to die. I think they just want help, for someone to come to them and talk to them and make their feeling of worthlessness go away and for a certain majority, it’s just for attention.
I’m with lily on this one, Carol…the time you spend “sifting” through the “intentions” of a suicidal person, you may just run out of time…
p.s. I thought I was “the most knowledgeable person on here”
I’m crushed….
hahaha
lol Jo-Anne!
Also, thanks for your VERY thought-provoking comment. I’m sorry Carol is so offended at my response but this one isn’t just my opinion. If people want to second guess every suicidal comment just in case they waste a few minutes of there precious time, I think they are incredibly selfish and shallow. And I should know cause I AM apparently “the most knowledgeable person on here”!!!
Nancy, I get what your saying but I don’t think “just for attention” covers it. Many people don’t jump to that sudden desperate action in one day, they become sadder and increasingly desperate as there lives seem more and more hopeless. Its at a time during that period that some people comment aloud on there feelings of despair. The “attention” they get could make the difference between them changing there minds and having hope (“Hey, someone really does care about me”) or going ahead and ending it all (“No one even knows I’m alive”).
Sure, some people talk about it and are just being drama queens. But who has mindreading abilities and can tell the “serious” ones apart? Is it really worth dismissing all those possible chances to save a life because your annoyed that someone bugged you for nothing at some point?
Oh yeah, Marion: whatever.
lily on June 20, 2009 1:14 PM
Wait a minute.. I thought I was regarded as such 🙂
maybe Tribute should do a poll to settle this question??? ha ha ha
lol dg and Jo
I’d win….hands down! 😛
maybe they should poll it. A family member was dating a guy in the 70’s and he she broke up with him and he threatened to commit suicide, was going to take pills. He even was dumb enough to show them to her, she told him he’d be pretty healthy once he downed those vitamins, what an idiot, it was a pity party he made for himself. And if he was serious, should it really be on her shoulders? NOPE!
I watched Oprah a couple months ago and there was a mother on whose daughter took her life. She had no signs of suicide, but was, unfortunately, abused by an online stalker. The mother talked of the day her daughter took her life, she said that her daughter came into the parents bedroom (up to this point the daughter had been very stressed and the parents knew at this point what had happened, charges had been laid, etc) but this particular day, the daughter was calm, somewhat peaceful, and the mother said that day she and her husband came home from Church to find their daughter dead in her bedroom. She said she learned after the fact that there is a Euphoria a lot of times, people who are at peace with their decision. The woman really touched me. But she said there was no sign of the predator until after it happened, and no sign of suicide until it was too late.
So, Lily, like I say, there are those who are serious, those who aren’t, the parents and the daughter were doing the right things, but the daughter was serious, made her choice. But this man, I do not feel he should be now or ever (based on the commentary we have received on Tribute) on suicide watch. I do believe that you have to look at the person, some are NOT serious, they are just pathetic and looking for sympathy, and like Nancy said, maybe even help.
As a teenager, many years ago, there were times I wished I was dead, but at the same time, never thought suicide. It’s a fine line and I’m sure there are many studies on this. So you can be partially right, but I don’t believe you are 100% on this matter.
I appreciate your long and thoughtful reply Carol. Lets just agree to disagree on this one. Sorry I resorted to name calling. Its a very personal subject for me.
Carol, the poll I was (I thought quite clearly) referring to was the “most knowledgeable person” poll…
for Heaven’s sake, what were you thinking – a suicide poll?
Maybe she was thinking that, it would be more interesting than a “most knowledgeable person” poll!
Actually, I would win the “most honest & loveable person” poll! The “most knowledgeable person” poll would be pretty hard to decide between a few on here, hahaha…I’d probably have to pick mandee for that one though! LMFAO!! With Jo-Anne in a very close 2nd place.
I’d vote for ya, Nance, as most honest and loveable, but you’d have to change your name to get any more votes than my one!
Idk…maybe, I think there may be a few out there who’d spot me a vote, LOL. Jo-Anne would probably vote for me about 300 times a day! Thanks for your vote though, Tributegirl. Oh, and since mandee has been gone for a few days, I’d have to vote Jo-Anne as most knowledgeable with demigod in a close second spot, hahahahaha!!!
Actually, I’m getting the impression that miss smartie pants mandee hasn’t left us at all…I think she just changed her name. BIG SURPRISE THERE, HUH? NOTICE MY CAPITAL LETTERS? Hahaha!
haha u r so rite!