Michael Jackson dead at 50
By A A on June 25, 2009 | 125 Comments
Michael Jackson, The King of Pop, passed away at the age of 50 in Los Angeles today. Shortly after receiving a 911 call from Jackson’s rented mansion in Holmby Hills, paramedics responded to the scene and found Jackson was not breathing and had no pulse. Though emergency responders attempted to resuscitate him, he was unresponsive. According to his brother, Jermaine Jackson, Michael collapsed in his home shortly before 12:30, suffering from cardiac arrest. He was pronounced dead at 2:26 p.m. Pacific time at UCLA Medical Center. The cause of death is unknown, but the L.A. County Coroner’s Office said an autopsy would probably performed Friday; results are expected in the afternoon. Michael is survived by his three children — Michael Joseph Jackson, Jr., 12, Paris Michael Katherine Jackson, 11, and seven-year-old Prince “Blanket” Michael Jackson II. Click here to see our Michael Jackson tribute.
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Wonder if his face is melting in hell right now?
!!!!! OMG!!!
What a day this has been!!
HE DIDNT DIE!!!!! dont report stuff you dont know!!! crap man!! he’s still in the hospital and no one knows anything so why do you TRIBUTE report something that no one knows??? im so pissed off right now i love michael jackson and you bast**ds gave me a heart attack!!!
Please stick to the facts when reporting information. Information like this can be harmful! Unless you know for sure stop speculating.
Thanks!
STEV-0 your lack of intelligence and compassion has me lost for words
R.I.P. MJ
and whatever yeah he’s dead its all over the web and s**t
sad sad sad
oh I forgot to mention
OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!
today really sucks to be a icon
All the controversy aside, MJ was a musical genius and he will be dearly missed.
RIP
Awe, that’s so sad 🙁
and to some of you, may I suggest for you to grow the hell up?
=)
Nancy, that’s really uncalled for.
O M F, I can’t believe this! Holy crap!
RIP Michael, your music will live on.
I wonder what will happen with the children now? I remember at one point the mother of the first two, who gave them to him as “gifts”, wanted them back, I wonder if she will try, thus splitting them from the third child.
RIP micheal jackson
you were a ICON ! 🙁
Well, that last kid, a couple years ago, I didn’t believe a single word he or his mother said, I think she was just digging for gold, and coaching her son, apparently she did that with some other stars as well but got caught. I think that case was a total set up, but I think the others were genuine.
Yes, tg, I thought that last one was a total fake too. Unfortunatly, there are lots of weasles out there trying to scam easy money whenever they can. And boy, this type of blackmail is about as sordid as it gets. However, I saw a show( 60 Minutes?) on one case that had the investigating officer talking at length about the specific details that led to charges against MJ. It was really sickening.
And his money and fame was intimidating towards these parents. I mean, they are not rich and paying the legal fees was bankrupting them. His lawyers were dragging it out longer and longer in hopes the parents would go broke and be forced to drop the case.
Your right, Nancy. That whole mess was disgusting in more ways then one.
Wow…you make the guy sound like Hitler for s**t sakes!
What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty???
Geeze, some of you sounded like you sat on the friggen jury! I love how everything you bring up, regardless of how much you THINK it may be truth, is nothing more than speculation and gossip! YOU WERENT THERE. GET OVER YOURSELF!
Let the guy rest in peace. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but in your case – KEEP IT TO YOURSELF!
Lets hope you dont receive the same disgusting lack of respect when its your time to go!
agree, Bubbles…well said, you show “class” amongst the gutter here….
I never believed that he molested anyone – he had kid actors over to Neverland frequently, for example, Macauley Culkin and Corey Feldman, and they say he never touched them. If he was a pedophile, he would’ve molested them as well, pedophiles cannot help themselves. And his own kids – pedophiles often have kids so they can molest them. So if you want to talk this BS about him, why don’t you wait and see what his own kids have to say, haters? The first kid who claimed he molested him got a payout – when the second blood sucking family showed up with their lies and their hands out for Michael’s money, he knew he had to finally defend himself and go to court. He won the case, and it looked like wasn’t without consequence to his health — and it looks like now it cost him an early death. Michael was a unique individual, a child who never grew up, thanks mostly to being forced into the limelight at age 6. He had a great career, not much of a personal life, and what he did have was sullied by dishonest people pimping out their kids so they could get their hands on his money. And as it turns out, it was a short, and probably very sad, life.
When i heard the sad news that michael jackson dead i can’t believe it the pop icon dead this afternoon of cardiac arrest still can’t believe that he passed away at only 50 years old. I like some of his songs we will miss you Michael Jackson Rest In Peace. First the death of Michael Jackson and Now The Death of Another Icon Farrah Fawcett had dead this morning at 9:28 AM after a long time battle with cancer we will miss both of you so much REST IN PEACE
It’s a sad day for Hollywood – two big stars in one day, neither from old age.
Michael: KEEP YOUR OPINION TO YOURSELF!! I’ll give my opinion when I damn well please!
Jo-Anne: How original!
Wow Nancy – Did I specifically say you needed to keep your opinion to yourself? I dont recall naming anyone in particular….but… did we miss the point a bit? (although im going to take a wild guess that you make friends all of the time, seeing how you have taken a jab at everyone who has called you out on acting like an insensitive, immature prick)
Seems at least some of the other posters arent quite as immature and disrespectful..just in it for some distasteful humour…yet you seem to carry on…hmmm
Im not sure whether you are a child, or just a poor excuse who acts like one.
Maybe thats why you hate poor MJ so much….
And BTW – by telling me to keep my opinion to myself, doesnt that make you the biggest hipocrite possible on this blog?? haha – you must be one of those brilliant people that just amazes those around you!
Oh God – lets just be clear that was sarcasm before you go stroking your ego! 🙂
Jo-Anne: My sentiments exactly!
MJ – RIP
yeah, its a sad day.
Even MJ’s biggest accusers said the worse thing he did was a little grabbie-grabbie under the covers, which is a crime, but that was the extent of it. I just think he was odd, and preferred the company of kids over adults. Seemed like he missed out on a normal childhood.
demigod, are you trivializing child molestation? “A little grabbie-grabbie”?? I respect much of what you have to say but this turns my stomach. Yes, everyone is entitled to there own opinion about whether or not MJ is actually guilty but I don’t think everyone is entitled to an opinion about whether or not sexual abuse of children merely makes one “odd”. Calling it a crime followed immediately by “but that was the extent of it” is beyond my comprehension. And to all those people who think we’re not respecting MJ, your certainly right about me. I think child abuse in any form whatsoever is evil.
Everyone has bad choices and maybe the best wasn’t to have kids over especially without their parents, but what was done is done and as they couldn’t prove it as such then so be it…soo sad for his kids…no matter what he was a awesome singer and all celebrities have there quirks if not for plastic surgery then for drinking and partying … RIP Micheal Jackson
thanks Michael, yes, so true, so obviously true…
So sad that these two had to pass away but that is life. We are all here to live for God and to worship Him if we so choose but woa to those who turn their back on Him and not accept His only son as their saviour because now they are alone when they stand before God for judgement and that’s not a good thought. God would’ve forgiven their sin if they had asked Him to. I can only hope that that’s what they both did before they passed away or it’s too late now. There is no RIP if you die without Jesus Christ as your saviour.
I SEEM TO REMEMBER A SAYING.LET THOSE WHO ARE WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE.RIP MJ.GOD BLESS HIS CHILDREN AND HIS FAMILY.LET THEM GREAVE IN PEACE.
RIP to the King of Pop
the king is dead, long live the king
R.I.P. Michael! You have left us far too young. You were a musical genious and I hope and pray that people will remember you that way – especially for your children’s sake!
Lily, not trivializing. From my understanding he was accused of fondling in playfully grabbing under the sheets. Like kids would play. That would no doubt be considered molestation if done by an adult. I just think he is odd, and uses poor judgement, like dangling his kid over the balcony railing.
Gyspy and Steve I too seem to remember a saying
“thou who is atheist don’t give a crap about thou stupid bible verses that were written in 20 years ago”
oh and Steve I’m not were to worship god I’m here to roll my eyes whenever I hear that and write things on the internet
Oh I mean Gypsy
RIP, Whatever the world thought of you and how you are judged is not up to me or the commentors above. He left a legacy in the Entertainment world you were one of a kind.My condolences to the Jackson family and to his children.
MJ I never really liked you, I dident care much for your music(except thriller), and I thought that you were not as good as people made you out to be. But dame it, I respected you. You made some bad choices in life, But who dosent. You will be missed in this world greatly, by many. RIP MJ.
All the controversy aside, Michael Jackson was a musical genius. He changed the face music therefore making it colour blind. His contribution to music has gone down in history and that is something that can never be denied. I will miss his awesome talent.
I see your point, dg. Don’t agree, but I do understand your opinion. Glad you weren’t making light of a horrible subject. I don’t think we’re going to come to any consensus on a fitting eulogy, somehow…
Nobody could dance like you, Michael. You outdanced them all. You can moonwalk in Heaven and smile upon your children down below. You have left us a lasting legacy of timeless masterpieces, a veritable treasury of your creative genius. Now, the blaspheming bullies can, hopefully, leave you alone.
I really liked Michael Jackson, always felt like he was a lost child or something, always actually felt bad for him. And I always loved his music. All that being said though, after the first allegations of molestation surfaced, I think that put a permanent question mark above his head, and there’s no way in h*ll my children would have ever gone to Neverland. Which makes me wonder why these other parents did let their children go there, after the first allegations.
He was truly a musical icon, and I still find it hard to believe that he’s actually gone.
Leave him alone, he is dead allready.His children do not have to bare his past for their lives – they need to have time to think about their lives.Right ow they are young, scared and alone……..
If you can’t be adult about this then shut up. Think before you say something that his children could see or hear. No matter what he was their only parent, righ or wrong – They need our support now more than ever.
Keep it clean folks….
RIP King of Pop! I have always believed it is wrong to speak ill of the dead, no matter what your personal opinion is. let it go. the entertainment world has lost 3 greats this week. may they all now be at peace.
THIS IS REALLY SAD ABOUT MICHAEL JACKSON DYING, HE WILL BE A LEGEND IN POP MUSIC, I GREW UP WITH HIS MUSIC AND EVEN MY DAUGHTER NOW LISTENED TO IT AND SHE IS ONLY 10 YEARS OLD– SO WHATEVER HAPPENED TO GIVE HIM A BAD NAME HE WAS LOVED BY MANY AND WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED BY MANY BECAUSE BESIDES BEING WHAT YOU ALL WROTE ABOUT, HE WAS HUMAN AND HE HAD TALENT AND HE GREW UP WITH PROBLEMS LIKE ALL OF US, SO LETS RESPECT HIS CHILDREN WHO HAVE TO READ THESE THINGS BEING SAID ABOUT THEIR FATHER, THEY ARE GREIVING NOW SO IS HE FAMILY.
GOD BLESS YOU MICHAEL, REST IN PEACE
rip michael jackson ,you were an amazing artist and a role model too ,you will be sadly missed but not forgotten!!!my blessings go out to his family ,god bless them!!
I really didnt follow the news when he was going to court because personally I dont think all the evidence concerning celebs is true. Its none of my business any way. As far as his music goes he was definitely an inspiration to many. He was the first person to really perform a show. He is a legend. Although he didnt give anything new over the past fifteen years I will still miss him he influenced my choreography style. He was and will always be the king of pop
It is a shock, but life goes on. RIP.
So if your kid sleeps with a teddy bear, is he a bear molester, Nancy? The term sleep with doesn’t always have a dirty connotation and when he said it, he didn’t mean it like the way you would mean it if you said you sleep with someone, because otherwise he wouldn’t have been stupid enough to say it on national television. He was a child in a grown man’s body, that was clear to anyone who watched that special.
Well people, some things never change. Nancy (the English professor is still correcting everyone’s spelling and grammer), and the poor thing is still tone deaf. Just ask her who’s music she likes.
She also likes to try and convict people in her own personal courtroom…
As for Michael, I believe in my heart he would never ever harm a child. He was the victim of lazy, greedy opportunists who robbed the world of music we can only imagine. If he had not been wrongly accused he would have continued to make amazing music. He did exactly what most of us would have done in 1993 when he settled the first accusation out of court. Anyone with money would just want the problem to go away rather than subject themselves to the agony of going to court. The second accusation came from a mother who exploited her son’s illness and Michael was not her first victim. I hope shes proud of what she did. No way Michael would hurt a child suffering from leukemia, or any other one for that matter.
Michael, you were taken from us too soon, probably from Doctors who unethically gave you medications, just like Anna Nicole an Heath Ledger. These “doctors” need to be held accountable for their unethical behaviour.
I hope your children will be ok. They lost their dad far too soon and the world lost a much loved musical genious. My thoughts also go out to your family at this very difficult time, they lost a son and a brother and will have a very hard road in the months ahead.
Of course the same media who crucified him in the past is once again exploiting him for their own purposes.
Well Nancy, hope the spelling meets with your approval, but you can keep your ignorant opinion to yourself. You should get out more hun…
Michael Jackson,
You will be missed. May you rest in peace in a better place; love always
gotta love the “own personal courtroom”…thanks for my morning laugh with my java…
To Mjj
Wherever you are now I want to say to you
there’s no other like you.
I LOVE YOU
on a positive note….welcome aboard BM…
STEVE-O…YOU ARE AN ASS!!! That is very disrepectful!! He was an awesome singer, a great father and a all-in-all good guy! He was loved by all and will be missed by the same!! Rest in Peace beloved Michael!! A life cut short WAY tooo soon!!! Love you!
i wonder at what point it became ok to make fun of the dead, insult other people, pretend youre better than everyone, accuse people of things that were neither said nor done, etc? i wonder at what point tribute is going to realize that banning someone for using multiple names but not banning someone from being such an inconsiderate bully is just plain wrong? i never cared for michael jackson, never liked his music, never paid attention to his life, never listened to anything proving or disproving him being a child molester, but what im thinking is this : if you are a child molester, i highly doubt you would stop at a little grabbing. if he really was as evil as everyone is portraying him, dont you think there would have been PHYSICAL EVIDENCE??? i have never heard of a child molester not doing more than touching. its pretty convenient if you ask me, no bruises, no marks, no nothing. if MJ really is a child trapped in a grown mans body, perhaps he has autism. which would explain why he wanted to play with children (in a non sexual way of course). also, i do see controversy with the whole him sleeping in the same bed as children, but if he had some mental illness that caused him to be mentally younger than he physically is, it makes sense that he would want to sleep in a bed with what he assumed was his friends. RIP michael.
Mandee…this site is for people to give their opinions on these articles and the people in them. There is nothing wrong with anyone believing that Michael Jackson is a child molester just as there is nothing wrong with others opinions that he is not one. People need to stop trying to dictate to others what they should think! If Tribute were to “ban” all the inconsiderate bullies on here…there wouldn’t be anyone left to have an opinion, would there? I gave MY OPINION on this topic and I was the one who was jumped on because of it…AGAIN! Some people don’t like the fact that people like myself and Steve-O and lily have different opinions from them. Well…get used to it!
Nancy – honestly…I really think you need some help.
You are right, you are entitled to your own opinion..HOWEVER..that IS NOT the same as being entitled to slander people as you freely choose, especially with unsubstantiated claims. You sound like the ignorant fools who deny the Holocaust even existed! Don’t just make up “proof” to convince yourself he is a child molester. I have news for you…if he was..THE COURTS WOULD HAVE DECIDED!
You know, im going to take a wild guess that you are quick to judge. So does that mean if you see an old man sitting on a bench in a park near a playground, he is a child molester? Oh but come on, he is all by himself…why did he have to come and sit on that bench near all the little children? There must be something evil going on there!
If you have an opinion..that’s great..but when you begin offending other people and putting other people down who have just passed away for the sake of “your opinion”…that’s when you need to take a long look in the mirror.
I mean..honestly…you have had 16 “comments” already. Talk about being a friggen narcissist! Does everything have to be about you??
ALSO – that was the entire point of my last comment…i NEVER named any names, but you still decided that my comments were directed at you. Notice how NO ONE ELSE who made such disgusting remarks before my first comment decided to respond?? just you…..
AND BTW – you are a hypocrite! If you become so angry with my remark to “KEEP IT TO YOURSELF” because you think everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and your response to me is “KEEP YOUR OPINION TO YOURSELF!! I��ll give my opinion when I damn well please!”…YES…THAT IS HYPOCRITICAL!!
Here – go pick my spelling apart..i really dont care..you seem to have much more free time than the rest of us anyways!
Question: anyone on here think OJ Simpson killed his wife and her friend?
Nancy on June 27, 2009 4:12 PM i never said that people shouldnt believe that he was a child molester. i was saying what MY OPINION on the article was. i dont know for sure, neither does anyone on this site posting comments. the only people that can be 100% sure are michael jackson himself, and the kids that accused him. what i mean by bullying, i meant when you constantly fight about EVERYTHING. and i think the main reason people wanted to fight with you was because you are already making jokes about someone that just died.
tributegirl, i dont remember the trial or any evidence to support or not support weather or not oj killed his wife and her friend. i was too young back then to even know what was going on or care. also, like i said, if he had autism and didnt admit it that would explain why he wanted to hang out with kids. autistic people are mentally younger than they are physically, so until there is physical PROOF, i dont see how he could have molested them.
If Tribute were to ban all the inconsiderate bullies on here, Nance…well you’d have lots of time on your hands…say bye-bye
lol @ your 6:56 comment 😛
WOW CANT BELIEVE YOU DIED BIG SHOCKER HUGE FAN LUV RYLIE
I’m not asking about evidence or anything in the OJ trial, I’m asking if people really believed that he did it or not. I remember at the time people were outraged, and if I ask anyone now I still hear the same thing, yes, most people seem to believe that OJ did definitely kill his wife and her friend, so the comment from above…..”Don��t just make up �proof�� to convince yourself he is a child molester. I have news for you��if he was..THE COURTS WOULD HAVE DECIDED!”…..is invalid, the courts sometimes make mistakes.
I have no idea how autism came into this story line, I know quite a bit about autism and from the knowledge I have, I have never seen anything to suggest Michael had autism, or any related disorders. I think that he was someone who was refused a childhood and that affected him deeply for the rest of his life. I think that’s why he preferred to hang out with kids. “autistic people are mentally younger than they are physically”, yes, and it’s the “physical” that can be a problem, because their bodies are developing normally, and since they haven’t developed as much mentally they are more likely to not be able to control their urges.
And speaking of, I think a lot of people on here are young mentally, because it’s the same old fight, over and over and over again. When are you guys going to try to see things from someone else’s perspective?
tg, I just posted a comment about OJ on the Manson site, then came here and read yours… guess we both jumped to that idea when on the topic of “biggest travesties in the history of courtroom verdicts”.
Why are people so hysterical here about the fact that some of us think MJ was guilty? Anyone who dares disagree with the apparent majority opinion is being branded as gutter trash, bullies who pick on the dead, etc.
The shrieking rants in favour of shutting down all other opinions remind me strongly of the time just after the US invaded Iraq. Anyone who disagreed with Bush’s decision was absolutely vilified You were not allowed to have a different opinion on this subject without being branded pro-terrorism. Later, when the facts came out about the web of lies Bush based that decision on, suddenly everyone thought he was horrible and it was okay to detest him.
People who go with a mob mentality are like stupid sheep… they bleat in unison and can’t bear a discordant note.
PS I watched the entire OJ trial and am utterly, totally convinced that he was guilty of both heinous murders. What do you think?
tg and lily – comparing a murder trial where the hard evidence would have been A DEAD BODY to an accusation of molestation isnt really the same thing. Especially considering some of the individuals involved in MJs trials had tried the same BS on other celebs for a profit! You are basically comparing a situation that may probably had a lack of evidence to one where it would have clearly been a “he said/she said” situation when one decides whom has the story that best fits. There never was any “hard evidence”, just a version of events from both sides. Each of the involved had their version of events presented and the court system delivered an outcome. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. Its not whether they are always right, but rather that gossip and personal feelings should never outweigh the entire legal system and its ability to perform.
Unfortunately for your comments on OJ, a majority’s feelings and/or beliefs are also irrelevant. Over a billion people believe that the earth was created in 6 days, yet these same people drive around in cars which are powered by fossil fuels. Such a contradiction is often explained away, but you know what, that doesnt make it right OR wrong.
I really dont care whether people feel MJ is a child molestor or not, but rather, I dont see this as the place for comments like “Ahhh��little boys are rejoicing everywhere��chanting �Freedom at last! We live in fear no more!��”. Because lets face it, that isnt an opinion, its a sad attempt to grab attention when one sinks to such a low.
I think where some posters may have been sidetracked is in the fact that some of us dont really care what your opinion is if it is going to be so negative, but rather just show respect when a person has just passed. Some people here were huge fans of him, and to show such disrepect for nothing more than a grab at some extra attention is pretty sad. If you hate a co-worker and he dies tomorrow, it doesnt mean you go an order the party hats!
I myself am not a fan of several celebs, but I certainly wont be jumping on the opportunity to crack a distasteful joke should they pass anytime soon.
The main problem in this blog is that some people have no shame and need to be told when they have crossed the line.
To be honest – I dont really think MJ was all there. The problem with most “child celebrities” is that they dont actually experience childhood – perhaps a reason why many end up with issues in the early parts of their lives, such as heavy addictions. Unfortunately for Michael, this probably affected him as well and he may have made some bad decisions later in life. HOWEVER, only he knows the truth and there really is no good to come from anything but leaving it at that.
And BTW – if you haven’t noticed, these comments are actually fairly divided, so there are mobs on both sides.
So lily, say it with me – BAAHH! 🙂
mandee I was not quoting you, I was just trying to summarize the type of name calling being used.
michael you make many good points. However, I do not agree that dying entitles anyone to respect–or any different opinions at all compared to how you viewed them in life.
Our western culture has a lot of superstitions and hang-ups about death. I think that translates into this widespread discomfort with saying anything negative about someone who died. “Don’t speak ill of the dead” never made any sense at all to me because if you “spoke ill” of someone when they were alive, why would you change? Wouldn’t that make you a hypocrite?
Thats just how I feel. I’m not saying any of you need to agree but you can’t stop me from expressing my own opinions either.
Nancy 4:12 Thats exactly how I feel.
wow, Michael…I had just posted on the Manson storyline how I feel OJ/MJ scenarios are far from similar…and now I read your post, have to say I think you are right on the money here…
lily, I think you are the one “branding” the whole lot of us who feel disagreement with the trashy remarks pouring forth here re Jackson’s being a child molester…yes, we disagree completely with what we feel are inappropriate vulgar comments at this time of MJ’s death. And I, for one, have no shame in saying again I feel those heavy handed comments are uncalled for and in bad taste…
your mob mentality comment could just as easily be turned on yourself for your following the Burn Him at the Stake Sheep Pack…
there will always be two strong sides, those who agree and those who disagree and a third of perhaps fence sitters/unsure…so what??
oh, and a fourth comprised of moondog alone…invalid
Have to disagree, Jo. People posting negative comments about MJ were mostly concentrating their negativity on MJ himself, not the other people who disagreed. Its the people like you insisting that “those heavy handed comments are uncalled for and in bad taste” that makes you a mob. You aren’t satisfied with expressing your own opinions–you want to squelch all opposing views with insults and put downs. “So what??” is right–why don’t you follow your own advice and respect everyone’s right to an opinion…including moondog.
tks lily she likes 2 call others invalid
well she should look in the mirror for 1ce!
totally respect everyone’s right to an opinion, lily, just don’t agree with them…what it is you are finding so mind boggling about this?
your “shrieking rant” on others being insulting here…which post of yours shall I refer to wherein you resorted to insults??? Here, you choose, take your pick…
WORLD HAS MISSED A GOOD DANCER
are you referring to my moondog jab re respect?
hopefully not…
cause a person who posts “mandee i see ur still an idjit” hardly commands my respect…
so, who did I not respect in my 8:59 post?
p.s. I surely respect everyone’s RIGHT to an opinion…I just don’t respect YOU…
I don’t care if you respect me or not Jo-Anne, but you have never respected MY OPINION or the opinion of a few others on here either…how about lily? Lily, do you feel that Jo-Anne “respects your opinion”? Tributegirl (sorry to bring you in here) do you feel Jo-Anne respects your opinion?
call me crazy, Nance, but it’s hard to respect the opinion of someone who refers to you as “go fetch you f’ing mutt”…
like I said, call me crazy…
mandee on June 28, 2009 12:30 AM
“tributegirl, what �same old fight��??? im not fighting with anyone, im merely stating my opinion. everyone else is fighting with nancy.”
Yes, actually you are contributing greatly to the fight.
“and me saying maybe hes autistic, i have every right to wonder. i stated that i never bothered with anything that ever had to do with michael jackson, so how does that mean im fighting because im saying i wonder if hes autistic?”
Yeah, you have every right to wonder, I never said you don’t. And I never said you were fighting because you wonder if he had autism, you’re just fighting for the sake of fighting.
“and the oj thing is the dumbest argument i have ever heard.”
well, that’s because:
“i dont remember the trial or any evidence to support or not support weather or not oj killed his wife and her friend. i was too young back then to even know what was going on or care.”
You totally missed the point of my question, it didn’t have anything to do with either specific situation, a few people had said that the courts are never wrong, so I asked if they believed OJ killed his wife, my point being if they DO believe OJ killed his wife and her friend, then they must believe that the courts ARE sometimes wrong.
When I asked the OJ question, I guess I meant it for people who DO know the situation, not for people that have no idea about it. Guess you thought like everything else, it was meant for you.
what is even more curious (insincere) is how you “respond” to Nancy, all the while your real intention for myself and mandee to read it…
if you want to address me, go for it, don’t hide behind such childish games…
for the record, the coattail thing…still happening
p.s. I think your kettle just whistled, t.g….
lily on June 28, 2009 10:31 AM i think the reason this turned to a “schoolyard squabble” was because of the heartless jokes made at the expense of someone that just died. molester or not, jokes about the dead are far from funny or classy.
Jo-Anne on June 28, 2009 12:20 PM thanks
Nancy on June 28, 2009 12:36 PM my comments were NOT in ANY WAY “ONLY” directed at you. i was merely giving points on how he may be proven innocent in this whole “molester not molester” debate. once again, i didnt pick a side so its not like you can accuse me of being AGAINST you. i never made this about ME or MY FAMILY, i was just curious if he COULD be autistic, my niece is not the ONLY PERSON in a world of billions that is or could be autistic. so how is that me making it about me and my family??? and the reason i called you a “bully” etc is because you are. you spend all your time trying to make everyone else feel bad or youre insulting them because they disagree with you. i didnt do anything to lily, i was simply talking to her, and told her to quote me right next time.
“a few people had said that the courts are never wrong”
could you kindly point out where this happened, t.g.?
Jo-Anne on June 28, 2009 3:35 PM
It’s in the many recent Michael Jackson articles, if you want to see them you will have to read all the comments, not just the ones from or to Nancy.
“the heartless jokes made at the expense of someone that just died. molester or not, jokes about the dead are far from funny or classy”
mandee, it is comforting to see someone your age pick up on this point and show some much needed maturity amongst all the tasteless comments posted here…
tributegirl on June 28, 2009 3:40 PM are you blind? can you read AT ALL? let me tell you in capitals so perhaps you dont misunderstand how autism can fit into this case :
PEOPLE WITH AUTISM ARE MENTALLY YOUNGER THAN THEY ARE PHYSICALLY WHICH MEANS THAT IF MICHAEL JACKSON ACTED LIKE HE WAS A 12 YEAR OLD PERHAPS AUTISM COULD BE THE REASON HE WAS 51 BUT MENTALLY 12?? COULD THAT POSSIBLY MEAN THAT HE WAS MENTALLY YOUNGER THAN HE WAS PHYSICALLY? COULD THAT POSSIBLY RELATE TO MICHAEL JACKSON HANGING OUT WITH CHILDREN? so how does this not fit in with this whole entire debate? where as oj (if he did murder anyone) there would be PHYSICAL EVIDENCE, here there wasnt any. joanne, thanks, im glad not everyone on here feels the need to find nancys distasteful, mean spirited comments to be simply hilarious.
i agree that people have the right to their own opinions, but i do think that when they sink to the level where they are insulting, mean, or when they make jokes of things that arent funny, they are wrong. and i told you, i added the comment about the autism thing because you apparently are unaware of the fact that you agree with nancy no matter how mean spirited she is. i am grown up enough actually, i act my age. online, i act more mature than nancy does but i dont hear you calling her childish. if nancy wants to EXPLAIN something by dragging up old fights, so be it, but always dwelling on the fact that when i first met her i called her an idiot is pretty lame. i dont go back 6 months to a year. and it hasnt been months since the autism fight, youre wrong. and ohh you caught on to my mistake, when i said “lack of respect” i guess that makes me stupid now huh? you know what i meant, clearly. but i have already stated time and again, im not like YOU i dont spend 20 minutes going through my comment to make it PERFECT. i say what i am thinking at the exact moment i am thinking it. who cares if no one knew MJ personally? thats not what im saying, what im saying is if your husband or brother or whoever died and she snapped such a joke, would you still side with her? is it ok for her to make fun of ANYONE thats died, or is it ONLY OK when they are celebs? and so now im dumb because you posted a completely irrelevant question and i said it was a dumb thing to do? hmmm, youre starting to lose your touch, the same way nancy is. using my insults. and by the way, i was gone for about 10 days at least, so it wasnt “a few” and i never started fighting til you started acting like “an idiot”. you seem to love the drama as much as nancy does. i still dont understand how me putting out reasons why he may not be a child molester makes me fighting with someone? i still (18th time ive told you im sure) havent taken ANYONES side, except for the fact that i did agree that it is rude to make fun of the dead.
to make my last comment perfectly clear so you cant make it into something i didnt mean, when i said “and as far as i can tell, anyone that agrees with nancy and doesnt think its wrong to make jokes about the dead, probably ARE simple minded enough to find her joke hilarious.” i meant agrees with her being allowed to make jokes at the expense of someone thats passed away. not that agrees with her ALWAYS. if ANYONE else would have made the same comment, i would have said the exact same thing to them that i said about nancy. i dont care WHOS name is on a joke about the deceased, i would still have had a problem with it. thats the only reason i wasnt being nice to nancy. theres no underlying reason its not because its nancy, its because she says pretty inappropriate things about dead people.
I’m going to pose this question again, and please note that it is directed to people who do know about the OJ situation, not for people who don’t know anything about it:
Question: anyone on here think OJ Simpson killed his wife and her friend?
omg, wtf?
Probably missed lots of good points while I was scanning, but in answer to questions I saw:
tg, I answered some time after you first asked it, but I’ll answer again–I’m convinced absolutely that OJ is guilty.
nancy, I think JoAnne looks for my name much like she looks for yours, to disagree with me (often with wit) but to disagree just the same.
mandee, JA, and all the other “respect the dead” crowd: If MJ molested any child, as I believe he did, he is entitled to nothing but loathing and maybe pity because it sounds like his father was hideous and maybe turned him into a lonely, desperate man. Jokes at his expense are just one way of expressing contempt for the crime some of us think he committed. You don’t like the jokes: tough. Respond with something persuasive about how MJ is your idol instead of trying to shame the dissenters into silence. You never will because you are the boss of no one besides yourself.
Michael its so sad to have lost you, but know you’ll be able to rest you’re soul, life was just too much for you especially for this last tour coming up. I want to send you’re Family and beautiful children my deepest sympathy and love. I will surely keep them in my prayers. Now you could look down on us as the shiny star who will always be remembered for you’re vivid performances and you are the greastest dancer. You will always be remembered in our hearts and soul take care of yourself we will all be reunited as one big family one day and will all be at the same meeting place which is paradise.
Love you always XXXXXX
Maddalena Anna Camplone Hart
Anyone who thinks OJ was innocent is either stupid or a racist.
Nancy on June 28, 2009 5:18 PM that comment about making fun of the dead WASNT SOLELY FOR YOU. i fully understand that you think the universe revolves around you, but youre wrong. lily was accusing us of all picking on you (basically) so i was merely stating that yes i DID call YOU those things too and ONLY because you are picking on the dead. again, that comment was made for EVERYONE that thinks its “cool” to make fun of anyone that is dead. and if they were to do something about me commenting on michael jackson, then they should have banned you the first time you made a joke about someone that was dead. lets not go pointing fingers now, saint nancy. we all know that youre never innocent. where theres drama, youre always going to be right smack in the middle of it, probably because YOU CAUSE IT!
lily on June 28, 2009 5:45 PM i never said i liked or disliked michael jackson, but poking fun at the dead is despicable, and shows what type of disgusting people these people are. they are no better than michael jackson when they are willing to make fun of him for something that is hearsay. i have stated many times i have no opinion on whether or not he was a child molester, but if he was then youre right he is entitled to nothing. until there is proof (and my sister actually told me that the kid that accused him of molesting him came forward and admitted that he wasnt molested it was his dads ploy to get money **which he did** because he was mad at MJ) people shouldnt talk soo ill of him. and what is your opinion on the fact that nancy also made fun of that natasha actress that died by suggesting that she wasnt the only one that hit her head because she disliked someones comment to her? do you have any problem with that, or is that ok because now youve decided that me and joanne and everyone that disagrees is out to get you? i have no problem with you whatsoever, nor do i have a bad thing to say to or about you, im not being rude, im just curious if you would feel the same way if it was proven that he wasnt a child molester?
I saw your earlier question, JoAnne, but I thought you might notice the answer was already there in my post. When I said your 8:59 post disrespected opposing views, I backed that up by quoting the words you used to describe those views. “Inappropriate” in particular is another way of saying the comments in question should not have been made at all. Thats what I mean by you not wanting to allow all viewpoints to be heard. I think that is the ultimate disrespect.
Re. your second question, I’ll try to clarify. I get the impression when you see my name, you go out of your way to direct little jabs at my comments. Sometimes you quote them on other sites in a sarcastic way, like refering to the “fast and funny” thing I said about moondog. Why do you care what I think about moondog? It didn’t have anything to do with you at all. Thats all I meant.
Oh my goodness, mandee, lets not ramp up the drama any more than we have to here. I might think Jo likes picking on me but I don’t think she’s “out to get me” and I’m sure no one else here is in that psycho category.
I remember thinking that Nancy’s comment about Natasha was poorly timed, and I took issue with another comment about Adam Lambert, but now I think I was being just as judgmental as the people on this MJ site. In the time I’ve been posting here, I think I’v actually learned to be more tollerant of different viewpoints. I don’t have to agree with everyone. In fact, it would be damn boring if I did! And “poking fun at the dead” was never one of my problems. I just don’t get why this is such a major taboo except for all the religious superstition wrapped up with death. Its not like the people who’ve passed on could care less, after all, and its even less likely that the families of these celebrities are reading this website, so they can’t be hurt either.
In answer to your question about if MJ is proven not to be a child molester, I still say we have a right to think and say whatever we want right now based on the facts as we know them (and that is admittedly very sketchy). If he’s proven innocent, I’ll feel more sorry he died young. If no new info comes out, I’ll just go on not mourning his passing at all. Like tg said somewhere, only time will tell.
youre right. it would be boring if everyone agreed with one point of view. did you read my original post? other than pointing out that bullying and making fun of the dead (which could be directed at anyone) did you see me specifically speak only to nancy? and did you read my points that prove he may not be a child molester? i dont understand why no matter what i say it gets dragged to this point. everyone accuses me and joanne of attacking them because its them, but isnt it true that they are doing the same to both of us? have you saw one article recently where there isnt a nonsense fight going on when me and nancy are both posting? how about the ed mcmahon article where she made a direct comment about me and then we started fighting about that? funny all of HER COMMENTS were deleted. anyway, im not fighting with you lily, and i wasnt fighting with tg until she felt the need to make it into a fight, nor was i even fighting with nancy until all of a sudden my entire comment about MJ was ALL ABOUT HER. so i still dont see how any of this is my fault, and im willing to move on the minute any of you are 🙂
Oh, and mandee, my comment to demigod about Natasha Richardson not being the only one who hit her head, was not made to demigod because I “disliked someones comment” as you said above to lily. So get YOUR facts straight! Demigod made a comment saying some weird stuff from the show Family Guy and signed it “Peter Griffin”…that is why I said “I think Natasha Richardson is not the only one who hit her head”…and that was also BEFORE she died and I had already written my sympathies for her condition on HER article!
Nancy on June 28, 2009 7:54 PM wow you sound mad. i wonder why that is? there you go on your little rants again. ever wonder why so many of your comments get deleted? its because youre rude. you dont even deserve to be on a computer. once again i will post my first comment and show me, your highness, where i said NANCY :
mandee on June 27, 2009 3:43 PM
i wonder at what point it became ok to make fun of the dead, insult other people, pretend youre better than everyone, accuse people of things that were neither said nor done, etc? i wonder at what point tribute is going to realize that banning someone for using multiple names but not banning someone from being such an inconsiderate bully is just plain wrong? i never cared for michael jackson, never liked his music, never paid attention to his life, never listened to anything proving or disproving him being a child molester, but what im thinking is this : if you are a child molester, i highly doubt you would stop at a little grabbing. if he really was as evil as everyone is portraying him, dont you think there would have been PHYSICAL EVIDENCE??? i have never heard of a child molester not doing more than touching. its pretty convenient if you ask me, no bruises, no marks, no nothing. if MJ really is a child trapped in a grown mans body, perhaps he has autism. which would explain why he wanted to play with children (in a non sexual way of course). also, i do see controversy with the whole him sleeping in the same bed as children, but if he had some mental illness that caused him to be mentally younger than he physically is, it makes sense that he would want to sleep in a bed with what he assumed was his friends. RIP michael.
at what point did any of that say or imply i meant YOU nancy? once again, youre assuming things and making yourself look like an “@$$” and once again, in case you are as incapable of understanding as it seemed tributegirl is autism means people that are mentally younger than they are physically, michael jackson was 51 but he acted and thought like a 12 year old. do you see any similarities there? and you can go on and on about how no he wasnt autistic, but unless you were him, or his family, or his psychiatrist, you have no idea what he could have been hiding from the public eye.
are you archiving again nancy? nice to hear some habits never die.
anyways, in other tribute news, have any of you saw my sisters keeper? saddest movie EVER MADE! anyhow im off for a while, i have stuff to do.
R.I.P Michael Jackson. We have lost a Legend. God Bless.
Wow – catfight! haha
Let me guess who started this one…..hmmmmm
One word…..
DIVA! 🙂
Hi, Mike! You haven’t been here in awhile.
haha well, im usually checking on the site once in a while for the contests, reviews, and whatnot. I was also just checking in on some of my bestest friends, and I can see some things still haven’t changed! Hope everyone is doing well though!
More Bad News!! I heard Billy Mays (Oxi Clean infomercial guy) just passed away at only 50! 🙁 Seems this is just a bad week!
Why doesnt everyone just agree to disagree? Ive been here before and that seems to be the only solution!
Yeah, Mike, I read that too, apparently he hit his head while on a flight, and went to bed that night not feeling very well. Don’t know yet if that contributed to his death, but like MJ, time will tell.
t.g. why do you keep saying mandee isn’t worth your time, yet post not simply
mere replies, but volumes back to her? speaking of doesn’t make sense…
Clearly you’re frustrated, but to resort to use of the word “retarded” particularly when you work in the medical field, is in a word…inappropriate.
And speaking of such, Lily, you continuously remark on everyone’s right to their own opinion, yet when MY opinion is I find certain remarks inappropriate, you infer I should refrain from stating such. So, limitations on my opinion is your “advice,” otherwise be deemed as the “ultimate disrespect.” sure, makes sense.(???)
btw, I would suggest the “ultimate disrespect” (in my opinion, of course) be saved for such remarks as outlined in my 2nd paragraph…
You all seem to be pushing the good parent theme re MJ, so when backed into a corner do we as parents teach our kids it’s fine, or dare I say it, appropriate, to resort to calling someone “Idiot” “Retarded” or “f’ing mutt”?
As I believe t.g. stated on an another storyline, (and I’m not quoting, but the gist) children learn so much from their homes, (and I agree), wouldn’t it follow that if the parents example was to retaliate with such examples as above, their kids would not only feel comfortable to do same?
A little practice what you preach would not be amiss here…
I have to say that I didn’t read all of the comments on this article because frankly I lost interest in the bickering and constant back and forth however I do have to say one thing and my only hope is that people actually think about this. I have thought long and hard about the Michael Jackson child molestation thing and have always adored MJ for his talent and sheer iconic status of the past. Having said that I truly don’t think he molested little boys. Why? Because I have children and if anyone touched my children I can assure you I would not care about fame, status or importance of the molester, nor would I give a sh*t about money. I would want that man seriously hurt and left for dead. These parents that went after money were only hungry for a piece of his fortune. I truly don’t think their children were harmed. Do I think Michael Jackson was odd? Absolutely. He was one of the weirdest men around who thought it was normal to have sleepovers with children but I truly think he was just a weird, odd man. I don’t think he was out to harm a child nor do I think he did.
I have posted on here often enough and have read comments quite frequently, and all differences aside I have learned that most the of the regulars have kids. I ask them now to think about it. If God forbid, a high profile celebrity, touched your kid would you take a monetary settlement? If that happened in my personal life to my kids I can guarntee you my @ss would be in jail.
Well Jim, my situation would be very similar to yours except I’d be on the run from the cops! Catch me if you can! 😀
(I’m sure at least one loud mouth on here will have something negative to say about this comment…as they do about EVERY comment I make!)
Maybe Mr. Psychologist can bless us with his wise advice…oh wait, already has! LMAO.
Hi all…
I’ve been reading the back and forth conversations between Michael and Nancy!
That was entertaining!!!
Michael is a smart person and Nancy is a complete idiot!
My opinion 🙂
NO GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!!! Although you would think he would learn from his mistakes…to trust people..I totally agree with Jim I have two grown up kids…if anything happened to my kids…no money in the world would buy me off!! Michael was a little boy who never really grew up…it’s too bad they are people outhere that put their kids through this…they ought to be ashamed of themselves!!! May He rest in peace and may his music live on forever!! Hope to God that his kids will live a normal and peaceful life…May they be Blessed!!! when you have kids of your own..this is what you would want for all children…
I have to agree, Jim, and Carmie re your sentiments as to how a parent would react should they really believe their child suffered as such at the hands of a molester…
completely. if anyone molested my kid, you wouldnt even find their body. money wouldnt solve anything. .
also, no one cares or tries to defend MJ when shes making fun of him, he was someones brother, son and father. if she doesnt need to have respect for others, why do i?
I NEVER said I “allowed” ANYONE to abuse my kids and FYI, he’s been out of their lives for a long time because “I” fought for them, as ANY loving mother would in the same situation, in family court.
I think Steve needs to grow up,he is talking about Michael in such a bad way but he shouldn’t throw stones.
From day 1 I felt Michael was innocent when it came to molesting the kids, it was pretty obvious it was a quick money scheme for the young boys father, I sure hope the father realizes what the has done to his son for a quick buck.
Michael was a good man, his problems I think started with his upbringing by his father, think how you would be if you had the kind of life that his dad gave him.
Michael just never grew up, he wanted a perfect world, he wanted everyone to love and be happy, when he saw that people weren’t happy he was not happy.
Michael was a boy at heart,but the Media just through that to the scavengers and for their minutes of famed destroyed Michael
RIP Michael
You are finally happy
And with another work, I sure hope Debbie does not get those kids, it’s all about the money.
From day 1 I felt Michael was innocent when it came to molesting the kids, it was pretty obvious it was a quick money scheme for the young boys father, I sure hope the father realizes what the has done to his son for a quick buck.
Michael was a good man, his problems I think started with his upbringing by his father, think how you would be if you had the kind of life that his dad gave him.
Michael just never grew up, he wanted a perfect world, he wanted everyone to love and be happy, when he saw that people weren’t happy he was not happy.
Michael was a boy at heart,but the Media just through that to the scavengers and for their minutes of famed destroyed Michael
RIP Michael
You are finally happy
And with another work, I sure hope Debbie does not get those kids, it’s all about the money.
From day 1 I felt Michael was innocent when it came to molesting the kids, it was pretty obvious it was a quick money scheme for the young boys father, I sure hope the father realizes what the has done to his son for a quick buck.
Some of his problems started when he was charged for something he did not do, think how you would be if you had the kind of life Michael had.
Michael just never grew up, he wanted a perfect world, he wanted everyone to love and be happy, when he saw that people weren’t happy he was not happy.
Michael was a boy at heart,but the Media just through that to the scavengers and for their minutes of famed destroyed Michael
RIP Michael
You are finally happy
And with another work, I sure hope Debbie does not get those kids, it’s all about the money.
ann, mary and anna, you each posted almost totally identical comments, all within 3 minutes of each other. Someone’s using multi names AGAIN???
well said steve,yours was the only comment that actually made sense.but lets just leave it coz everyone reaps only what they sow.
Michael though u r dead ur music will live in everyone’s heart today,tomorrow and always.u were a very talented person and u could have made better use of ur life with it.
good points…yet again…mandee
Hahahaha, TOTALLY agree lily and Tributegirl! 😀
read it, mandee, thanks…and agree 100 percent…
Jim on June 29, 2009 9:14 AM
You don’t have to be a parent to understand where you’re coming from.
I think that all of you are horrible. Michael i am on your side. They should not blame the unknown. I for one am a HUGE fan of Michael Jackson and i LOVE his music. I do not believe he would touch a child nor, do anything to one, he has children you would think if he was really like that and was dumb enough not saying that he is because i dont believe that he is or that he did it, that he would have done it to his own, Michael was not that bad looking of a guy, he could have gotten a woman if he needed so. I think it is wrong to judge, i understand opinions because i obvisouly have my own. But fighting over a web site after the KING OF POP just died is wrong and people just need to understand it’s a part of life. Get over it. This is all immature.